NSFW is content that is "Not safe for work". This includes not only explicitely sexual pictures and videos, but any sort of image which is sexual or grotesque in nature such that the average person would not want to see while at work.
I am going to start giving out warnings and bans for this. As teamliquid grows, so too does the responsibility of the OP to protect readers. Many users access teamliquid.net from shared computers, work computers and in public areas.
Note: Placing NSFW images in spoilers is not an acceptable solution. Images in spoilers preload (apparently only in Firefox?) defeating the entire purpose of using them.
If you are making a NSFW thread, please place NSFW as the first text in the thread title. This ensures the warning will show up in the sidebar as well as the forum index.
If you are linking to a NSFW page (from teamliquid.net or not), please indicate clearly that the link is NSFW.
If you are making a NSFW reply in a thread that hasn't be labelled as NSFW, do not use the img tag. Leave the images as links. This way people don't accidentally access the images. Remember that putting them in spoiler tags is not a solution.
If you have any questions or suggestions to improve these guidelines, please reply.
What about YouTUbe videos? Google does a good job prefiltering most of the stuff but you can still find "sexy" videos or "wtf" videos in youtube and TL auto tags them. People should be noted to force links (with [url]) when posting videos too...
There are some threads "random pics" comes to mind, that has a lot of spoilered NSFW images, should the mods then change the titles of these threads to reflect this? Should we come up with a list of those "major" threads that should probably need that title?
Seems like a good idea, but you probably don't want to have to go through all the threads to find stuff like this. Are we gonna add this stuff to previous threads or let them be grandfathered in despite the new guidelines?
On February 12 2010 04:35 IntoTheWow wrote: i think image thread should be and exception or should be renamed to have the [NSFW] tag in it's name : )
This is a very important point.
I can't help always clicking the NSFW-links at work though. I imagine the secret service guys (really, we have them. It's a big company) will come to take me away soon =(
On February 12 2010 04:36 LaughingTulkas wrote: There are some threads "random pics" comes to mind, that has a lot of spoilered NSFW images, should the mods then change the titles of these threads to reflect this? Should we come up with a list of those "major" threads that should probably need that title?
Seems like a good idea, but you probably don't want to have to go through all the threads to find stuff like this. Are we gonna add this stuff to previous threads or let them be grandfathered in despite the new guidelines?
Right - It would be nearly impossible to go through every old thread this might apply to. So, for high traffic threads, such as the Random Image thread, we can easily rename. This will apply to all threads/posts moving forward from today.
I don't agree with this at all. You shouldn't be reading TL at work anyway, and this is a step in a direction that I don't want to see TL going. TL is not a professional website, it is a forum where people in their teens and early-mid 20's (for the most part) come to take a break and banter with each other about both sc and non-sc related stuff, that just so happens to host a ton of amazing events and material as well.
I feel that NSFW tags should be present as a matter of courtesy, but disallowing it entirely is a form of censorship. What's next, no cuss words? It's not like I visit TL to see nude women and profanity, but disallowing this sort of thing kills the spirit of this forum.
Edit: Opps, totally missed the sentence saying the only restriction is putting NSFW in the title. I Completely support this then.
On February 12 2010 04:51 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: I don't agree with this at all. You shouldn't be reading TL at work anyway, and this is a step in a direction that I don't want to see TL going. TL is not a professional website, it is a forum where people in their teens and early-mid 20's (for the most part) come to take a break and banter with each other about both sc and non-sc related stuff, that just so happens to host a ton of amazing events and material as well.
I feel that NSFW tags should be present as a matter of courtesy, but disallowing it entirely is a form of censorship. What's next, no cuss words? It's not like I visit TL to see nude women and profanity, but disallowing this sort of thing kills the spirit of this forum.
It's not being disallowed entirely, if I'm reading this correctly...
On February 12 2010 04:51 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: I don't agree with this at all. You shouldn't be reading TL at work anyway, and this is a step in a direction that I don't want to see TL going. TL is not a professional website, it is a forum where people in their teens and early-mid 20's (for the most part) come to take a break and banter with each other about both sc and non-sc related stuff, that just so happens to host a ton of amazing events and material as well.
I feel that NSFW tags should be present as a matter of courtesy, but disallowing it entirely is a form of censorship. What's next, no cuss words? It's not like I visit TL to see nude women and profanity, but disallowing this sort of thing kills the spirit of this forum.
It isn't being disallowed. You just have to put NSFW in your thread if you are going to post that sort of thing.
Also, what is the TL policy on nudity? I've seen topics with nudity go by unclosed but I was warned and had one of my blogs closed for nudes. Is it a grey area?
On February 12 2010 04:51 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: I don't agree with this at all. You shouldn't be reading TL at work anyway, and this is a step in a direction that I don't want to see TL going. TL is not a professional website, it is a forum where people in their teens and early-mid 20's (for the most part) come to take a break and banter with each other about both sc and non-sc related stuff, that just so happens to host a ton of amazing events and material as well.
I feel that NSFW tags should be present as a matter of courtesy, but disallowing it entirely is a form of censorship. What's next, no cuss words? It's not like I visit TL to see nude women and profanity, but disallowing this sort of thing kills the spirit of this forum.
It isn't being disallowed. You just have to put NSFW in your thread if you are going to post that sort of thing.
Also, what is the TL policy on nudity? I've seen topics with nudity go by unclosed but I was warned and had one of my blogs closed for nudes. Is it a grey area?
For a while I remember TL being completely fine with nudity, but at one point it was decided that its not a good thing. I think the official ruling is no nudity, but its not too heavily enforced so you will see it pass sometimes. Particularly like funny nudity vs porno graphic nudity.
I think TL's policy on nudity is that it is fine as long as it's legal. Of course common sense supersedes what I just wrote, so there's that too if you want to post huge dongs or something.
On February 12 2010 04:51 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: I don't agree with this at all. You shouldn't be reading TL at work anyway, and this is a step in a direction that I don't want to see TL going. TL is not a professional website, it is a forum where people in their teens and early-mid 20's (for the most part) come to take a break and banter with each other about both sc and non-sc related stuff, that just so happens to host a ton of amazing events and material as well.
I feel that NSFW tags should be present as a matter of courtesy, but disallowing it entirely is a form of censorship. What's next, no cuss words? It's not like I visit TL to see nude women and profanity, but disallowing this sort of thing kills the spirit of this forum.
This is the standard at nearly every website. Plenty of things are already disallowed. All we ask is you warn people about what they're about to see - just like spoilers about progaming. Would you argue the requirement of the spoiler tag killed the spirit of the forum?
On February 12 2010 04:51 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: I don't agree with this at all. You shouldn't be reading TL at work anyway, and this is a step in a direction that I don't want to see TL going. TL is not a professional website, it is a forum where people in their teens and early-mid 20's (for the most part) come to take a break and banter with each other about both sc and non-sc related stuff, that just so happens to host a ton of amazing events and material as well.
I feel that NSFW tags should be present as a matter of courtesy, but disallowing it entirely is a form of censorship. What's next, no cuss words? It's not like I visit TL to see nude women and profanity, but disallowing this sort of thing kills the spirit of this forum.
This is the standard at nearly every website. Plenty of things are already disallowed. All we ask is you warn people about what they're about to see - just like spoilers about progaming. Would you argue the requirement of the spoiler tag killed the spirit of the forum?
I missed part of what you wrote, see my above edit. My bad.
TL's policies are a work in progress. I'm sorry if you feel oppressed, but I'm certain it's no big deal. I'm sure if it was properly labelled and linked it would have remained open.
Thats an incredibly misleading video title. They were simply pics of Miranda Kerr from a magazine. The vid shows the one where she was in her underwear. They arent very racy and certainly not porn.
DoctorHelvetica - I **think** it may have been me that closed your thread. It was a blog, right? Do you remember the title of it or anything? I'd be happy to discuss why I closed it with you over PM (if it's even the one I'm thinking of) if you'd like. I will gladly justify any moderation step I take to anyone.
IF it's the one I'm thinking of, and IF I'm remembering correctly, it was just gratuitous nudity in Blogs while we were trying to clean the Blog section out a bit? My stance on it had always been that nudity is humorous/topical it's fine, but creating a thread JUST for the sole purpose always sounded like TL wasn't the best place to do that at.
And if other mods disagree, we can very easily discuss a best practice policy.
It would be a good policy to mention this rule somewhere in the TL Ten Commandments thread so that newbies won't have any excuse when this thread falls off the bottom of the front page of the list.
Perhaps you closed it, I believe it was Plexa who warned me. It's not a big deal and if nudity for the sake of nudity is considered a transgression then I will gladly follow the rules.
I'm interested in ever arguing the legitimacy of the rules, however when it isn't clear what the rules are problems can arise. A lot of newer posters especially have complained about the Ten Commandments and rules being a bit too open to interpretation and it isn't always clear what TL's policy is on a given subject.
My first account from TL was banned and I actually still have no idea why.
On February 12 2010 05:18 EvilTeletubby wrote: DoctorHelvetica - I **think** it may have been me that closed your thread. It was a blog, right? Do you remember the title of it or anything? I'd be happy to discuss why I closed it with you over PM (if it's even the one I'm thinking of) if you'd like. I will gladly justify any moderation step I take to anyone.
IF it's the one I'm thinking of, and IF I'm remembering correctly, it was just gratuitous nudity in Blogs while we were trying to clean the Blog section out a bit? My stance on it had always been that nudity is humorous/topical it's fine, but creating a thread JUST for the sole purpose always sounded like TL wasn't the best place to do that at.
And if other mods disagree, we can very easily discuss a best practice policy.
I could be entirely wrong, but I remember the blog in question. He had been posting an "asian girl" blog a day, with many requests for nudes. Finally around Christmas (I think), he posted a pack. It was almost immediately closed, with the contents edited out. I want to say it was Plexa that closed it, but if you think you did it, then it may have been you.
I did a NSFW search and it didn't come up, so I don't think it had NSFW tags on the topic title, but the insides were presumably spoilered (I got to it after all the editing had been done.) Closing the thread would have been understandable, as there weren't any set rules at the time, and it was really more discretion than anything.
On February 12 2010 05:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Perhaps you closed it, I believe it was Plexa who warned me. It's not a big deal and if nudity for the sake of nudity is considered a transgression then I will gladly follow the rules.
I'm interested in ever arguing the legitimacy of the rules, however when it isn't clear what the rules are problems can arise. A lot of newer posters especially have complained about the Ten Commandments and rules being a bit too open to interpretation and it isn't always clear what TL's policy is on a given subject.
My first account from TL was banned and I actually still have no idea why.
Just found the thread - Yeah, looks like it was Plexa, not me. Although TBH, I probably would have closed it too. Not for lack of your presentation, which was very mannered (you even wrote "If mods feel this crosses the line, please by all means close the thread."), but just for the sake of preventing TL from taking one step closer to being 4chan-esque.
We generally follow an 'at our discretion' principle rather than hard rules in many cases, because the site was founded on the open spirit of open moderation, but as we've grown immensely, we've had to make changes (such as this thread for example) to lay ground rules for the great influx of new people that join every day. It was a lot easier to manage a couple hundred people than a several thousand every day.
On February 12 2010 05:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Perhaps you closed it, I believe it was Plexa who warned me. It's not a big deal and if nudity for the sake of nudity is considered a transgression then I will gladly follow the rules.
I'm interested in ever arguing the legitimacy of the rules, however when it isn't clear what the rules are problems can arise. A lot of newer posters especially have complained about the Ten Commandments and rules being a bit too open to interpretation and it isn't always clear what TL's policy is on a given subject.
My first account from TL was banned and I actually still have no idea why.
I'm really happy about the NSFW stuff in spoilers being forbidden. People don't label their spoilers so you never know what you are going to end up with. A huge dong wouldn't be enjoyable.
Edit: I think I found the thread that instigated this.
I know this is irrelevant, however it's an issue that I think should be discussed, especially when there are mods looking at this topic. I opened a topic about google chrome and it's issue with loading flash objects, particularly flash embeds on this website. This causes a major surfing problem, as you need to open a different browser and paste the URL every time you want to view a VOD.
hot_bid told me to "please use google" and closed the topic without further discussion.
I did, before posting the topic, and I found little discussions here and there about a similar issues, but I found no in depth or definite solution. I saw "re download the flash player" several times. I did that, and I'm still having the same issue with flash embeds (including streams).
I bring this to the attention of the TL community because if I'm having problems with chrome, a now very common browser, then other users are bound to have similar problems. I chose to post the topic to find a solution for not only myself, but for the whole community. Also, there are others who are more knowledgeable about technical troubleshooting than I am, and the collective findings will be valuable.
So I ask again, Is anyone having similar issues? When you open a TL front page article which includes embedded VODs, do they show completely blank? Does this piss you off? Tired of switching browsers and just want to use the simple and safe Google Chrome browser? Would you like to fix it? Lets talk about it.
On February 12 2010 05:24 igotmyown wrote: Spoiler tags use javascript. If you change javascript settings from being automatically enabled, it won't load the spoilers.
This is not true, spoilers will still be loaded.
lerjars: Many many people use Chrome and you seem to be the only one who has this problem. In any case, you are the first one who is complaining. What's there to discuss? Fix the problem on your end. Apart from that why would you post that in here, a thread about a new NSFW rule?
Beacuse it is mod heavy topic, and the thread I posted about it was closed in minutes so there was no discussion. If noone wants to discuss it, forget it.
I don't agree with this at all. You shouldn't be reading TL at work anyway, and this is a step in a direction that I don't want to see TL going. TL is not a professional website, it is a forum where people in their teens and early-mid 20's (for the most part) come to take a break and banter with each other about both sc and non-sc related stuff, that just so happens to host a ton of amazing events and material as well.
I feel that NSFW tags should be present as a matter of courtesy, but disallowing it entirely is a form of censorship. What's next, no cuss words? It's not like I visit TL to see nude women and profanity, but disallowing this sort of thing kills the spirit of this forum.
Edit: Opps, totally missed the sentence saying the only restriction is putting NSFW in the title. I Completely support this then.
I imagine that reading tl.net at work on a break wouldn't be breaking any company guidelines, unless of course there are nsfw images, which of course could get you in trouble.
This was posted like <2 hours after I posted some NSFW content yet I didn't receive any sort of message about it changed it up in my thread so the NSFW content is linked now. This wasn't partially the cause of my post was it?
On February 12 2010 08:13 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: This was posted like <2 hours after I posted some NSFW content yet I didn't receive any sort of message about it changed it up in my thread so the NSFW content is linked now. This wasn't partially the cause of my post was it?
You in fact posted the first porn on the internet ever.
I'm guessing this is probably because I posted some NSFW pics in the Random Pics thread. I thought putting a NSFW in the spoiler tag was a good warning but I forgot pics are preloaded in spoiler tags.
I don't get why it's a problem as long as people put them in spoilers. I mean they don't show up on your screen unless you open the spoiler. Is the problem that it would still show up in history or what?
Chill stepping up the responsibility. Great move man. Doesn't really restrict anything. We can put what we want but just have to put more warning into it, not bad at all.
On February 12 2010 10:51 Jonoman92 wrote: I don't get why it's a problem as long as people put them in spoilers. I mean they don't show up on your screen unless you open the spoiler. Is the problem that it would still show up in history or what?
Yes. Pictures are preloaded when in spoiler tags. Reading ftw.
I understand the issue, but I think it was working so well already with the spoiler tag. The only thing needed is a new spoiler tag technology that doesn't load the content unless clicked (maybe clicked twice for nsfw)... R1111111111111111CH! Because come on...if you "accidentally" click a nsfw spoiler tag, you just gotta be more careful... You could also "accidentally" search for "shemale fucks pony", but you're careful that you don't right?
On February 12 2010 13:57 XsebT wrote: I understand the issue, but I think it was working so well already with the spoiler tag. The only thing needed is a new spoiler tag technology that doesn't load the content unless clicked (maybe clicked twice for nsfw)... R1111111111111111CH! Because come on...if you "accidentally" click a nsfw spoiler tag, you just gotta be more careful... You could also "accidentally" search for "shemale fucks pony", but you're careful that you don't right?
I think the whole point is for everyone to be reasonable and it's very reasonably likely to accidentally click on a spoiler with something NSFW at some point.
I agree with having the [NSFW] tags so viewers can be aware of what sort of material they are going to be viewing beforehand. Precautions are good and can never be bad.
On February 12 2010 10:51 Jonoman92 wrote: I don't get why it's a problem as long as people put them in spoilers. I mean they don't show up on your screen unless you open the spoiler. Is the problem that it would still show up in history or what?
Yes. Pictures are preloaded when in spoiler tags. Reading ftw.
Yes I did read that. I just don't get why it matters as long as you don't open the spoiler. Are companies going to see that pic got loaded and somehow you get in trouble for that?
I don't think many people work at places that would have such stringent monitoring. I always figured the NSFW was more for so if someone walks by they don't see a naked chick on your monitor in which case NSFW spoil tags suffice.
And isn't it just firefox that pre-loads the pics? Use a different browser. I mean I understand the purpose of this I just think it's going to annoying to have tons of threads start with NSFW now.
On February 12 2010 10:51 Jonoman92 wrote: I don't get why it's a problem as long as people put them in spoilers. I mean they don't show up on your screen unless you open the spoiler. Is the problem that it would still show up in history or what?
Yes. Pictures are preloaded when in spoiler tags. Reading ftw.
Yes I did read that. I just don't get why it matters as long as you don't open the spoiler. Are companies going to see that pic got loaded and somehow you get in trouble for that?
I don't think many people work at places that would have such stringent monitoring.
What makes you think that? Anyway, some people, including me, work in places where the entire internet traffic is monitored and in countries where porn is a criminal offense that get's you thrown out of the country or in jail.
I do not understand the concept of NSFW tags in general. "Not safe for work" would be viewing or doing anything not directly linked to one's job duties. This site would most certainly fall under that category for just about any sort of job. If I were an employer, I would not be any more pleased to know that my underlings were wasting valuable time and resources reading a gaming site than I would be if they were openly watching pornography, unless viewing this site could somehow be justified as advancing the company's interests.
On February 12 2010 15:53 Draconizard wrote:"Not safe for work" would be viewing or doing anything not directly linked to one's job duties.
I think your definition is the problem. I believe "not safe for work" is used to mean "unacceptable in a public place." You could even add "if you want to be respected" to the end of that if you like.
I have no idea where you get these ideas from other than that you haven't worked a real job before. Everywhere I worked so far using the net there for private use was fine within certain limits. Porn being outside of these limits. I don't get what's even to discuss it's not like TL is breaking new ground here. We are just making official policy what is commonly agreed upon on basically every community website on the planet.
Thanks for informing us! Sounds like a completely reasonable set of rules. I was actually under the impression that NSFW content wasn't permitted at all, and there are certainly plenty of community sites where that is the case, so I don't think this is overly restrictive at all.
I assume the "placing them in spoilers is no solution because some browsers preload images in spoiler tags" rule is to protect people whose employers (or other authorities) monitor all traffic from false persecution? Very smart.
I'm glad this has been done. Teamliquid is the center of foreign pro Starcraft, so it's good to keep it respectable. It's not exactly ESPN yet but we want to be getting there.
On February 12 2010 07:07 larjarse wrote: I know this is irrelevant, however it's an issue that I think should be discussed, especially when there are mods looking at this topic. I opened a topic about google chrome and it's issue with loading flash objects, particularly flash embeds on this website. This causes a major surfing problem, as you need to open a different browser and paste the URL every time you want to view a VOD.
hot_bid told me to "please use google" and closed the topic without further discussion.
I did, before posting the topic, and I found little discussions here and there about a similar issues, but I found no in depth or definite solution. I saw "re download the flash player" several times. I did that, and I'm still having the same issue with flash embeds (including streams).
I bring this to the attention of the TL community because if I'm having problems with chrome, a now very common browser, then other users are bound to have similar problems. I chose to post the topic to find a solution for not only myself, but for the whole community. Also, there are others who are more knowledgeable about technical troubleshooting than I am, and the collective findings will be valuable.
So I ask again, Is anyone having similar issues? When you open a TL front page article which includes embedded VODs, do they show completely blank? Does this piss you off? Tired of switching browsers and just want to use the simple and safe Google Chrome browser? Would you like to fix it? Lets talk about it.
I highlighted the relevant part. I *KNEW* before I even hunted for your thread, that I would find absolutely no mention of your prior efforts to google a solution, and I was absolutely correct.
The problem is, it looks as if you did not attempt to seek out your own solution, but rather, came here looking for an answer on a silver platter. Threads like that are highly frowned upon, and essentially, instantly closed. With good reason.
Several years ago, we had an epidemic of 'homework help' threads. People would literally post their homework questions, make no effort to figure it out on their own, and expect an answer. Hell, some people got angry if they received an explanation of how to do it, rather than just the straight answer. Since then, we've had a bad taste in our mouths towards the "can you just give me an answer?" vibe.
Now, if you had explained in your original thread, like you did here, that you attempted to find an answer on your own but were just stuck, your thread would have remained open just fine.
On February 12 2010 18:37 JohnColtrane wrote: is porn a criminal offence in germany?
yes u get life in prison for watching porn in germany
"Anyway, some people, including me, work in places where the entire internet traffic is monitored and in countries where porn is a criminal offense that get's you thrown out of the country or in jail."
On February 12 2010 05:24 igotmyown wrote: Spoiler tags use javascript. If you change javascript settings from being automatically enabled, it won't load the spoilers.
This is not true, spoilers will still be loaded.
lerjars: Many many people use Chrome and you seem to be the only one who has this problem. In any case, you are the first one who is complaining. What's there to discuss? Fix the problem on your end. Apart from that why would you post that in here, a thread about a new NSFW rule?
Hmmm, if you disable javascript all spoiler tags won't do anything if you click them. So displaying it definitely uses javascript. But I checked the headers, and the images are indeed loaded. That's kind of bad design. If the script itself outputted the forum code, there would be no problem.
Just put it inside the onclick handler, which already exists.
Some utilities: Image block add-on. Just toggle each page to load automatically or manually. Smart idea if you're on a work computer. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5613 Or in firefox go to Tool-Option-Content-Exceptions (to the right of Load images automatically).
On February 13 2010 06:38 CharlieMurphy wrote: I use firefox and I don't recall images in spoilers loading before spoilers.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but the point is that in Firefox an image already loads when its yet hidden by a spoiler tag. So even though you dont click on the spoiler tag when it says NSFW, the network traffic will still show you accessing xxxgirlwithadick.jpg. (Try spoilering some large image, and wait a little before opening the tag, you will see that it appears right away, as proof that its not starting loading only when you click the spoiler. Try the same from a different browser, you will not find the same.)
On February 12 2010 07:07 larjarse wrote: Tired of switching browsers and just want to use the simple and safe Google Chrome browser? Would you like to fix it? Lets talk about it.
I and quite a few others use Chrome and have no problems so I don't know what you want to talk about. We have a browser discussion thread going every now and then and It was never mentioned once.
On topic, I love the moderators here and this rule is great. Btw I visited teamliquid every now and then on my first day at work. Day 2 it was blocked lol.
On February 14 2010 17:29 MasterOfChaos wrote: I think we should change the way the spoilers work, so FF doesn't preload. And demand that people put NSFW in the spoiler description.
nuuuu I like that feature Just make your monkies make a new NSFW code :D
On February 14 2010 17:29 MasterOfChaos wrote: I think we should change the way the spoilers work, so FF doesn't preload. And demand that people put NSFW in the spoiler description.
nuuuu I like that feature Just make your monkies make a new NSFW code :D
The monkeys work on TSL, TSLD, TLPD, SC2 Beta, and VODs. Making new code so you nerds can keep posting furry porn is a bit further down the priority list :-)
On February 14 2010 17:29 MasterOfChaos wrote: I think we should change the way the spoilers work, so FF doesn't preload. And demand that people put NSFW in the spoiler description.
nuuuu I like that feature Just make your monkies make a new NSFW code :D
The monkeys work on TSL, TSLD, TLPD, SC2 Beta, and VODs. Making new code so you nerds can keep posting furry porn is a bit further down the priority list :-)
Open the spoiler code to the public, and maybe someone can fix it.
On February 14 2010 17:29 MasterOfChaos wrote: I think we should change the way the spoilers work, so FF doesn't preload. And demand that people put NSFW in the spoiler description.
nuuuu I like that feature Just make your monkies make a new NSFW code :D
The monkeys work on TSL, TSLD, TLPD, SC2 Beta, and VODs. Making new code so you nerds can keep posting furry porn is a bit further down the priority list :-)
Open the spoiler code to the public, and maybe someone can fix it.
Agreed. I think this NSFW business can be easily solved with some fancy code.
On February 13 2010 20:00 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I demand additional explanation quoted directly to me with several references to my posting history in various other unrelated discussions!
On February 14 2010 17:29 MasterOfChaos wrote: I think we should change the way the spoilers work, so FF doesn't preload. And demand that people put NSFW in the spoiler description.
nuuuu I like that feature Just make your monkies make a new NSFW code :D
The monkeys work on TSL, TSLD, TLPD, SC2 Beta, and VODs. Making new code so you nerds can keep posting furry porn is a bit further down the priority list :-)
Open the spoiler code to the public, and maybe someone can fix it.
Agreed. I think this NSFW business can be easily solved with some fancy code.
no, just type NSFW as per every other website in the universe. thanks.
On February 13 2010 20:00 {88}iNcontroL wrote: THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!
Using valuable space in my thread title and properly categorizing images that are explicit is ridiculous!
I demand additional explanation quoted directly to me with several references to my posting history in various other unrelated discussions!
I haven't read your other posts, but I take it that they are explicit. But don't worry about taking up the title length; articles are more fun when the title is vague anyway.
On February 14 2010 17:29 MasterOfChaos wrote: I think we should change the way the spoilers work, so FF doesn't preload. And demand that people put NSFW in the spoiler description.
nuuuu I like that feature Just make your monkies make a new NSFW code :D
The monkeys work on TSL, TSLD, TLPD, SC2 Beta, and VODs. Making new code so you nerds can keep posting furry porn is a bit further down the priority list :-)
Open the spoiler code to the public, and maybe someone can fix it.
Agreed. I think this NSFW business can be easily solved with some fancy code.
no, just type NSFW as per every other website in the universe. thanks.
How do you know other theoretical races in other galaxies doesn't use some kind of internet too? HUH
On February 14 2010 17:29 MasterOfChaos wrote: I think we should change the way the spoilers work, so FF doesn't preload. And demand that people put NSFW in the spoiler description.
nuuuu I like that feature Just make your monkies make a new NSFW code :D
The monkeys work on TSL, TSLD, TLPD, SC2 Beta, and VODs. Making new code so you nerds can keep posting furry porn is a bit further down the priority list :-)
Open the spoiler code to the public, and maybe someone can fix it.
Agreed. I think this NSFW business can be easily solved with some fancy code.
no, just type NSFW as per every other website in the universe. thanks.
How do you know other theoretical races in other galaxies doesn't use some kind of internet too? HUH
Well, the Zerg are all connected by the overmind, so I guess that could count as such. Not too sure about the Protoss, but Archons probably have some stories to tell.
I noticed there is some fuss in the SFW Random Pics That Make You Laugh thread about us possibly no longer being able to post NSFW (or simply "pornographic" according to some posters) images on TL. Has the NSFW policy actually changed, or is this still the go-to thread for NSFW policy? For instance, the NSFW Random Pics thread was only locked, so it's still 100% accessible.
As far as I know what has changed is the adsense ads have something to do with google ToS which in turn doesn't like any nude or sexual images. So yes, there has been a shift.
1. TL.net derive its operating revenue from ads. 2. The ad placement came from Google. 3. In order to qualify as an advertising partner with Google, this site shall not contain pornographic, extreme violence or other NSFW material? 4. Thus, mods at TL bans NSFW material to collect ad revenue
On February 14 2010 17:29 MasterOfChaos wrote: I think we should change the way the spoilers work, so FF doesn't preload. And demand that people put NSFW in the spoiler description.
nuuuu I like that feature Just make your monkies make a new NSFW code :D
The monkeys work on TSL, TSLD, TLPD, SC2 Beta, and VODs. Making new code so you nerds can keep posting furry porn is a bit further down the priority list :-)
On July 20 2010 13:53 dybydx wrote: ok let me take a guess....
1. TL.net derive its operating revenue from ads. 2. The ad placement came from Google. 3. In order to qualify as an advertising partner with Google, this site shall not contain pornographic, extreme violence or other NSFW material? 4. Thus, mods at TL bans NSFW material to collect ad revenue
On July 20 2010 13:53 dybydx wrote: ok let me take a guess....
1. TL.net derive its operating revenue from ads. 2. The ad placement came from Google. 3. In order to qualify as an advertising partner with Google, this site shall not contain pornographic, extreme violence or other NSFW material? 4. Thus, mods at TL bans NSFW material to collect ad revenue
On July 20 2010 13:53 dybydx wrote: ok let me take a guess....
1. TL.net derive its operating revenue from ads. 2. The ad placement came from Google. 3. In order to qualify as an advertising partner with Google, this site shall not contain pornographic, extreme violence or other NSFW material? 4. Thus, mods at TL bans NSFW material to collect ad revenue
just curious now, since we know that majority of TL fans are guys and so is majority of ppl who watch porn. doesnt TL and porn kinda go hand in hand like SC and poker?
i m sure Axe and Old Spice bodywash, Viagra, Malboro, Coors etc would all love to advertise on TL if we get more pr0n here.
On July 20 2010 15:02 dybydx wrote: just curious now, since we know that majority of TL fans are guys and so is majority of ppl who watch porn. doesnt TL and porn kinda go hand in hand like SC and poker?
i m sure Axe and Old Spice bodywash, Viagra, Malboro, Coors etc would all love to advertise on TL if we get more pr0n here.
On July 20 2010 15:02 dybydx wrote: just curious now, since we know that majority of TL fans are guys and so is majority of ppl who watch porn. doesnt TL and porn kinda go hand in hand like SC and poker?
i m sure Axe and Old Spice bodywash, Viagra, Malboro, Coors etc would all love to advertise on TL if we get more pr0n here.
Viagra TSL. Contact them, make it happen.
hahahaha , Viagra... making immortal shields harder
The actual Google ToS language we're dealing with: "You shall not...(v) display any Ad(s), Link(s), or Referral Button(s) on any Web page or any Web site that contains any pornographic, hate-related, violent, or illegal content;"
It is very, very vague for the middle two, but those aren't the concern here. I've seen some people say that sexual content is the issue, but sexual and pornographic are not the same. Banning all sexual content would be expanding the forbidden material significantly beyond what is required.
Also, I'd prefer to see a Trojan TSL. "Tougher than a Terran contain!"
Edit: This thread is now about slogans for the next TSL : P
yo i'm sure if it came down to it, TL would EASILY be able to collect enough donations to keep the site running. "IF" it came down to it. which it probably never will have to resort to ;p
TL is able to support itself quite easily with the google ad sense. It is against Google ToS for us to have pornographic images on the site. Thus, no nudie pix.
That plus naked girls would cause people to spend even MORE time on the site haha.
On July 20 2010 18:02 dybydx wrote: i m curious, if google ToS do not allow pornographic images, where do google get their image results for the word "porn"?
The Google search engine AND the google Ad-Sense program are two different entities with different rules.
They are much more strict with their ads and anyone can report a website with illegal content ad-sens-wise. They ban you easily and it's a pain to be unbanned from their program.
EPT
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