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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
January 21 2010 16:41 GMT
#101
I could have sworn that I read "Whoever clicks this thread is a Pedophile".. when i clicked the thread....wops?
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 16:50:08
January 21 2010 16:49 GMT
#102
On January 22 2010 01:22 Dracid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 19:47 edahl wrote:
Haduken, great post. Very interesting to hear, it coincides very well with my overall impression of these things. Especially considering that every time there's a thread on China here, some guy (usually from China) comes along and says something like "yeah, that's totally just western bias", even though it clearly isn't. Deprivation of freedom is deprivation of freedom, wherever you are, and the Chinese government have shown they are not interested in discussion on any terms but exclusively their own. Which makes it clear that China is in the news for the same reasons North Korea would be if we knew what ever even happened there.


That's because there clearly is bias. Western media does not cover both sides of the issue for pretty much any topic regarding China.

The thing is, haduken is right. There are many problems with China and its government. The difference between haduken and pretty much everybody else that criticizes China however, is that he actually knows what he's talking about.



Exactly. Though I've pretty much given up the idea that there is any chance of intelligent debate in any thread regarding China. Too many idiots who somehow tries to claim that they would know more about what's good for the people and what's going on in a country despite never having even stepped foot there. It's pretty amazing. Amazingly retarded.

What it really comes down to, is this. Some people are very very petty in life and have nothing better to do than bitch about another country to make themselves feel better.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 21 2010 16:49 GMT
#103
On January 21 2010 12:18 StarsPride wrote:
this is what happens when government thinks for people.
This is why i love"d" america


This is why you love any country which is not China and the likes. No wait, USA is the only free country in the world you're so special
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 16:53:44
January 21 2010 16:51 GMT
#104
On January 22 2010 01:49 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 12:18 StarsPride wrote:
this is what happens when government thinks for people.
This is why i love"d" america


This is why you love any country which is not China and the likes. No wait, USA is the only free country in the world you're so special



Yeah the government doesn't think for the people at all here ... xD

And LOL at people thinking that the civil rights movement and protests in the US have been peaceful.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 19:43:14
January 21 2010 19:42 GMT
#105
updated OP with info for the Mods since they enjoy this thread so much.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
sassy
Profile Joined December 2009
240 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 19:50:15
January 21 2010 19:49 GMT
#106
meanwhile

article

i dont know if someone got enough time on their hands to make this news, its interesting regardless
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
January 21 2010 19:52 GMT
#107
On January 22 2010 04:49 sassy wrote:
meanwhile

article

i dont know if someone got enough time on their hands to make this news, its interesting regardless

No, he is just one of the 2k chinese people that gets sentenced to death each year, if he was not chinese, either american or englishman then it would had been news.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
sassy
Profile Joined December 2009
240 Posts
January 21 2010 20:01 GMT
#108
On January 22 2010 04:52 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 04:49 sassy wrote:
meanwhile

article

i dont know if someone got enough time on their hands to make this news, its interesting regardless

No, he is just one of the 2k chinese people that gets sentenced to death each year, if he was not chinese, either american or englishman then it would had been news.


but but

he killed a man

dont you think this could open up an interesting debate? Maybe he did a "right thing", but its still a crime, isnt it?
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 20:02:34
January 21 2010 20:02 GMT
#109
I think it is kinda weird that people have to kill corrupted politicians to get rid of them.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
January 21 2010 20:37 GMT
#110
On January 22 2010 01:41 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 18:17 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 21 2010 18:03 7Strife wrote:
You could defend that with anything. I could rape and pillage a village of children then go on a rant and tell everyone to think out of the box a little like you.


You could, but because no one else will agree with you, that won't get you anywhere except life in jail.

You get a life in jail because morality isn't arbitrary. Hence his point.


If everyone in his community agreed with his set of morals, then it becomes the new "right" thing to do. Morality changes. It used to be moral, even obligatory, to beat your wife. Is it now? No. Because morality changes, rather arbitrarily at times. It used to be moral to own slaves. Then people decided no, that's wrong, and now, slavery is illegal in the US. If you think morality has always been static, then you have not noticed any of the changes that have occurred in history.
TranslatorBaa!
Idig
Profile Joined January 2010
China10 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 06:16:38
January 22 2010 06:15 GMT
#111
On January 21 2010 12:15 Licmyobelisk wrote:
wow, China's almost like that movie "Equilibruim" or like a little bit of North Korea

Maybe it's like the movie "1984" more. There are less and less words which can be used.
It is a good day to die.
lOvOlUNiMEDiA
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 06:33:38
January 22 2010 06:31 GMT
#112
On January 22 2010 05:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 01:41 L wrote:
On January 21 2010 18:17 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 21 2010 18:03 7Strife wrote:
You could defend that with anything. I could rape and pillage a village of children then go on a rant and tell everyone to think out of the box a little like you.


You could, but because no one else will agree with you, that won't get you anywhere except life in jail.

You get a life in jail because morality isn't arbitrary. Hence his point.


If everyone in his community agreed with his set of morals, then it becomes the new "right" thing to do. Morality changes. It used to be moral, even obligatory, to beat your wife. Is it now? No. Because morality changes, rather arbitrarily at times. It used to be moral to own slaves. Then people decided no, that's wrong, and now, slavery is illegal in the US. If you think morality has always been static, then you have not noticed any of the changes that have occurred in history.


I think that the interesting question is "WHY" morality changes as it does. Is it random? Is it a result of a dialectic (of either the idealistic or materialistic kind)? Is it, simply, a result of the accumulation of knowledge (morality as scientific?)

edit: typo
To say that I'm missing the point, you would first have to show that such work can have a point.
lOvOlUNiMEDiA
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States643 Posts
January 22 2010 06:39 GMT
#113
On January 22 2010 05:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 01:41 L wrote:
On January 21 2010 18:17 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 21 2010 18:03 7Strife wrote:
You could defend that with anything. I could rape and pillage a village of children then go on a rant and tell everyone to think out of the box a little like you.


You could, but because no one else will agree with you, that won't get you anywhere except life in jail.

You get a life in jail because morality isn't arbitrary. Hence his point.


If everyone in his community agreed with his set of morals, then it becomes the new "right" thing to do. Morality changes. It used to be moral, even obligatory, to beat your wife. Is it now? No. Because morality changes, rather arbitrarily at times. It used to be moral to own slaves. Then people decided no, that's wrong, and now, slavery is illegal in the US. If you think morality has always been static, then you have not noticed any of the changes that have occurred in history.


Oh, and sheep, I don't know if this (what I describe below) is your position, but if it is I think it is wrong. The idea that the moral views of the "Majority" dictate the rules of society is wrong. The first example that comes to mind is Ancient Sparta. This was a society where the minority ruled and the 'morality' of the minority is what prevailed (for a time). So, I think that your position should not be that "the majority" is what dictates morality but, instead, the most powerful group. I think in many cases the most powerful group is the majority -- but that is not necessarily true. This is a danger now because the level of power that can be attained by any particular group with the proper wealth and technology is frightening. In the west there are institutional checks on this power accumulation. I imagine there is something similar in China -- but I don't know.
To say that I'm missing the point, you would first have to show that such work can have a point.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17851 Posts
January 22 2010 11:52 GMT
#114
They could completely ban text messages all over the world and I wouldn't be affected in the slightest.
I would even be happy as I wouldn't be getting all this stupid ads.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
January 22 2010 11:54 GMT
#115
Big deal, they'll just learn to use "codes" when talking in sms and everything will be the same.
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 22 2010 12:14 GMT
#116
When I was in China, I got like 423425 text spam/porn messages from ppl I dont even know... lol
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 22 2010 12:17 GMT
#117
On January 22 2010 20:54 Pika Chu wrote:
Big deal, they'll just learn to use "codes" when talking in sms and everything will be the same.

So all it actually stops is the spam and the porn?

It's like the law does what it's ostensibly set out to do!
Moderator
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3578 Posts
January 22 2010 12:18 GMT
#118
Its so ironic how people really overestimate the influence the government in china has on its people

Its almost the other way around, the government has very little influence in the general direction of the public and how they go about daily life and business. Its mostly dog eat dog and get on with your own damn life, because the government isnt going to step in and help you out.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 22 2010 13:46 GMT
#119
On January 22 2010 21:14 emucxg wrote:
When I was in China, I got like 423425 text spam/porn messages from ppl I dont even know... lol


Then this might actually be good
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
January 22 2010 14:17 GMT
#120
On January 22 2010 22:46 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 21:14 emucxg wrote:
When I was in China, I got like 423425 text spam/porn messages from ppl I dont even know... lol


Then this might actually be good


Cause, you know, that's not what I was saying for like the past 3 pages.
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