EPTI prefer it to be wired but if wireless is the best I can go with then I'll just go with that. I especially need it because I plan on heading to that Texas TL Meetup this summer haha.
Thanks a lot in advance.
[R] Good Mac-Compatible Mouse
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
I prefer it to be wired but if wireless is the best I can go with then I'll just go with that. I especially need it because I plan on heading to that Texas TL Meetup this summer haha. Thanks a lot in advance. | ||
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Cheeseball
Australia208 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
Also can we please not turn this thread into a mac vs pc debate? We have thousands of them already. Thanks EDIT: I use a wireless logitech mouse and keyboard with my mbp, and it works fine. I managed to play a game of HoN with them about a week ago and there were no oddities. EDIT2: I should also add that most people I know wouldn't consider buying a gaming mouse, so don't take my word as everything heh | ||
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jabberwokie
Canada142 Posts
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
On March 29 2010 21:33 Bockit wrote: Most people I know swear by the logitech mouses for mac. Don't go near the mighty mouse, and I have heard mixed reviews of the magic mouse. Also can we please not turn this thread into a mac vs pc debate? We have thousands of them already. Thanks EDIT: I use a wireless logitech mouse and keyboard with my mbp, and it works fine. I managed to play a game of HoN with them about a week ago and there were no oddities. EDIT2: I should also add that most people I know wouldn't consider buying a gaming mouse, so don't take my word as everything heh Thanks for the input I'm not too sure if I care about getting a gaming mouse, but I suppose I don't see the downfall in it if it's within my price-range. Any specific logitech equipment you would recommend?Edit: Do you recommend also investing in a keyboard as well? Do you think it would serve my gaming that much more? On March 29 2010 21:35 jabberwokie wrote: I would still go with the razor salmosa I think it's one of the cheaper ones, great mouse or diamondback if you need the extra buttons. Do razers work with Macs? I heard you can run a program like SteerMouse to make it work but I'm not sure that they are out-of-the-box. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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zuqbu
Germany797 Posts
1. never use any mouse from apple. if you get one with your imac or so, sell it on ebay without using it. people will almost pay the same price for it as if it was new and boxed. 2. you can use any usb mouse you want as long as you… 3. …never use software/drivers from the manufacturer of your preferred mouse. 4. really don't use any apple mouse. these things are ergonomic disasters. let me explain #3: there are logitech drivers, which suck and don't support all of their recent mice and/or all their features. there are razer deathadder drivers, which are just plain buggy and so on etc. the lack of any decent manufacturer drivers has spawned two very usable shareware drivers, which will work with any usb mouse, give you total control over the button configuration, scroll wheel settings etc. these are in no particular order: - USB Overdrive http://www.usboverdrive.com/ - Steermouse http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/index.html these are all shareware, so just see which one works best for you. i would recommend steermouse over usb overdrive, but that's just personal preference. and then there is: - ControllerMate http://www.orderedbytes.com/controllermate/ which is an entirely different beast and much more powerful (as well as complicated) then anything else. but after fiddling around with every driver and mouse fix on a mac, controller mate is the only way to permanently fix (read: eliminate) the stupid mac mouse acceleration. if you're picky about stuff like that, it's the best solution even if it will take you some time to set up. | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
I was thinking of getting a Salmosa. Haven't tried it yet. | ||
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tirentu
Canada1257 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
On March 29 2010 21:42 IndecisivePenguin wrote: Thanks for the input I'm not too sure if I care about getting a gaming mouse, but I suppose I don't see the downfall in it if it's within my price-range. Any specific logitech equipment you would recommend?Edit: Do you recommend also investing in a keyboard as well? Do you think it would serve my gaming that much more? Do razers work with Macs? I heard you can run a program like SteerMouse to make it work but I'm not sure that they are out-of-the-box. I don't have any specific to recommend unfortunately, I don't know enough about the different models. Regarding keyboard, I know that I couldn't play games on the laptop keyboard, I'd mess up my keys way too much. Also by getting a keyboard it'll be windows layout, so if you're running your games in a windows partition or through virtual machine then it'll be more natural for you. | ||
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
On March 29 2010 22:03 zuqbu wrote: i'm speaking from 12 years experience with multiple logitech, microsoft and razer mice on various macs. and there are just four things you need to know about macs & mice: 1. never use any mouse from apple. if you get one with your imac or so, sell it on ebay without using it. people will almost pay the same price for it as if it was new and boxed. 2. you can use any usb mouse you want as long as you… 3. …never use software/drivers from the manufacturer of your preferred mouse. 4. really don't use any apple mouse. these things are ergonomic disasters. let me explain #3: there are logitech drivers, which suck and don't support all of their recent mice and/or all their features. there are razer deathadder drivers, which are just plain buggy and so on etc. the lack of any decent manufacturer drivers has spawned two very usable shareware drivers, which will work with any usb mouse, give you total control over the button configuration, scroll wheel settings etc. these are in no particular order: - USB Overdrive http://www.usboverdrive.com/ - Steermouse http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/index.html these are all shareware, so just see which one works best for you. i would recommend steermouse over usb overdrive, but that's just personal preference. and then there is: - ControllerMate http://www.orderedbytes.com/controllermate/ which is an entirely different beast and much more powerful (as well as complicated) then anything else. but after fiddling around with every driver and mouse fix on a mac, controller mate is the only way to permanently fix (read: eliminate) the stupid mac mouse acceleration. if you're picky about stuff like that, it's the best solution even if it will take you some time to set up. Nice! I had no idea that the shareware drivers existed, thanks. | ||
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-dash
Netherlands103 Posts
On March 29 2010 21:31 Cheeseball wrote: Any reason why you are getting a Mac over an equally decent other brand laptop that is over a grand cheaper? OSX I have a G5 hooked up to my iMac, works great. | ||
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Nuttyguy
United Kingdom1526 Posts
Razer Lachesis doesnt work at all with mac Mighty mouse the one with 1 button just fails | ||
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JodoYodo
Canada1772 Posts
Nowadays I just use a generic USB mouse... works fine, no drivers. | ||
cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
On March 29 2010 21:22 IndecisivePenguin wrote: Hello there all! I'm likely getting a Macbook Pro this summer for college, but I wanted to make sure to at least get myself a mouse so that I can play BW/SC2 properly. So! I was wondering if anyone out there knows of any good mouses that are for Mac or are Mac compatible. I prefer it to be wired but if wireless is the best I can go with then I'll just go with that. I especially need it because I plan on heading to that Texas TL Meetup this summer haha. Thanks a lot in advance. I rock SC BW and WC3 on my macbook running my Razer Lachesis without the drivers and I'd say duel boot windows. The way that OS X refreshes it's mouse makes it really shitty to play BW on. | ||
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Random()
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
What is so good about OSX? (That is not a troll question -- I tried to use a Macbook for some time and found the OS rather awkward. However I know some people who are Mac fans, but they can't really explain what it is they like so much. "it's good because it's so good" is all they say.) | ||
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
On March 29 2010 22:03 zuqbu wrote: a lot of useful information. Based on the parts of it that I know, this guy knows what he's talking about. | ||
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zanderfever.TV
United States362 Posts
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Gnabgib
United States381 Posts
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JodoYodo
Canada1772 Posts
On March 30 2010 03:37 Gnabgib wrote: Shouldn't any usb pc mouse also work for mac? It should. I think he was more interested in making sure higher-tech mouses have the right driver support. What is so good about OSX? I used to hate OSX a lot, but after I used it a lot during an internship I realized that the majority of my dislike was due to being unfamiliar with it. To me OSX has a lot of little things that just build up and make the day-to-day things about using the computer more enjoyable. There are a lot of neat things about the UI and I'm fine with having two OSes on my machine, just like I have two different pairs of shoes for doing different things. My advice in trying out OSX though, is to do it with someone who knows it, so that they can help you ^__^ | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
The Deathadder is a great all-around mouse that is very comfortable for general use. This is probably my all-time favorite mouse, and I've owned more mice than I'm man enough to admit. In case you didn't click on the link, there is a Mac-specific Deathadder with native driver suite etc. It's the 'old' 1800 DPI version, but unless you have a 30" monitor, 1800 is gonna be more than enough for your purposes. It also has 900/450 (iirc) DPI settings if you're playing older games or at a lower resolution in general. In addition there is a sensitivity bar in the Drivers that goes from 1 to 10 (where 10 is 100% of current DPI, and you can scale the sensitivity down from there to match whatever cursor speed you want). You can also download firmware that disables prediction. You may or may not care about this, but I would suggest doing it unless you often edit images with the mouse - it feels much more natural. | ||
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iMAniaC
Norway703 Posts
I would imagine that the MacBook Pro might get kind of warm when running SC2 for a longer period of time and it can get uncomfortable after a while to rest your palm on its surface when using the built-in keyboard. Also, I sometimes find myself sweeping over the touchpad with my palm when reaching for the keys over to the middle and right with my left hand. So with that in mind, I'd go for an external keyboard as well, especially since you can often find a good deal on a mouse + keyboard. That being said, it works perfectly well to play without an external keyboard as well, but for me, it just feels so good to get back on an external keyboard after having played without it for a while, so I'd say it's well worth the investment. | ||
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Nuttyguy
United Kingdom1526 Posts
On March 30 2010 03:37 Gnabgib wrote: Shouldn't any usb pc mouse also work for mac? nah the razer lachesis which is a usb mouse just spazzes around the screen | ||
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muzzy
United States640 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11557 Posts
And yeah, USB Overdrive is essential for Mac OS X if you plan to do any gaming whatsoever. Oh, and a word of caution for you: The MacBook Pro gets amazingly hot, even while doing absolutely nothing. Like right now, all I have is Chrome with 2 tabs, UTorrent, IRC, and iTunes (normal idle situation), and this computer is hitting 65C on both cores. It becomes really uncomfortable if you actually try to put it on your lap  | ||
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Jlab
United States217 Posts
But thats just my opinion | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
On March 30 2010 08:11 FragKrag wrote: I've actually been using a Microsoft Comfort Optical 3000 mouse. It was $10 so I bought like 3 of them. Still on my first after 3-4 years of use. I like it. And yeah, USB Overdrive is essential for Mac OS X if you plan to do any gaming whatsoever. Oh, and a word of caution for you: The MacBook Pro gets amazingly hot, even while doing absolutely nothing. Like right now, all I have is Chrome with 2 tabs, UTorrent, IRC, and iTunes (normal idle situation), and this computer is hitting 65C on both cores. It becomes really uncomfortable if you actually try to put it on your lap Do any of those pages have a flash object embedded in the page by any chance? Any kind of flash being loaded by a browser causes my mbp to start up the fan. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11557 Posts
Though yeah, Flash really hurts the temps on this computer. Loading youtube makes the temp spike to like 75-80 sometimes. | ||
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27172 Posts
On March 30 2010 05:24 iMAniaC wrote: Lots of good advice here. Just let me add one thing: I would imagine that the MacBook Pro might get kind of warm when running SC2 for a longer period of time and it can get uncomfortable after a while to rest your palm on its surface when using the built-in keyboard. Also, I sometimes find myself sweeping over the touchpad with my palm when reaching for the keys over to the middle and right with my left hand. So with that in mind, I'd go for an external keyboard as well, especially since you can often find a good deal on a mouse + keyboard. That being said, it works perfectly well to play without an external keyboard as well, but for me, it just feels so good to get back on an external keyboard after having played without it for a while, so I'd say it's well worth the investment. My macbook doesn't get warm playing SC2, but the touchpad is a huge pain in the ass. A keyboard is very helpful. | ||
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JodoYodo
Canada1772 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11557 Posts
I've seen temps going past 100 sometimes T_T(1st gen aluminum) | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27172 Posts
It is this one: ![[image loading]](http://web.me.com/ash.matadeen/theapplefiles/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/macbook.png) from like 2005/2006 ish. I have a little thermal mat underneath but it doesn't get very warm at all. | ||
Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On March 30 2010 12:47 Manifesto7 wrote: I guess mine isn't pro. It is this one: from like 2005/2006 ish. I have a little thermal mat underneath but it doesn't get very warm at all. What? It doesn't get very warm at all? Wow, because mine burns up, especially if I'm playing videos for a long time. It gets to the point where it's almost too hot to put on my lap. Do you mind posting your specs? I just want to compare yours to mine since you bought yours around 2005/2006 | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27172 Posts
2 GB RAM On board graphics. Yeah... I am rocking low settings. | ||
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On March 30 2010 20:15 Manifesto7 wrote: 2.00 GHz core duo 2 GB RAM On board graphics. Yeah... I am rocking low settings. Thanks, I bought mine around 2007, we have the same specs, which is cool because it means I can play SC2 on my Mac even if it has to be low settings :D | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27172 Posts
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
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zuqbu
Germany797 Posts
On March 30 2010 03:14 cgrinker wrote: I rock SC BW and WC3 on my macbook running my Razer Lachesis without the drivers and I'd say duel boot windows. The way that OS X refreshes it's mouse makes it really shitty to play BW on. i'm not entirely sure about what you mean by "refreshing". but check my post earlier for a link to the controllermate software, it allows for a custom mouse acceleration curve. tutorial on the controllermate website forum thread about emulating windows mouse acceleration with controller mate my mouse input is configured like this: ![[image loading]](http://zuq.pixelpimps.de/gaming/linearaccel.png) which gives me complete linear input, with no acceleration whatsoever. i hope that helps to clarify. On March 30 2010 22:14 IndecisivePenguin wrote: So would you say getting bootcamp or another windows program software would be better than playing it through Carbon? And is the Logitech Mini Optical Plus better than the original? there is no other way to play starcraft II beta on the mac than bootcamp right now, BUT mac beta should arrive in april afaik. my guess is, based on the history of blizzard games, scII will run perfectly fine in os x. | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27172 Posts
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
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VManOfMana
United States764 Posts
For playing games, I'd go for Bootcamp. Parallels and VMWare are virtualization solutions that are great for getting work done when you need a Windows application, but I wouldn't recommend it for games. The main difference (in a very simplified description) is that under virtualization, the OS cannot fully use your computer's resources. I use a Salmosa out of the box. No problems. I don't have additional drivers, but then again I am no fan of fancy functions on my mouse. As of Apple mice, my favorite is the old Pro Mouse, I use it for daily tasks by it's no good for SC having only one button. The Mighty Mouse I could never get used to. I do like the current Magic Mouse, but wouldn't use it for games. I used to hate OSX a lot, but after I used it a lot during an internship I realized that the majority of my dislike was due to being unfamiliar with it. To me OSX has a lot of little things that just build up and make the day-to-day things about using the computer more enjoyable. There are a lot of neat things about the UI and I'm fine with having two OSes on my machine, just like I have two different pairs of shoes for doing different things. My advice in trying out OSX though, is to do it with someone who knows it, so that they can help you ^__^ I'll add by saying that overall, OSX is just a smoother ride. Overall the system behaves more consistently and is non intrusive with annoying warnings and dialogs. It also helps that application developers do a good job in following the user interface guidelines, preserving th consistent look and feel. It's the kind of intangibles you don't miss until you don't have them. Overall, OSX is easier to learn. The hard part is unlearning Windows and its quirks. An example is the common complaint of "not using enter to open a file". | ||
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
On March 30 2010 22:45 Manifesto7 wrote: Bootcamp, from what i have read, is better than fusion or parallels but it depends on your system. For me it is the only choice. If you're gaming Bootcamp is the only option. When running Fusion/Parallels you must split your RAM amongst them, which is not optimal for gaming. Also, I'm not exactly sure what does it, but there is slight lag between your actions and when they're issued while running parallels/fusion(tried it out with Broodwar). | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
On March 30 2010 22:45 Manifesto7 wrote: Bootcamp, from what i have read, is better than fusion or parallels but it depends on your system. For me it is the only choice. It's better specifically for compatibility. Ease of use, I must say it is a bit annoying to restart 1-2 times a day. But it is definitely better for gaming. I've used both Parallels and Fusion, and for simply running low-requirement applications, it works beautifully. Seamless integration, if it works ideally. | ||
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VManOfMana
United States764 Posts
On March 30 2010 08:31 Bockit wrote: Do any of those pages have a flash object embedded in the page by any chance? Any kind of flash being loaded by a browser causes my mbp to start up the fan. Google for Click2Flash. It blocks Safari from loading Flash unless you explicitly say so. It also helps to watch Youtube without Flash and easily download videos. | ||
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
cd of Windows XP at the moment so I don't have use for getting bootcamp at the moment. I'll likely get it when I get my MBP though. As for the mouse, I'm not sure how I feel about the efficiency of playing SC with a large mouse, such as one where your palm rests. I use the magic mouse now. It's definitely not a gaming mouse but I work with what I have. I'm trying to decide between a Logitech Mini Optical (Plus?) or a Razer. Leaning more toward the Logitech though. | ||
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VTArlock
United States1763 Posts
 Anyways I've been using a logitech mx518 mouse since I was 14 or 15. I am 21 now and I still refuse to use another mouse. Obviously thats my vote.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104178&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-InputDevices-_-NA-_-NA | ||
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
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Old Sagat
United States42 Posts
EDIT: Missed the keyboard question. Just use the standard mac thin silver and white keyboard. That thing is the shit. | ||
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Ursad0n
United States523 Posts
On April 07 2010 07:21 IndecisivePenguin wrote: Alright so I've decided on the mouse I'm getting (Logitech Mini Optical) but now I need an external keyboard to go with it. Does anyone have any ideas? That is a wonderful choice that's what i use on my MacBook Pro. and i use a Diamondback 3G and my LMO for my PC. I will say that the drivers a a disaster for Mac, but the LMO works like a charm. | ||
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