EPTPossible new habitable planet - Page 7
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goswser
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On May 21 2010 09:13 kerpal wrote: I find it interesting that people would rather believe that everything we know is created by aliens than by God... I don't. Clearly, life in the universe is possible. Clearly, advancing technology at an exponential rate is possible. I can plainly understand why logically thinking people feel that these two facts and logical deductions hold more weight then a book of miracles. | ||
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hellobye
Canada82 Posts
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Bub
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
On May 21 2010 12:04 hellobye wrote: i heard your mom was an inhabitable planet. i just had to yo momma's so fat that astronomers think she is a habitable planet? | ||
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The_Voidless
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On May 21 2010 12:26 meegrean wrote: yo momma's so fat that astronomers think she is a habitable planet? Dont even start derailing this thread -_- I don't understand how people denied that there was extraterrestrial life or other habitable planets for so long... In a giant universe it wouldn't make sense for only 1 planet to have life on it. | ||
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TheOvermind77
United States923 Posts
On May 21 2010 12:33 GreEny K wrote: Dont even start derailing this thread -_- I don't understand how people denied that there was extraterrestrial life or other habitable planets for so long... In a giant universe it wouldn't make sense for only 1 planet to have life on it. Up until really the 1940's did we really start understanding the concept of a "galaxy". Before that, we thought they were just "fuzzy nebulae". And the sky was full of quite a lot of them... | ||
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CorporalClegg1
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On May 21 2010 09:36 MamiyaOtaru wrote: What the hell is this. I mean look what it's saying. Earth formed 10 billion years after the universe, so obviously the universe needed 10 billion years to create the materials needed for Earth. And after 10 billion years, Earth formed! Wow it happened as soon as it was possible - it are miracle! This is so incredibly dumb. It should read Earth formed 10 billion years after the universe, so obviously the universe needed *AT LEAST* 10 billion years to create the materials needed for earth. Earth could have formed billions of years after all the necessary elements were formed. The formation of Earth puts an upper end on when all those elements were around in sufficient qualities, it doesn't define THE moment when it became possible. It's such horrible circular reasoning. "Earth formed then, so that was when Earth became possible, and since Earth was formed right at that moment, it's obviously miraculous!" Just leave out the middle clause and it reads "Earth formed when Earth formed". Wow what an incredible coincidence I am personally not religious and have no place for belief in miracles or the paranormal but if you honestly believe that by our current reasoning that the odds of life forming is a realistic, then your flat out wrong. We can't currently explain this phenomena with science. Life as we know breaks a lot of fundamental rules and it will be a long time before we can explain how intelligent minds like our own formed from the chaotic universe we live in. On May 21 2010 12:33 GreEny K wrote: Dont even start derailing this thread -_- I don't understand how people denied that there was extraterrestrial life or other habitable planets for so long... In a giant universe it wouldn't make sense for only 1 planet to have life on it. Its not unfair to assume we are the only intelligent species. Many astronomers have demonstrated that there is only one sentient race in the universe via the drake equation and other mathematical formulas. This is no where near damning evidence, but like i said its not unheard of to believe. Also, we do live in a "silent" universe. If there are truly that many alien races out there, then we probably would have heard them by now. Most every process releases some form of electromagnetic radiation. We have yet to detect an organized process that has definite alien orgins whether it be radio signals or light | ||
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VorcePA
United States1102 Posts
On May 21 2010 12:12 Bub wrote: Well that's cool but 2x gravity =/ I'd rather be able to float. the moon will do for me and it is MUCH closer. Yeah. I'd rather have the 2x gravity. Spend 6 months to a year on that planet, come back to Earth and bam! you're a superhuman. :D | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
If we're looking for another place to move to in case anything happens to Earth, then distance may be a problem....because 20 light years is pretty far away...hah.... but yeah, it would be interesting to see what 2x gravity would feel like to us. | ||
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Sadist
United States7298 Posts
On May 21 2010 12:54 CorporalClegg1 wrote: I am personally not religious and have no place for belief in miracles or the paranormal but if you honestly believe that by our current reasoning that the odds of life forming is a realistic, then your flat out wrong. We can't currently explain this phenomena with science. Life as we know breaks a lot of fundamental rules and it will be a long time before we can explain how intelligent minds like our own formed from the chaotic universe we live in. Its not unfair to assume we are the only intelligent species. Many astronomers have demonstrated that there is only one sentient race in the universe via the drake equation and other mathematical formulas. This is no where near damning evidence, but like i said its not unheard of to believe. Also, we do live in a "silent" universe. If there are truly that many alien races out there, then we probably would have heard them by now. Most every process releases some form of electromagnetic radiation. We have yet to detect an organized process that has definite alien orgins whether it be radio signals or light its my understanding that the drake equation is pretty much worthless and not science at all. Theres too many variables that are unknown and are just guessed at with 0 evidence at all. | ||
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VorcePA
United States1102 Posts
On May 21 2010 13:03 blahman3344 wrote: Hmm its interesting that there could be so many more planets like this in the universe. If we're looking for another place to move to in case anything happens to Earth, then distance may be a problem....because 20 light years is pretty far away...hah.... but yeah, it would be interesting to see what 2x gravity would feel like to us. To put it in to perspective, astronomers estimate that there's between 200 and 400 billion (400,000,000,000) stars in the milky way galaxy. If you can assume a low "average" number of planets per star, say... 2.5 for nice easy numbers (have to take in to account stars with 0 planets and binary/tertiary systems that may share planets), that means there's between 500 billion and 1 trillion planets in our galaxy. The estimated number of planets capable of supporting life is less than 2%. Let's say it's 1%, for easy, conservative estimates. That means, in the milky way alone, there's around 5 to 10 billion planets capable of supporting human life on them. If we ever achieve faster than light travel, overpopulation will never be an issue again. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On May 21 2010 12:54 CorporalClegg1 wrote: Its not unfair to assume we are the only intelligent species. Many astronomers have demonstrated that there is only one sentient race in the universe via the drake equation and other mathematical formulas. rofl what 1. Drake's own numbers gave an estimate of 10 intelligent species in our galaxy 2. The numbers to be plugged into the equation are fuzzy best guesses and it matters little what the result is anyway. | ||
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Wi)nD
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Footymd
Canada105 Posts
This was proven by the LHC, A normal hadron last roughly 1 second, but while travailing in the LHC it last upwards of 30 seconds. Time in fact moves slower while you are close to a big mass. It was theorized that if we had a capable ship that could travel the speed of light and was able to orbit the black hole that's at the center of the milky way, 1 year on earth would be 6 months on the ship. Also random note that if you travel faster or at the speed of light, you wouldn't be able to be seen since our eyes are only able to pick up refractions of light and since your moving so fast light is unable to refract against you. I am trying to find the article i read, link soon. | ||
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Stuslegend
Canada168 Posts
he says something like, if there really were aliens out there, it might be better to not confront them right away as they may be a highly superior race and just mine our planet for its resources or w/e | ||
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FreshVegetables
Finland513 Posts
On May 21 2010 12:02 keV. wrote: I don't. Clearly, life in the universe is possible. Clearly, advancing technology at an exponential rate is possible. I can plainly understand why logically thinking people feel that these two facts and logical deductions hold more weight then a book of miracles. I have to agree with this. The bible was created to control people and somehow it has managed to exist up until today, dunno how. Believing in goods is so 1000 years ago seriously. Anyways, yeah i've also watched the Stephen Hawkings documentary series, it was absolutely stunning to watch it in HD 720p. Especially the episode about Time Travelling was really an eye opener for me, I never thought it could be possible. Hawking uses such good every day examples of everything that it's really easy for almost anyone to understand how things work etc. Hell, if you're interested of stuff like this I suggest you watch these right away. Because this is some epic shit. | ||
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Geo.Rion
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 intresting article nontheless | ||
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