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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
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Artunit
Philippines399 Posts
On August 25 2013 00:48 Saechiis wrote: I'm thinking of buying an e-cigarette for my mom (and possibly for my brother and father if it proves helpful). I've seen Wheat and Tasteless use them and I've done a little research on their pros and cons, but I don't smoke myself so I'm not really sure what I'm looking for here. Anyone have experience using e-cigarettes? Does it help smoke less/ stop? Is it practical? Recommendations as to which one I should buy? Thanks in advance! Hi, yeah it helps me smoke a little for few weeks but after some time I just missed the real cigarettes and just doubled my cost buying cigarette + e-juice on a regular basis. I think it is more practical than real cigarette if you decided to stick to it and just a advice buy different kinds of flavors for the person you want to give it to coz if they stick to 1 flavor they will just go back to real cigarettes faster, atleast that is the case for me since I only bought 1 flavor since I really liked it at start. Btw e-juices has many kind of nicotine content options depending on you what you want. There is 0 mg that has 0 nicotine content and 6 mg that has a little and 12, 16,18. For a smoker I guess 6mg for a start is good. Also I think there is a marlboro red flavor on different nicotine content packages and there is a deep blue flavor which equals the marlboro menthol. Edit: I just want to add that I know many people who thought e-cigarette would lessen their smoking and can eventually totally quit but failed but ofcourse it still depends on the person since on the otherhand I know some people too that totally stopped smoking after using e-cigarette. | ||
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teer
United States189 Posts
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Artunit
Philippines399 Posts
On August 25 2013 01:45 teer wrote: It is practical but could get extremely expensive if you become a collector of all the different mods and devices available. The only initial starting problem is finding the proper strength and flavor combinations. If you find yourself still craving a cig then you need to up the nicotine strength. I used to smoke 1-2 pack a day and found that 24mg nicotine was the sweet spot when i first started then I gradually worked my way lower (currently using 12-18mg). The most user friendly and easy to use would be carto based. A couple websites would be Vapor4life and Bloog. I have purchased from both these places and they are both respectable. Yeah good point forgot to mention the mods and devices collecting since it generally can be a another type of addiction. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On August 25 2013 01:54 Artunit wrote: Yeah good point forgot to mention the mods and devices collecting since it generally can be a another type of addiction. Hahaha. I never thought about that stuff. I use this: http://greensmartliving.com/ It's kinda cheap and about the size of a regular cigarette so it's easy to take anywhere. I generally like it because I can smoke indoors and I like the flavors (peach and vanilla are really good). As far as the amount of nicotine, I'm not too sure how to give "advice on it" cuz I never got heavy into cigarettes (1 pack a month or so). | ||
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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
^^ djwheat ecig guide. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
Here's my 2 cents. Don't get Blu or any of those little cigarette sized ecigs. They're fucking worthless! They may be small but thats what makes them awful. They've got no power, don't make enough vapor, the battery is dinky, its like sucking on a little piece of plastic. If you really want to switch then you're going to have to have something that gets the job done. It might be bigger but thats the price you pay for actually having something that'll deal with the cravings. First step I'd say see if there's any ecig shops in your area. Go there, and try out stuff, take your mom with if you want her to test things and get a feel for it. Try the flavors, try the devices, there's a trillion more flavors online. You'll probably start with something tobacco flavored like I did but I quickly switched to Pomegranate since why not vape something that tastes good. You're not tied to tobacco flavor anymore so experiment. Recommendations for starting I'd go with a standard Ego style. Its generic so most stuff will fit on it. Most likely it'll come with an atomizer which is fine but you'll do a ton of refilling which gets annoying and is impossible to do while driving unless you want to kill someone. I'd recommend an iclear clearomizer which will hold plenty of juice for you. Depending how much you vape it'll last somewhere from 1/2 a day to a full day per tank. Easy to fill, good clean hit, it works very well. Also something to consider if you want to vape from your desk is getting your ego with a USB pass thru battery so you can just have it plugged in and rip all day long. The standard way of charging is to screw the tank off and screw your battery onto a charger, a pass thru saves all that. You can get into mods and variable voltage and all that fancy shit but just an ego setup with an iclear will get the job done, its a good starting point. Go to a shop, try everything out, have a pricepoint in mind because the crazy shit gets crazy expensive. Nicotine wise I'm surely taking in more nicotine than before I switched because its easy to chain vape. You can do the thing where you drop down the level and ween yourself off but kicking nicotine is going to suck ballsack any way you cut it. The links are all for my local shop so prices can vary obviously depending on where you get your shit. Smokes here are ~$6-7 a pack you're looking at ~$200 a month for a pack a day. Right now I'll do a 60ml bottle of 20mg Pomegranate a month, and 2 or 3 replacement heads for my clearomizer a month. $35 for the juice $3.50 each head is $45.50 a month. I can breathe better, I can taste WAYYYYYYYYY fucking better, no shitty smell, I don't get cravings. I can actually smell cigarettes now lol. Find a store and try some stuff out for yourself. If I didn't have a place so close to me I probably wouldn't have tried again after that Blu piece of shit. There's a ton of options out there now. | ||
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Poonchow
United States56 Posts
I can breathe better, I can taste WAYYYYYYYYY fucking better, no shitty smell, I don't get cravings. I can actually smell cigarettes now lol. I can attest to that. I can smell a cigarette from a car sitting 20 feet away with my windows up. I can't stand the smell, now, and my roommate still smokes. I started vaping in January, had no intentions to quit analogs, and instantly fell in love. I gave away my last pack of cigarettes and never looked back. I was smoking about 1/2 pack to 1 pack a day. Funny enough, I still had cravings for analogs for about 2 weeks, no matter how much nicotine I was vaping. I remember reading a while ago that the only additives tobacco companies put in their cigarettes are in the paper, everything else is water + different strains of tobacco, but I call bullshit. That shit is something powerful. Nicotine, for me, is like a slightly stronger version of caffeine: I get a headache after half a day or so of no nicotine, but I don't wake up and feel like I need it. I vape 18mg and don't feel owned by it like cigarettes used to have on me. Stress, food, and alcohol don't really hit the craving switch like cigarettes did. Mint + any fruit flavor is just fantastic in terms of taste, and I would recommend ecigs 100% to anyone who currently smokes to try out a setup that OuchyDathurts suggested. Alternatively, reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarettes has a wealth of resources in terms of buying guides, discounts, and suggestions for beginners. You have to do a little bit more planning, allocating, and the up-front cost might seem steep, but if you are intelligent about what you buy, you can save a ton of money over analogs. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
My dad still smokes and the smell doesn't bug me. It's just something that didn't register for years. When you first start smoking you know what cigarette smoke smells like but once you get used to it it just doesn't register anymore. Hot food is also way more noticeable for me, that's probably the biggest change taste wise. Stuff that wasn't that hot before is now like holy shit lol. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17257 Posts
I tried e-cigs after 15 years of smoking and they didn't do it for me. Carrots are the way to go. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On August 25 2013 16:32 Manit0u wrote: I wonder how people who were smoking menthols react to e-cigs. Menthol cigarettes are 2x more addicting than regular ones (menthol activating the same receptors as nicotine, doubling the effect). I tried e-cigs after 15 years of smoking and they didn't do it for me. Carrots are the way to go. I'm not sure, i always hated menthols personally and don't know anyone closely who smoked them. I know there's some flavors but not sure how they work. I tried the carrots thing. Tried gum which is dreadful. Tried cold turkey. Tried quitting on vacation so I wouldn't have people annoying me forcing me back into the habit but I was too stressed about being on vacation so that didn't work lol. I never cared that I smoked, it never bothered me at all. It wasn't some like concern that I stop or anything. I tried the Blu for shits and giggles and while its fucking awful you sort of get the idea that "well, if this thing wasn't a piece of shit, but I can see how this would actually get the job done if it was done properly." After 10 years I was like fuck it, i'll try and quit, 10 years seems like a milestone. | ||
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Xiao KA
Denmark34 Posts
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Audemed
United States893 Posts
On August 25 2013 16:47 Xiao KA wrote: Just quit, it's not that hard if you really want to That's the thing, most of us DON'T want to, we kind of need to. I started with my e-cig about 6 months ago, to try to wean myself off tobacco, didn't work. However, in the past few weeks I've started running again (fatty), and i thit me pretty hard how much the smoking had taken a toll. So, over the past 2 weeks I've had a total of 4 real cigarettes, and have gone through almost a pack of cartridges for my e-cig. It's not the same, that's for sure, and you certainly end up using more, but god it's nice to not be smelly. That said, I do still miss the tobacco  | ||
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NSGrendel
United Kingdom235 Posts
But your mileage will vary and people smoke for different reasons. The only reason I started smoking tobacco in the first place was because weed is illegal. So something that mimics the mechanics works well for me. | ||
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NSGrendel
United Kingdom235 Posts
On August 25 2013 16:32 Manit0u wrote: I wonder how people who were smoking menthols react to e-cigs. Menthol cigarettes are 2x more addicting than regular ones (menthol activating the same receptors as nicotine, doubling the effect). I tried e-cigs after 15 years of smoking and they didn't do it for me. Carrots are the way to go. I'd love to see where the data for this comes from. Not saying it's not true, it's just that I've swapped back and forth between regular tobacco and menthol and never noticed a difference. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On August 25 2013 16:47 Xiao KA wrote: Just quit, it's not that hard if you really want to No it's not. Try quitting video games for 1year... Even if you are not an addict. It will be hard. Imagine when the stuff is medically addicting I started "vaping" (i hate that word) since 2month. I still smoke at work and sometimes at noon but while i would have a smoke between each match in SC2 i do vaping so i don't do 5 or 6smoke an hour (6pool ftw. It makes you smoke guys). Really with a 12mg dosage it's sometime hard not to get a smoke but it can do it. I mean, got a sunday without any real cigarette. Just the esig. The only thing that it's SHIT. Is when you drive. I just can "vape" while driving. It's not practical. | ||
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Rimstalker
Germany734 Posts
On August 25 2013 16:47 Xiao KA wrote: Just quit, it's not that hard if you really want to Just recently I stumbled across a quora discussion about insights from various job fields. Someone from a addiction treatment/mental health institution background chimed in and said nicotine is the hardest of all drug addictions to quit. http://www.quora.com/Jobs-1/Whats-something-that-is-common-knowledge-at-your-work-place-but-will-be-mind-blowing-to-the-rest-of-us quote Substance abuse program- My patients quit every kind of drug known. The hardest drug for them to quit is nicotine. Smoking. | ||
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
On August 30 2013 00:09 Rimstalker wrote: Just recently I stumbled across a quora discussion about insights from various job fields. Someone from a addiction treatment/mental health institution background chimed in and said nicotine is the hardest of all drug addictions to quit. http://www.quora.com/Jobs-1/Whats-something-that-is-common-knowledge-at-your-work-place-but-will-be-mind-blowing-to-the-rest-of-us quote Substance abuse program- My patients quit every kind of drug known. The hardest drug for them to quit is nicotine. Smoking. It's not that nicotine is the most chemically addictive substance on earth, but rather the legality of it, the seeming harmlessness of it, the comparatively long-term habituation associated with it, the social aspect of smoking, that makes it - SO GOD DAMN HARD TO QUIT. I mean, it's not like you can legally obtain heroin and shoot it up on the street, you know how that shit is bad for you, you won't find many shooting it up outside of niche circles of sketchy people, and just how many IV heroin users manage to keep the habit for 20 years? FFS, for me personally e-cigs just don't satisfy my cravings; I enjoy the sensation of a real cig drag - the burn or "massage" as I'd like to call it, down my throat. Been trying to cut down on smoking, went from 1/2 pack a day to 1/3 a day but sometimes I'd still have these binges when I chain a pack a night playing SC2 Damn now that I think about it, SC2 and smoking go hand in hand so well, and is probably one of the reasons as to why I can't quit. A celebratory cig after a nice win for additional dopamine pleasures, and a consolatory cig after a loss to pat myself on the back - I don't even feel like queuing up the next game if I don't have a cig lit. Anyone feel the same way? | ||
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teer
United States189 Posts
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