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LONDON - An ash cloud from Iceland's spewing volcano halted air traffic across a wide swathe of Europe on Thursday, grounding planes on a scale unseen since the 2001 terror attacks as authorities stopped all flights over Britain, Ireland and the Nordic countries. Thousand of flights were canceled, stranding tens of thousands of passengers, and officials said it was not clear when it would be safe enough to fly again.
In a sobering comment, one scientist in Iceland said the ejection of volcanic ash — and therefore possible disruptions in air travel — could continue for days or even weeks.
With the cloud drifting south and east across Britain, the country's air traffic service banned all non-emergency flights until at least 7 a.m. (2 a.m. EDT) Friday. The move shut down London's five major airports including Heathrow, a major trans-Atlantic hub that handles over 1,200 flights and 180,000 passengers per day.
Irish authorities closed their air space for at least eight hours, and aviation authorities in Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland took similar precautions. In France, the aviation authority said Paris' main airport and nearly two dozen others would be closing due to the volcanic ash.
Airlines in the United States were canceling some flights to Europe and delaying others. In Washington, the Federal Aviation Administration said it was working with airlines to try to reroute some flights around the massive ash cloud. Flights from Asia, Africa and the Middle East to Heathrow and other top European hubs were also put on hold.
'Significant threat' The volcano was sending up smoke and ash that posed "a significant safety threat to aircraft," Britain's National Air Traffic Service said, as visibility is compromised and microscopic debris can get sucked into airplane engines, causing them to shut down.
It was not the first time air traffic has been halted by a volcano, but such widespread disruption has not been seen the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks. "There hasn't been a bigger one," said William Voss, president of the U.S.-based Flight Safety Foundation, who praised aviation authorities and Eurocontrol, the European air traffic control organization, for closing down airspace. "This has prevented airliners wondering about, with their engines flaming out along the way."
At Heathrow, passengers milled around, looking at closed check-in desks and gazing up at departure boards listing rows of cancellations.
"It's so ridiculous it is almost amusing," said Cambridge University researcher Rachel Baker, 23, who had planned to meet her American boyfriend in Boston but got no farther than Heathrow.
"I just wish I was on a beach in Mexico," said Ann Cochrane, 58, of Toronto, a passenger stranded in Glasgow.
The National Air Traffic Service said Britain had not halted all flights in its space in living memory, although most flights were grounded after Sept. 11. Heathrow was also closed by fog for two days in 1952.
"The risk to flights depends on a combination of factors — namely whether the volcano keeps behaving the way it has and the weather patterns. We're sitting in the north wind at the moment," he added.
Norway's King Harald V and Queen Sonja — who had planned to fly Thursday to Copenhagen for the Danish queen's 70th birthday — were looking to take a "car, boat or train" after Norway shut its airspace.
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36543312/ns/world_news-europe/
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Vatican City State2594 Posts
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Well at least they are taking appropriate action, and not allowing people to fly around, and get hurt.
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being stuck at heathrow is a nightmare. It happened to me when the BA people went on strike. I had to stay the night there before I could get a hotel then was stuck in London for 3 days. I feel sorry for anyone who has to do that.......i doubt they get re-embersed by the airlines since it isnt their fault so you get SOL and stuck in London paying for a hotel + food.
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Swedish news papers are quoting an "expert" saying that this might go on for months or possibly years. That would be pretty huge. Sounds like a worst case scenario though.
I'm flying home to Sweden from Norway in less than two weeks. Hopefully the winds will change, I think winds coming from the south is the most common on Iceland.
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It's quite interesting that this event seems to make some people hate Iceland even more, hopefully this won't be long, but you never know with nature.
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Another blow to the airline industry which is already in ruins.
On the positive side all the airline workers that wanted to strike should strike now. British Airways cabin crew where are you now? Obviously start your dumb strike when everything is ok again.
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On April 16 2010 04:31 Sazchu wrote: It's quite interesting that this event seems to make some people hate Iceland even more, hopefully this won't be long, but you never know with nature.
Who hates Iceland? Some brits who lost their money to few of your bankers perhaps. Only <3 from other countries.
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On April 16 2010 03:33 Gigaudas wrote: Swedish news papers are quoting an "expert" saying that this might go on for months or possibly years. That would be pretty huge. Sounds like a worst case scenario though.
I'm flying home to Sweden from Norway in less than two weeks. Hopefully the winds will change, I think winds coming from the south is the most common on Iceland. Swedish newspapers all suck, never, and i mean nevereverever take what they write too seriously.
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This volcano has not erupted since the 18th century. That time the eruption lasted one and a half year and the 4 following summers were notably colder then usual.
Prepare for the might of nature and taking the boat to America
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On April 16 2010 05:07 Stenstyren wrote:This volcano has not erupted since the 18th century. That time the eruption lasted one and a half year and the 4 following summers were notably colder then usual. Prepare for the might of nature and taking the boat to America It will spread to USA as well if it goes on for a longer period of time.
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On April 16 2010 04:53 panzerbat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2010 03:33 Gigaudas wrote: Swedish news papers are quoting an "expert" saying that this might go on for months or possibly years. That would be pretty huge. Sounds like a worst case scenario though.
I'm flying home to Sweden from Norway in less than two weeks. Hopefully the winds will change, I think winds coming from the south is the most common on Iceland. Swedish newspapers all suck, never, and i mean nevereverever take what they write too seriously.
Well, the possibility of a long erruptions seems very real.
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Just spoke to my 2v2 partner, he works as airport security on Arlanda (big airport in sweden, mkay), and sice no flights can leave or land, all they do is drink coffe right now. I wan't his job.
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On April 16 2010 04:53 panzerbat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2010 03:33 Gigaudas wrote: Swedish news papers are quoting an "expert" saying that this might go on for months or possibly years. That would be pretty huge. Sounds like a worst case scenario though.
I'm flying home to Sweden from Norway in less than two weeks. Hopefully the winds will change, I think winds coming from the south is the most common on Iceland. Swedish newspapers all suck, never, and i mean nevereverever take what they write too seriously.
Yeah, if it's published on "Aftonbladet" and such newspapers, the info should be taken with a grain of salt But it's worth noticing though...it's a pretty major thing after all. With all airports shut down and stuff.
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On April 16 2010 03:33 Gigaudas wrote: Swedish news papers are quoting an "expert" saying that this might go on for months or possibly years. That would be pretty huge. Sounds like a worst case scenario though.
I'm flying home to Sweden from Norway in less than two weeks. Hopefully the winds will change, I think winds coming from the south is the most common on Iceland. Just take a bus.
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On April 16 2010 06:44 Zexion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2010 04:53 panzerbat wrote:On April 16 2010 03:33 Gigaudas wrote: Swedish news papers are quoting an "expert" saying that this might go on for months or possibly years. That would be pretty huge. Sounds like a worst case scenario though.
I'm flying home to Sweden from Norway in less than two weeks. Hopefully the winds will change, I think winds coming from the south is the most common on Iceland. Swedish newspapers all suck, never, and i mean nevereverever take what they write too seriously. Yeah, if it's published on "Aftonbladet" and such newspapers, the info should be taken with a grain of salt  But it's worth noticing though...it's a pretty major thing after all. With all airports shut down and stuff. Never take aftonhoran seriously.
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Earthquakes here there and everywhere and now this, tap on wood time.
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My girlfriend was supposed to come home tomorrow from finland -_- She's gonna be delayed at least two days now.. fuck that
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On April 16 2010 06:55 Narwhal wrote: Earthquakes here there and everywhere and now this, tap on wood time. There havent been any more earthquakes than usual, It's just that they quake closer to densly civilized areas, thus it's newsworthy.
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On April 16 2010 07:01 panzerbat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2010 06:55 Narwhal wrote: Earthquakes here there and everywhere and now this, tap on wood time. There havent been any more earthquakes than usual, It's just that they quake closer to densly civilized areas, thus it's newsworthy.
And we all know not earthquakes and vulcano's are gonna kill us. It's going to be the ants.
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This is really unfortunate since I was set to leave tomorrow to fly into germany where I was starting 3 months of back packing. Kinda being really annoying.
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This is real fucked, was flying to London in 8 hours...
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Yeah it's impossible to say how long this will go on. I don't think the airlines will take any risks until the ash is almost 100% dissolved, which theoretically could take a damn long while in a worst-case scenario.
very crazy stuff
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On April 16 2010 06:55 Narwhal wrote: Earthquakes here there and everywhere and now this, tap on wood time.
As stated before, the number of earthquakes is actually usual for the time of the year we are in right now. The number of earthquakes have been in range as stated by the one post above and the USGS.
This is unbelievable, the amount of "chaos" this will cause is unbelievable, passengers are probably going to be grumpy since they have wait for some time. The clearing of this and getting back on schedule will take a lot of time for airlines who operate across Europe.
Since this is causing so much smoke, could an explosion be possible (although i hope not)?
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On April 16 2010 08:15 Housemd wrote: Since this is causing so much smoke, could an explosion be possible (although i hope not)?
Care to elaborate on as to why that would happen?
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On April 16 2010 08:17 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2010 08:15 Housemd wrote: Since this is causing so much smoke, could an explosion be possible (although i hope not)? Care to elaborate on as to why that would happen?
In the thread it says spewing volcano, so would this indicate that the volcano is active and could see an eruption. Also, there was ash which usually indicates an explosion waiting to happen in my knowledge.
I really am not an expert at volcanoes so this question might seem idiotic.
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On April 16 2010 08:26 Housemd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2010 08:17 Foucault wrote:On April 16 2010 08:15 Housemd wrote: Since this is causing so much smoke, could an explosion be possible (although i hope not)? Care to elaborate on as to why that would happen? In the thread it says spewing volcano, so would this indicate that the volcano is active and could see an eruption. Also, there was ash which usually indicates an explosion waiting to happen in my knowledge. I really am not an expert at volcanoes so this question might seem idiotic.
Oh ok I misunderstood. I thought for some reason that you meant that the ash flying around could explode lol
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On April 16 2010 08:28 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2010 08:26 Housemd wrote:On April 16 2010 08:17 Foucault wrote:On April 16 2010 08:15 Housemd wrote: Since this is causing so much smoke, could an explosion be possible (although i hope not)? Care to elaborate on as to why that would happen? In the thread it says spewing volcano, so would this indicate that the volcano is active and could see an eruption. Also, there was ash which usually indicates an explosion waiting to happen in my knowledge. I really am not an expert at volcanoes so this question might seem idiotic. Oh ok I misunderstood. I thought for some reason that you meant that the ash flying around could explode lol
With all due respect thats highly unlikely...lol. It reminds me of a show i watched which was like "the fire's shooting at us!!!!" lol
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On April 16 2010 07:14 s[O]rry wrote: This is really unfortunate since I was set to leave tomorrow to fly into germany where I was starting 3 months of back packing. Kinda being really annoying. Im not sure but i dont think your flight will be affected. It is not a problem in southern and mid Germany (yet) and most trans atlantic flights to e.g. Frankfurt will at worst have to change their route. Also look forward to spectacular sunsets!
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Aw, shit, I hope this doesnt affect my daily life. Sucks for all the people flying somewhere.
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Volcanic eruptions in Iceland? No...
Sucks for all the people living in Europe though. Hopefully the ash clears and you guys can fly safely.
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On April 16 2010 14:50 Fosh wrote: Aw, shit, I hope this doesnt affect my daily life. Sucks for all the people flying somewhere. Unless you're a pilot I wouldnt worry to much.  Although, my cousin currently living in Oslo said that her asthma had been worse than usual last night, and she thought it was due to the volcanic ash.
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On April 16 2010 06:56 Badjas wrote: My girlfriend was supposed to come home tomorrow from finland -_- She's gonna be delayed at least two days now.. fuck that
At least saturday 17th (14:00 cet or 15:00 local time) will be next time Finland checks airspace again.
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I think Iceland got it wrong, we wanted CASH not ASH. Geez.
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![[image loading]](http://gickr.com/results4/anim_def90236-9d9e-00a4-296c-a455591c6a2f.gif)
08:00, 14:00, 20:00 CET (or local Finland time can be seen on pic) predictions how it moves.
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On April 16 2010 17:34 Too_MuchZerg wrote:![[image loading]](http://gickr.com/results4/anim_def90236-9d9e-00a4-296c-a455591c6a2f.gif) 08:00, 14:00, 20:00 CET (or local Finland time can be seen on pic) predictions how it moves. Is it for today?:D According to it, the ashcloud should be right over me.:D
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Sky is grey here, damn. Europe needs tough leader like G.W Bush, so Iceland would pay for their mistakes !!
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On April 16 2010 18:31 kroko wrote: Sky is grey here, damn. Europe needs tough leader like G.W Bush, so Iceland would pay for their mistakes !! You sure thats not regular clouds?:D Sky is blue here, down in southern sweden.
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If this thing messes with our recent spree of amazing weather I will not be happy.
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On April 16 2010 18:58 Reason wrote: If this thing messes with our recent spree of amazing weather I will not be happy. Goddam Iceland. First they steal our money, Now they steal our sunshine!
Let's just nuke them and be done with it.
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On April 16 2010 18:31 kroko wrote: Sky is grey here, damn. Europe needs tough leader like G.W Bush, so Iceland would pay for their mistakes !!
Ilkka Kanerva for instance?
Iceland has had a lot to endure the last years, and now many of them can't send their children to school and have to protect their children from snowing ash. Experts ask them to basically dress children with protective suits and masks, not many will have that available, or be able to buy it anytime soon.
Just here in Norway, even emergency flights are cancelled, meaning you will be driven in an ambulance to wherever you have to go in an emergency. We hardly have an infrastructure good enough to handle even our daily commuting (strange, I know), so this is a disaster waiting to happen.
Cut off your hand? Get ready for a 460km roadtrip. Short translation: Many patients are taken by air from Bergen to Oslo for emergency treatments, now they have to drive a route that's 460 km long and funny enough also dependant on weather (good thing this did not happen during winter).
edit: ESA: image of volcanic ash cloud (UK)
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wow
"tuhkapilvi" is such a bad ass word! finnish is the best language in the world
almost as awesome as "tulimyrsky"
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On April 16 2010 02:47 Sadist wrote: being stuck at heathrow is a nightmare. It happened to me when the BA people went on strike. I had to stay the night there before I could get a hotel then was stuck in London for 3 days. I feel sorry for anyone who has to do that.......i doubt they get re-embersed by the airlines since it isnt their fault so you get SOL and stuck in London paying for a hotel + food.
I know that at least the Norwegian companies are reimbursing the passengers. They also cover any hotel-costs as a result of the cancellations. Personally I think its a little too nice to reimburse the hotel costs. As you say, its not their fault, so they should not be held responsible.
On April 16 2010 05:22 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2010 05:07 Stenstyren wrote:This volcano has not erupted since the 18th century. That time the eruption lasted one and a half year and the 4 following summers were notably colder then usual. Prepare for the might of nature and taking the boat to America It will spread to USA as well if it goes on for a longer period of time.
To the USA? Where did you get this informaton? It just doesn't sound likely as the winds across the Atlantic pretty much always are westerly.
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Zurich15328 Posts
Phew just got home yesterday. Today all German airports are shut down. Close one.
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On April 16 2010 17:34 Too_MuchZerg wrote:![[image loading]](http://gickr.com/results4/anim_def90236-9d9e-00a4-296c-a455591c6a2f.gif) 08:00, 14:00, 20:00 CET (or local Finland time can be seen on pic) predictions how it moves.
LOLZ @ Iceland stood over us spewing danger-gas.
It's over me too, but the sky is blue, apparently it's too high up in the atmosphere to see, but of course affects high altitude planes.
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The sky is blue here as well, in southern Sweden and I think the clouds are just regular clouds and not ash. It's also very sunny, and it has been so all day, but it's not really warm because of the cold winds
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It isn't supposed the sky to just go gray or black. It's that fine volcanic ash (very small particles) that can hurt airplane's engine. Concentration is largely reduced with the distance it travels. Hope it gets dispersed soon and flight patterns can get back to normal.
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Darn, I was kinda hoping for big, grey clouds of ash. Had prepared this little act where I run around screaming that the world is at an end.
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Noticeable smell of ash in Northern Scotland, a film of it covered our car this morning. Probably won't get back down to the mainland for a few days now...
Last time the problems persisted for 2 years...
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On April 16 2010 08:00 NeoScout wrote: 2012
amen to that, brother
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On April 16 2010 22:06 bdams19 wrote: ITS COMIN RIGHT FOR US!! Duck and cover. Preferably under a blanket.
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On April 16 2010 17:34 Too_MuchZerg wrote:![[image loading]](http://gickr.com/results4/anim_def90236-9d9e-00a4-296c-a455591c6a2f.gif) 08:00, 14:00, 20:00 CET (or local Finland time can be seen on pic) predictions how it moves. Blessed  Though flights to Europe are still grounded, trans-Atlantic flights are OK, so seems Ferries are doing their best business ever
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I work for one of european airlines, all our flights until tomorrow 12:00 GMT has been cancelled, and we're told to be ready to resume duties after this time. Until then it's "Volcano Days Off" for us...
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On April 16 2010 19:00 humblegar wrote: Iceland has had a lot to endure the last years, and now many of them can't send their children to school and have to protect their children from snowing ash. Experts ask them to basically dress children with protective suits and masks, not many will have that available, or be able to buy it anytime soon.
Nevermind, apparantly this is true! Tho it doesn't apply to me since I live up north 
http://mbl.is/mm/frettir/sjonvarp/48358/
Watch this clip, this is during THE DAY.
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I don't even want to think about what happens if this continues for years oO...
Strange, I just heard an airplane here. I guess not all planes are forbidden to fly in Sweden yet? Or maybe it's just international flights that are cancelled?
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On April 16 2010 23:48 MagisterMan wrote: I don't even want to think about what happens if this continues for years oO...
Stranges, I just heard an airplane here, guess not all planes are forbidden to fly in Sweden yet? From what I heard, only jetplanes are grounded, since the dust more or less fucks up the jet engines, but propellers are still safe. At least that's what I think.
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On April 16 2010 18:31 kroko wrote: Sky is grey here, damn. Europe needs tough leader like G.W Bush, so Iceland would pay for their mistakes !! fuckin goddamn right those frosty fucks and their volcano WMDs cant harm you if you nuke them first USA USA USA
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Small propeller aircrafts are ok to fly, at least in UK, for the time being. Big passenger aircrafts seem to be grounded just like everything else.
Jet engines could get damaged by ash inflight coz of air intake, and stop working, which is never good at 40k feet.
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For those living curently in the path of the ash- please remember only the finest (read: microscopic) ash will make it to the ground, and this is the most dangerous for your long term health. Its like breathing in small shards of glass. To all my european brethren- wear breathing masks until SIX MONTHS after the volcano stops spewing. Hope all turns out well.
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Wasn't you guys told to hide under desks in case of a nuclear attack? I guess we will be properly adviced by our health services.
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On April 17 2010 00:11 dranjam wrote: Small propeller aircrafts are ok to fly, at least in UK, for the time being. Big passenger aircrafts seem to be grounded just like everything else.
Jet engines could get damaged by ash inflight coz of air intake, and stop working, which is never good at 40k feet.
Better at 40 000 feet than at a 100 feet! 
Here in Norway even small props are forbidden to fly. However the government opened for certain medevac flights and passenger flights in certain areas (few routes up north).
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As told not only the ash goes into jet's engines, but the small fiber-like glass in the ash will fuck up the windshield so you can't see outside after riding through this.
It's like sandpaper.
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On April 17 2010 00:33 Sean.G wrote:Better at 40 000 feet than at a 100 feet!  I can see pros and cons to both options .
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On April 16 2010 23:48 MagisterMan wrote: I don't even want to think about what happens if this continues for years oO...
Strange, I just heard an airplane here. I guess not all planes are forbidden to fly in Sweden yet? Or maybe it's just international flights that are cancelled?
Propeller planes are allowed to fly.
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Lol, I'm in Taiwan right now, was scheduled to go back to France tomorrow, not sure how it'll work out. Not that I mind some paid vacations anyway, pandas here I come. ^_^
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On April 17 2010 00:33 Sean.G wrote:
Here in Norway even small props are forbidden to fly. However the government opened for certain medevac flights and passenger flights in certain areas (few routes up north). Good, then our norwegian terran-players can still go the MnMnM-route!:D
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Freaky shit indeed. Looks awesome though.
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Estonia's airspace still closed until tomorrow. But they say a new wave may appear on Sunday. Doesn't affect me, I live in my cellar..
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Like an hour after washing my car i found little pieces of Eyjafjallajökull (ash) on it. Nifty. Greetings to Iceland.
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One of my professors is trapped in Europe. Unfortunately, he can just email the assignments and notes to us.
The internet has turned on me.
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My parents are in europe. Now I have to go through who knows how many more days of making my own meals.
fuck you mother earth
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![[image loading]](http://gickr.com/results4/anim_333c13d1-06d9-f704-4532-4dd4e4aedf6e.gif) Update Times are Friday (today) 14:00 cet, 20:00 cet then Saturday 02:00 cet and 08:00 cet (24h system) Finnish airspace is closed at least to sunday 14:00 cet.
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On April 17 2010 03:36 Ian Ian Ian wrote: My parents are in europe. Now I have to go through who knows how many more days of making my own meals.
fuck you mother earth
LOL
Well anyways, you guys laughed at me when I said the quakes weren't a coincidence, you laughed at me when I said that volcanic eruptions would follow (yellowstone is next) but as the shadow once again crawls across our world, and the stench of terror dreads on a bitter wind, you people pray for strength and guidance. You should pray for the mercy of a swift death.
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On April 17 2010 03:36 Ian Ian Ian wrote: My parents are in europe. Now I have to go through who knows how many more days of making my own meals.
fuck you mother earth Dude, Burger King ftw. Just mail the receipt to the Icelandic government.
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On April 17 2010 05:09 panzerbat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2010 03:36 Ian Ian Ian wrote: My parents are in europe. Now I have to go through who knows how many more days of making my own meals.
fuck you mother earth Dude, Burger King ftw. Just mail the receipt to the Icelandic government.
I think it would be better to mail the receipt to mother nature as the Icelandic government has nothing to do with his parents being (stuck) in Europe :s
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On April 17 2010 05:18 Sazchu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2010 05:09 panzerbat wrote:On April 17 2010 03:36 Ian Ian Ian wrote: My parents are in europe. Now I have to go through who knows how many more days of making my own meals.
fuck you mother earth Dude, Burger King ftw. Just mail the receipt to the Icelandic government. I think it would be better to mail the receipt to mother nature as the Icelandic government has nothing to do with his parents being (stuck) in Europe :s Ofc you would say that, being from Iceland!
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On April 16 2010 22:06 MourningWould wrote:amen to that, brother
Amen to what, you both watched a crap movie and are able to remember a number? The world is not ending because of an volcano on Iceland is showing off a little.
On April 17 2010 04:31 Chupacabra(UCSD) wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 17 2010 03:36 Ian Ian Ian wrote: My parents are in europe. Now I have to go through who knows how many more days of making my own meals.
fuck you mother earth LOL Well anyways, you guys laughed at me when I said the quakes weren't a coincidence, you laughed at me when I said that volcanic eruptions would follow (yellowstone is next) but as the shadow once again crawls across our world, and the stench of terror dreads on a bitter wind, you people pray for strength and guidance. You should pray for the mercy of a swift death.
We will still be laughing every time you post (in this manner). Just like every doomsayer will still be posting some new bullshit when 2012 comes and goes.
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2012 is like the most believable doomsday thing there ever has been. There's a lot of hype, a film about it, apparently some sketchy ass predictions/evidence, shit is getting crazy just now with quakes, volcanoes etc
If 2012 doesn't happen I'm going to lay the smackdown on anyone predicting the end of the world after that.
I'll say
IT DIDNT HAPPEN IN 2012 SO ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
or something to that effect.
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maybe 2012
ALREADY DID HAPPEN
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Maybe there will be a cataclysmic catastrophe of an unimaginable magnitude that actually ends the universe and forces everything up until that point to endlessly repeat in a series of loops one of which contains us presently and 2012 has in fact happened and will happen an infinite number of times.
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The world won't end at 2012, Ragnarök will end the world (And begin it anew), and since rangaröks prelude is three years of winter, aka the fimbulwinter, we can quickly come to the conclusion that the world wont end at 2012.
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On April 17 2010 00:13 Zoltan wrote: For those living curently in the path of the ash- please remember only the finest (read: microscopic) ash will make it to the ground, and this is the most dangerous for your long term health. Its like breathing in small shards of glass. To all my european brethren- wear breathing masks until SIX MONTHS after the volcano stops spewing. Hope all turns out well.
Sources?
According to http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,689506-7,00.html there are no effects on health.
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Seeing as how Irony really doesn't translate well in the form of a text think we could keep the "Durf durf Iceland" jokes to a minimum ? I realize they are only jokes but I think it's quite mean spirited to "kick a man when he is down".
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This is the best website ever, 1 stop when visiting the web. Thanks TL and thanks OP. I have friends who are stuck in England trying to get to Sweden. >< I'll be safe at home playing starcraft 2
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"The last eruption of the Eyjafjallajokull volcano was on 20 March, when a 0.5km-long fissure opened up on the eastern side of the glacier at the Fimmvoerduhals Pass. The eruption prior to that started in 1821 - and continued for two years." lol that's hardcore.
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Damn, this is crazy, now they are saying this is the worse interruption of air travel in Europe ever. Also my mother has been reading the german newspapers online and apparently the Chancellor of Germany was forced to land in Portugal because of the ash.
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On April 17 2010 06:08 Reason wrote: 2012 is like the most believable doomsday thing there ever has been. There's a lot of hype, a film about it, apparently some sketchy ass predictions/evidence, shit is getting crazy just now with quakes, volcanoes etc
If 2012 doesn't happen I'm going to lay the smackdown on anyone predicting the end of the world after that.
I'll say
IT DIDNT HAPPEN IN 2012 SO ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
or something to that effect.
according to Isaac Newton shit is going to hit the fan around 2060 or so
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Its funny, you could actually smell the gases from the volcano in DK. It smelled like farts, it was pretty vague though so it might just be me.
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On April 17 2010 19:42 Kong John wrote: Its funny, you could actually smell the gases from the volcano in DK. It smelled like farts, it was pretty vague though so it might just be me. Easy to find out. Just watch out for other people wrinkling their noses around you.
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Airplane delays are the worst when you don't have a labtop with SC running on it!!!!!
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On April 16 2010 05:07 Stenstyren wrote:This volcano has not erupted since the 18th century. That time the eruption lasted one and a half year and the 4 following summers were notably colder then usual. Prepare for the might of nature and taking the boat to America how would taking a boat to America help?
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On April 17 2010 07:45 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: "The last eruption of the Eyjafjallajokull volcano was on 20 March, when a 0.5km-long fissure opened up on the eastern side of the glacier at the Fimmvoerduhals Pass. The eruption prior to that started in 1821 - and continued for two years." lol that's hardcore.
Try saying Eyjafjallajokull five times fast.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Can't get to uni thanks to this :|
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On April 17 2010 10:31 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2010 06:08 Reason wrote: 2012 is like the most believable doomsday thing there ever has been. There's a lot of hype, a film about it, apparently some sketchy ass predictions/evidence, shit is getting crazy just now with quakes, volcanoes etc
If 2012 doesn't happen I'm going to lay the smackdown on anyone predicting the end of the world after that.
I'll say
IT DIDNT HAPPEN IN 2012 SO ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
or something to that effect.
according to Isaac Newton shit is going to hit the fan around 2060 or so
Just curious, can you explain to me more about that?
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Its bullshit, Newton didn't do doomsday prophecies, just physics and calculus
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On April 18 2010 06:35 N3rV[Green] wrote: Its bullshit, Newton didn't do doomsday prophecies, just physics and calculus
excuse me?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_occult_studies
newton was an alchemist
he didnt directly predict 2060 or any specific date. But he said that the world would end no earlier than 2060 by his biblical shit.
to say he just did "physics and calculus" is asinine.
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In 1822 (or something), the volcano erupted as well, and it stayed active for 2 years.
That means we could potentially be seeing ash spilling into the air for 2 years straight.
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On April 19 2010 02:39 FortuneSyn wrote: In 1822 (or something), the volcano erupted as well, and it stayed active for 2 years.
That means we could potentially be seeing ash spilling into the air for 2 years straight.
Ah men, threre goes the warm summers
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So apparently Europe is sending empty planes into the air despite the ash.
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Obama brought his 2 cars and an ambulance here few days before!
I will make sure we won't give those back :D
P.S anyone know how to set up firefox not to underline every f... word i write in non-polish? :/
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The keyword is "may".
And how long, hopefully not, before a plane crashes due to ash affecting the planes engine?
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It says "may" because it depends on how much ashes will that volcano continue to produce later. But that being said, traveling was resumed here in north poland today at 2pm. (South is still under thick layer of cloud, so no planes there... not counting those flying below 3km or military force)
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The eruption is expected to last roughly a year and is very likely to set off the much larger vulcano Katla, don't expect this to get better anytime soon.
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man im working for ferry company and now ppl instead of flying are sailing.... ITS ANNOYING
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On April 19 2010 02:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So apparently Europe is sending empty planes into the air despite the ash. ![[image loading]](http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/smoke.gif)
Only a few airline companies IN Europe are doing this. But I suppose you didn't mean that every country are sending airplanes despite the dangers.
Anyway, I don't have much information about it, but I suppose they have to try. I mean, they must be desperate since there's so many problems because of the eruption. I have a friend who's stuck in Scotland and she can't come until Friday or even later. But it's not just "regular" people who are stuck. Imagine all the airborne transports being delayed, important meetings that have to be canceled etc. We're talking about losing millions if not billions of dollars here. Many airline companies are on the edge on bankruptcy, for example. Some economics say that most of them will last a few weeks maximum.
Some airports are already back on track in Sweden though, and the biggest one might even reopen tomorrow. It seems that it's safe to fly, except for certain areas.
Not posting any sources since they are in Swedish. This newspaper is not much of a source anyway, but consequences like these seem very likely.
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On April 19 2010 03:31 Klockan3 wrote:The eruption is expected to last roughly a year and is very likely to set off the much larger vulcano Katla, don't expect this to get better anytime soon.
It CAN last up to a year, but that is not very likely at all. And it should also be very low chance that Katla erupts because of this.
And yeah, it does seem like airports are opening all over europe this evening, but i guess it is quite uncertain if they will remain open, as it all depends on where the wind takes the ash.
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On April 19 2010 06:01 Joe12 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 03:31 Klockan3 wrote:The eruption is expected to last roughly a year and is very likely to set off the much larger vulcano Katla, don't expect this to get better anytime soon. It CAN last up to a year, but that is not very likely at all. And it should also be very low chance that Katla erupts because of this. And yeah, it does seem like airports are opening all over europe this evening, but i guess it is quite uncertain if they will remain open, as it all depends on where the wind takes the ash. http://www.metro.co.uk/news/821991-iceland-volcano-that-was-just-a-little-one-warn-volcanologists
The last 3 times this volcano erupted it also caused Katla to erupt as well and Katla, according to volcanologists, is overdue for an eruption anyway.
"The eruption of an Icelandic volcano in 1783 caused a thick fog of gas across much of Europe and North America for eight months." :O
British Airways, Air France and some other airlines have sent test flights up to check out the conditions, they say they have not had any problems with the engines. However the ban on air travel in the UK was just extended to tomorrow evening.
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Damn, Katla sounds scary. Hope nothing happens.
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they just stopped air travel because just minimal risk for life outweights the missed profit of those companies, but if this continues for longer, air travel will be resumed because its still very well possible to fly without problems, its just a bit riskier.
Oh and i know people that are stuck in new york and lufthansa is paying their stay at the hilton.
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hope travel resumes on monday good luck for those who are travelling!
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On April 19 2010 06:12 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 06:01 Joe12 wrote:On April 19 2010 03:31 Klockan3 wrote:The eruption is expected to last roughly a year and is very likely to set off the much larger vulcano Katla, don't expect this to get better anytime soon. It CAN last up to a year, but that is not very likely at all. And it should also be very low chance that Katla erupts because of this. And yeah, it does seem like airports are opening all over europe this evening, but i guess it is quite uncertain if they will remain open, as it all depends on where the wind takes the ash. http://www.metro.co.uk/news/821991-iceland-volcano-that-was-just-a-little-one-warn-volcanologistsThe last 3 times this volcano erupted it also caused Katla to erupt as well and Katla, according to volcanologists, is overdue for an eruption anyway. "The eruption of an Icelandic volcano in 1783 caused a thick fog of gas across much of Europe and North America for eight months." :OBritish Airways, Air France and some other airlines have sent test flights up to check out the conditions, they say they have not had any problems with the engines. However the ban on air travel in the UK was just extended to tomorrow evening. aww wtf, keep that shit to yourselves you damn euros!
I was starring at that .gif of the ash spreading and it kept creeping to North America and the whole time I was thinking "ah hells no"
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On April 19 2010 06:12 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 06:01 Joe12 wrote:On April 19 2010 03:31 Klockan3 wrote:The eruption is expected to last roughly a year and is very likely to set off the much larger vulcano Katla, don't expect this to get better anytime soon. It CAN last up to a year, but that is not very likely at all. And it should also be very low chance that Katla erupts because of this. And yeah, it does seem like airports are opening all over europe this evening, but i guess it is quite uncertain if they will remain open, as it all depends on where the wind takes the ash. http://www.metro.co.uk/news/821991-iceland-volcano-that-was-just-a-little-one-warn-volcanologists"The last 3 times this volcano erupted it also caused Katla to erupt as well and Katla, according to volcanologists, is overdue for an eruption anyway. "The eruption of an Icelandic volcano in 1783 caused a thick fog of gas across much of Europe and North America for eight months." :O British Airways, Air France and some other airlines have sent test flights up to check out the conditions, they say they have not had any problems with the engines. However the ban on air travel in the UK was just extended to tomorrow evening.
Fair enough, the possibility is definitely there, but as the article states, it is not likely to happen.
"So far, there have been no signs of the reawakening of the Katla volcano, but a lot of things can still happen,’ Prof Einarsson concluded"
"But, rather than ultimate catastrophe, meteorologists say the ash in the sky is more likely to merely cause some spectacular sunsets."
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On April 19 2010 02:43 Vain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 02:39 FortuneSyn wrote: In 1822 (or something), the volcano erupted as well, and it stayed active for 2 years.
That means we could potentially be seeing ash spilling into the air for 2 years straight. Ah men, threre goes the warm summers
Sweet, maybe this will kill global warming.
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I've been stuck in Dallas (DALLAS) for 3 days instead of being in Paris. Why's Iceland have to be so volcanic
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On April 19 2010 14:24 FieryBalrog wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 02:43 Vain wrote:On April 19 2010 02:39 FortuneSyn wrote: In 1822 (or something), the volcano erupted as well, and it stayed active for 2 years.
That means we could potentially be seeing ash spilling into the air for 2 years straight. Ah men, threre goes the warm summers Sweet, maybe this will kill global warming.
Probably not, judging from this link (too lazy to find a scientific site but usually Bloomberg are pretty good with their sources). http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=aPTbYzSvqEag
The eruption output is not going high enough into the atmosphere and will just get rained out
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It's possible that this eruption could potentially last for up to a year, or that it could trigger the eruption of a bigger volcano in Iceland nearby.
Sorry if this has been posted already.
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I've read about people taking the bus home from Spain and Greece all the way to Sweden. 60 hour busride, sounds like fun, right?
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On April 19 2010 21:54 HaXXspetten wrote: I've read about people taking the bus home from Spain and Greece all the way to Sweden. 60 hour busride, sounds like fun, right?
when i was younger i took 48 hr busdrives to the SW of spain and back a few weeks later, it was really cool. When i was back home in the first week while being half-asleep i really missed constantly being sorrounded by people and was involuntarely projecting myself back into a crowd of people chatting etc.
But the best was my 3 trips to greece with hundreds of others, 24 hrs busdrive and then 18 hrs or so on a ship with all those other people partying and sleeping under the sky (we didnt book rooms).
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Awesome...Now the only way to get back to uni is to try and get a place on a crowded crossing..fun..
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![[image loading]](http://www.lemonde.fr/image/2010/04/19/575x385_1598327_0_e8fe_ill-1339888-33da-p4176056.jpg) lol
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I might actually buy me that t-shirt.
Seems like Iceland will be getting it's first proper ash in a few days as Thursday(???) and Friday ash is expected to fall in the capital area.
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My parents were supposed to come home from Poland on Saturday, now they have to wait until Wednesday ):
I miss my mom >:
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Not very often, but on a few occasions over the past week, there has been a layer of greyish black dust over the car and wind shield, I wonder if it's related? (Liverpool this is).
I hope it ends soon, otherwise I'm going to have to use boats and trains to get to China!
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Is there any word when planes are gonna go back up?
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On April 22 2010 20:03 Kim_Hyun_Han wrote: vulcanic winter?
volcanic winter=colder temperatures=more snow=better snowboarding? i could live with this!
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On April 22 2010 20:12 imBLIND wrote: Is there any word when planes are gonna go back up?
They already are. Air traffic is back to normal as of today, except for a few airports that still remain closed
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