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On May 21 2010 12:54 CorporalClegg1 wrote:
Also, we do live in a "silent" universe. If there are truly that many alien races out there, then we probably would have heard them by now. Most every process releases some form of electromagnetic radiation. We have yet to detect an organized process that has definite alien orgins whether it be radio signals or light
What you're getting wrong here is that the universe is huge so the probability of having other intelligent races is huge. However, what our race can see with our telescopes is only a very tiny portion of it. The probability of finding intelligent life in this tiny portion of the universe is close to zero.
Right now our best bet of making contact with an alien race is not we finding them but they having far superior technologies so they can find us. Or wait till our technology becomes advanced enough so we can explore a larger part of space.
Hell, our technology is so pathetic at the moment that we haven't left the solar system yet (AFAIK voyager will leave the solar system in a few years time, so then we will have finally visited outer space)
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^ Yea
Except its not just our solar system, heck even if we could explore the entire milky way galaxy, its still a very very tiny portion of the universe. The universe is infinitely huge your mind could not handle.
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On May 21 2010 18:17 jstar wrote:
^ Yea
Except its not just our solar system, heck even if we could explore the entire milky way galaxy, its still a very very tiny portion of the universe. The universe is infinitely huge your mind could not handle.
Well said.
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On May 21 2010 16:45 Stuslegend wrote:
amazing read, i remember watching Stephen hawkins documentary "into the universe"
he says something like, if there really were aliens out there, it might be better to not confront them right away as they may be a highly superior race and just mine our planet for its resources or w/e
This is interesting.
Imagine there's a highly superior race, more advanced than Protoss, which is very likely btw, as there are billions and trillions of stars, and each with their own planets.
They find our planet, and since meeting another intelligent race is nothing new to them, they just destroy us and take the planets resources then leave. All of this could very well be done in a day.
On the other hand, it's possible they've seen our planet and know that it's dieing anyways (lol), they just leave us the hell alone and not bother, and "farm" all the other planets around us, which could also be another theory why it's so hard for us to find other planet with life.
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Another theory is that any intelligent civilization that manages to reach a certain level of technological & biological evolution will inevitable destroy itself one way or another before they'd reach the point where they could realistically travel over far distances in space. I like this theory, it brings calm to my mind.
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On May 21 2010 19:59 hifriend wrote:
Another theory is that any intelligent civilization that manages to reach a certain level of technological & biological evolution will inevitable destroy itself one way or another before they'd reach the point where they could realistically travel over far distances in space. I like this theory, it brings calm to my mind.
This is very likely as well (look at us as an example), and was also mentioned on Stephen Hawking's video. However, there are bound to be some that manages to cross that point.
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On May 21 2010 20:46 jstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 19:59 hifriend wrote:
Another theory is that any intelligent civilization that manages to reach a certain level of technological & biological evolution will inevitable destroy itself one way or another before they'd reach the point where they could realistically travel over far distances in space. I like this theory, it brings calm to my mind. This is very likely as well (look at us as an example), and was also mentioned on Stephen Hawking's video. However, there are bound to be some that manages to cross that point.
Perhaps the alien civilizations out there simply haven't had the time to evolve to the point where space travel is possible. It took 4.5 billion years to get where we are now here on Earth, why should it be much different any other place in the Universe(That is assuming other solar systems are around the same age as our own, which I admit I have no idea about).
Or perhaps it is just technologically impossible to travel with the speeds necessary to get anywhere in the Universe because of the vast distances. Probably more likely imo...
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I don't think that we'll ever be (or any race, for that matter) technologically advanced enough where speed itself is the determining factor in these types of situations.
If it's theoretically impossible to go faster than the speed of light, and going at the speed of light means 20+ years to get to the nearest planet...
it just wouldn't be possible to have those sci-fi like colonies on multiple planets. The colonies wouldn't be in any real contact with eachother, and would drift apart significantly. Hell, they'd probably eventually start to physically evolve to better suit their lifestyle on that planet, since there's bound to be differences. Even slightly less or more gravity would, I imagine, impact things greatly.
For any sort of vast space travel to exist, I would think that the proper direction to go would be that whole 'wormwhole' business.
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Isn't it also possible that we might be the most technologically advanced species in this universe? It might be sad and narcissistic, but it's a possibility.
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