On January 04 2010 08:11 prOxi.swAMi wrote: What I'm curious about is why nobody seems to have created a cigarette which has nicotine but none of the other harsh chemicals that cause death... Surely there's good money to be made around that idea... Yet we see nothing. Does anybody know much about this?
Natural American Spirit. They taste awful but are additive-free (or so they claim). They are also ridiculously expensive.
I'm not sure what you mean about harsh chemicals that cause death though. The smoke in and of itself is pretty bad.
i think american spirits taste great. They're the only cigs that hit the spot for me since they dont sell Mild Sevens (japanese brand) in my area
Great way to introduce tobacco to a younger generation. It clearly states: "Not as dangerous, but well sill get you addicted and steal your money". I think they should be banned. As a smoker myself I know how hard it is to quit. No need to introduce new people to tobacco!
On January 04 2010 08:11 prOxi.swAMi wrote: What I'm curious about is why nobody seems to have created a cigarette which has nicotine but none of the other harsh chemicals that cause death... Surely there's good money to be made around that idea... Yet we see nothing. Does anybody know much about this?
Natural American Spirit. They taste awful but are additive-free (or so they claim). They are also ridiculously expensive.
I'm not sure what you mean about harsh chemicals that cause death though. The smoke in and of itself is pretty bad.
i think american spirits taste great. They're the only cigs that hit the spot for me since they dont sell Mild Sevens (japanese brand) in my area
I always smoke mild seven aswell. I think theyre owned by Marlbro, atleast theyre refering to the malbro health page on their packs. I heard a russian friend could buy them in Moscow, strange that they dont sell them in the states. :/
The E-cigarrete byproducts are nicotine and Propylene glycol.
Propylene glycol is considered a safe ingredient and is widely used in cosmetic products and ingested products like food and pharmaceuticals. It is on the US Food and Drug Administration's list of ingredients which are Generally Recognized As Safe (GRAS) and is recognized by the World Health Organization as safe for use.
The only bad thing about this is that you get addicted to nicotine.
i had some... whats the point though... they cant replace real cigs- it's not the same. there are better ways of quitting- stop buying cigs and you're done. as easy as that.
Tried it, pretty fucking disappointing. I thought it was a great idea to help me quit or at least change my smoking habits (i was tired of always smelling like smoke and feeling lazy and winded after a cigarette) since the gum/patch didn't quite fulfill the oral fixation of a real cigarette but it just wasn't the same. It left a little bit of a weird taste in your mouth after you inhale and it just wouldn't quench the craving. It felt like a novelty item because I didn't have to go outside to smoke but that only lasted a few days.
Random note, I quit one week ago and for some reason it just worked this time. I had the gum for the first 4 days but then was fine after that. I'm happy that I don't have to pay $20+ a week for cigarettes anymore.
On January 04 2010 12:14 AtlaS wrote: Tried it, pretty fucking disappointing. I thought it was a great idea to help me quit or at least change my smoking habits (i was tired of always smelling like smoke and feeling lazy and winded after a cigarette) since the gum/patch didn't quite fulfill the oral fixation of a real cigarette but it just wasn't the same. It left a little bit of a weird taste in your mouth after you inhale and it just wouldn't quench the craving. It felt like a novelty item because I didn't have to go outside to smoke but that only lasted a few days.
Random note, I quit one week ago and for some reason it just worked this time. I had the gum for the first 4 days but then was fine after that. I'm happy that I don't have to pay $20+ a week for cigarettes anymore.
Thats good for you. I'm trying to quit as well. Can u share some useful tips that help quit smoking?
my friend has a nice one. it works really well. it basically vaporizes nicotine. its kind of weird at the beginning but you get the nicotine fix without the combustion of tobacco (no tar) its great in weaning yoruself off real cigarettes, but do your research. dont buy a piece of shit one.
My friend's father sells them here in Hawaii, they're pretty cool. It's no substitute for a real cigarette, but if you just want a puff or two every now and then they're really convenient. You don't have to carry a lighter, you don't smell like smoke, it's less harmful on your lungs and other people can't bum from you. He smokes them while we play poker once in a while, when we're not smoking real ones.
Fun item, but they definitely don't replace real cigs.
Also, I just quit smoking, and basically it comes down to convincing yourself that you don't smoke anymore. If you can do that, you can look at a half-pack of cigarettes and say "I don't smoke, why do I need these?" and just throw them out. If you can throw out a half-pack, all you have to do is not buy another. It's really simple to quit, but it's really simple to slip up, too.
Don't be a pussy. Smoke or don't smoke, don't delude yourself into thinking you "want to quit" or that you're "thinking about it."
Nicotine isn't the only active ingredient in cigarettes, and I don't think it's solely responsible for addiction. Might help some people start quitting though.
On January 04 2010 12:14 AtlaS wrote: Tried it, pretty fucking disappointing. I thought it was a great idea to help me quit or at least change my smoking habits (i was tired of always smelling like smoke and feeling lazy and winded after a cigarette) since the gum/patch didn't quite fulfill the oral fixation of a real cigarette but it just wasn't the same. It left a little bit of a weird taste in your mouth after you inhale and it just wouldn't quench the craving. It felt like a novelty item because I didn't have to go outside to smoke but that only lasted a few days.
Random note, I quit one week ago and for some reason it just worked this time. I had the gum for the first 4 days but then was fine after that. I'm happy that I don't have to pay $20+ a week for cigarettes anymore.
Thats good for you. I'm trying to quit as well. Can u share some useful tips that help quit smoking?
The gum helps a lot but it also has failed me many times in the past. I also primarily only smoked in my car so I made sure that I cleared out all the lighters and did everything in my willpower to not buy a pack when passing a gas station. It's all about rearranging and relearning all of the activities that you associate smoking with. That and the motivation to actually quit. Something just finally hit me this time.
On January 04 2010 08:11 prOxi.swAMi wrote: What I'm curious about is why nobody seems to have created a cigarette which has nicotine but none of the other harsh chemicals that cause death... Surely there's good money to be made around that idea... Yet we see nothing. Does anybody know much about this?
Cigarettes without the tobacco is like watching porn instead of having sex.
When I quit smoking I had just bought a new lighter and two packs of cigarettes. Then I thought, to hell with it and threw them in the trashcan outside the store.
That was more then two years ago. I wanted to start again badly a few times but since I since I had thrown away perfectly fine cigarettes It would be a total failure.
Oh and my granmother died from sickness related to smoking a year ago, I made the right choice, yay!
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