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Bought a KeCig K100+ with a cotton drip coil atomizer (is that even the right way to say it?) plus charger and 2 stock batteries for $25 from a friend who had it as his backup. Went to the vape store he recommended right next to my school where they fix cotton and coils for free whenever I need them. Bought clove flavor (20mg nicotine per ml) because I had been importing and chain smoking cartons of Djarum Supers (32mg tar/1.8mg nicotine per cig with no FSC) from Indonesia (clove cigs illegal in USA.) Also bought a better battery.
Basically when I ran out of cloves I bought a pack of normal cigs to continue my 3 year smoking "career" and couldn't handle how disgusting the taste was compared to a clove cigarette anymore. Didn't want to drop 160 on three cartons of Supers again and wait a week for shipping...
Realized my skin looked like shit because of 3 years of smoking, 2 of about a pack a day, always full flavored never lights...
Only on day 4 of vaping but already my skin looks better and I feel like my lung capacity has increased. Pretty amazing. Haven't smoked a cigarette in 4 days, no real urge as this pen hits hard with the 20mg. Eyes feel better because I don't get smoke near them anymore, smell better... even noticing I have more saliva haha. Hoping that I stay off analogues for life.
In short so far so good with vaping!
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Ruthless Jungle Fever is pretty tasty. Anyone taste any of the other Ruthless flavors they'd like to recommend?
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On March 15 2014 04:21 ComaDose wrote:
well yeah i figured that burning tobacco would have more carcinogens then oil. wouldn't it still be better then normal cigs tho? and for smoking weed too i use a pipe but wouldn't this be better? I just thought it was cool how you can put either into it. but i appreciate the advice about going for higher quality. What did you mean by cigalike versus vaporizer? i thought that thing was a vape. just oil?
It's still better than normal cigs but... here's a pm I just answered on the subject:
Anything that resembles an actual cigarette in form like the blu e-cigarettes. You want something with an ego-style threading. If you're starting off in ecigs I'd recommend an iTaste vv v3.0 (my first vv/vw, probably best bang-for-buck) or an ego twist. Check out this subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/ if you wanna know more. Basically the cigalikes are meant to resemble actual cigarettes but they do a very crappy job and have been shown to have far more dangerous ingredients than a regular ecig that takes juices. They don't taste nearly as good either. Honestly I'd recommend the iTaste vv v3.0 as a personal carry to even a veteran and the price for the whole kit is like 40-60 bucks depending on sales. From there it's just getting a good atomizer and juices you like. If you're in a metro area you should be able to find a vape shop nearby that will allow you to sample juices and find a flavor you like using a house ecig, I'd go in to check out flavors and see what fits you. I think you'll be much more satisfied if you spend an extra 30 bucks. It'll last waaaaaaaaaaaaaay longer and you'll get your hands wet on the ecig game. The cigalikes are cashing in on people who don't do their research first. Good luck, lemme know if you want more info or advice!
I've done a lot of research on this topic (doing my master's thesis on nicotine) and the levels of carcinogens found in those blu e-cigs and other cigalikes is far greater than those found in devices at the ego twist level or higher. There are trace amounts of carcinogens still, but it's less than 1% that of a normal cig and I read a statement saying that the chance of cancer based on that was basically nonexistent (THOUGH WE STILL HAVE NO GOOD LONGITUDINAL STUDIES). The carcinogen level found in cigalikes is much higher. In my opinion, invest a bit more for a good entry-level rechargeable vv/vw setup. You will have massively higher levels of enjoyment
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On March 15 2014 11:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I've done a lot of research on this topic (doing my master's thesis on nicotine) and the levels of carcinogens found in those blu e-cigs and other cigalikes is far greater than those found in devices at the ego twist level or higher.
Just curious, why would that be?
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For someone who has never smoked any type of cig and doesn't plan on it (i.e. for a complete noob in this field), how healthy are these e-cigs? Relative to regular cigarettes, and in general.
Sorry if that's a super broad question, i'm just curious!
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Well, assuming you are talking about the ecigs/vapor devices that contain nicotine, then the only real drug you are getting with them is nicotine (assuming there are not other harmful chemicals in the liquid). With normal cigarettes, you are inhaling actual smoke, which contains a residue tar, which is the main cause of smokers lung cancer and other breathing ailments. Nicotine alone is a stimulant though, and with prolonged heavy use, can raise blood pressure, cause heart problems, among other things that stimulants often cause in the long run. I am by no means an expert though, this is just what I understand to be the difference.
On another note, I recently purchased an eGo-C kit. It shoulder arrive next week... wish me luck on sticking with it and permanently giving up on the others (Been over 10 years now... wow).
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On March 15 2014 12:54 Powerpill wrote:
Well, assuming you are talking about the ecigs/vapor devices that contain nicotine, then the only real drug you are getting with them is nicotine (assuming there are not other harmful chemicals in the liquid). With normal cigarettes, you are inhaling actual smoke, which contains a residue tar, which is the main cause of smokers lung cancer and other breathing ailments. Nicotine alone is a stimulant though, and with prolonged heavy use, can raise blood pressure, cause heart problems, among other things that stimulants often cause in the long run. I am by no means an expert though, this is just what I understand to be the difference.
On another note, I recently purchased an eGo-C kit. It shoulder arrive next week... wish me luck on sticking with it and permanently giving up on the others (Been over 10 years now... wow).
Find a flavor you like and it shouldn't be too hard to make the jump. You might want to use it more often than you would a cigarette to make the switch, but for me once I got it I never looked back, over a year now!
On March 15 2014 12:35 darthfoley wrote:
For someone who has never smoked any type of cig and doesn't plan on it (i.e. for a complete noob in this field), how healthy are these e-cigs? Relative to regular cigarettes, and in general.
Sorry if that's a super broad question, i'm just curious!
Well, if you get a decent liquid the only things in there are flavoring, nicotine, and a combination of 2 food additives.
The PG/VG you're probably eating in some foods you consume anyway. Flavoring I think it generally derived from the actual item (at least in the case of fruits) so that's no big deal. Nicotine is a stimulant so I mean sure you'd be better off not using it but I'm not super worried about it either.
I don't see how an e-cig can be anywhere near as bad for you as a regular cigarette. Unless somehow down the line they find out that the liquid is laced with ebola I just don't see how it would be worse =P Sure, ideally you just throw in the towel on all of it but it's an alternative.
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Anyone tried Vuse? It's a new one that's popped up in the convenience stores around my town. Costs $30 for the starter kit and about $5-6 for cartridges. Says you get 200 drags per cartridge. Is it any good or should I just bite the bullet and get a different one? Any good websites to purchase from?
Started smoking again (after 3 years quit, stupid college and writing papers) and figured I'd might as well go the vaporizer route.
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$5 or $6 for a pack of cigarettes worth of liquid is fucking highway robbery man. Plus those tiny things are god awful gutless pieces of junk. Definitely invest in at least a basic setup if you actually want to quit.
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On March 15 2014 13:12 JumboJohnson wrote:
Anyone tried Vuse? It's a new one that's popped up in the convenience stores around my town. Costs $30 for the starter kit and about $5-6 for cartridges. Says you get 200 drags per cartridge. Is it any good or should I just bite the bullet and get a different one? Any good websites to purchase from?
Started smoking again (after 3 years quit, stupid college and writing papers) and figured I'd might as well go the vaporizer route.
http://www.vapedojo.com/collections/starter-kits/products/kanger-evod-starter-kit In luck too its in stock!
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On March 15 2014 12:28 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I've done a lot of research on this topic (doing my master's thesis on nicotine) and the levels of carcinogens found in those blu e-cigs and other cigalikes is far greater than those found in devices at the ego twist level or higher. Just curious, why would that be?
DISCLAIMER: I can't find the info that led me to this conclusion
But basically there was a study that I remember finding which showed that the content of a cigalike was producing carcinogens at a much higher rate than "real" vape devices. I can't find it anymore though, and upon reading the blu page it doesn't seem to be an issue... so I could be wrong.
Even if I am, though, spending money on a good vape device is well worth it and you won't regret it.
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On March 15 2014 12:54 Powerpill wrote:
Well, assuming you are talking about the ecigs/vapor devices that contain nicotine, then the only real drug you are getting with them is nicotine (assuming there are not other harmful chemicals in the liquid). With normal cigarettes, you are inhaling actual smoke, which contains a residue tar, which is the main cause of smokers lung cancer and other breathing ailments. Nicotine alone is a stimulant though, and with prolonged heavy use, can raise blood pressure, cause heart problems, among other things that stimulants often cause in the long run. I am by no means an expert though, this is just what I understand to be the difference.
On another note, I recently purchased an eGo-C kit. It shoulder arrive next week... wish me luck on sticking with it and permanently giving up on the others (Been over 10 years now... wow).
The key point to remember with this is that nicotine itself is not an actual carcinogen, so as far as we know there are no known carcinogens in most* ejuices.
*some companies used to have diacetyl for butter flavoring and that shit was really bad for you, most if not all have cut it out from their flavorings
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On March 15 2014 13:12 JumboJohnson wrote:
Anyone tried Vuse? It's a new one that's popped up in the convenience stores around my town. Costs $30 for the starter kit and about $5-6 for cartridges. Says you get 200 drags per cartridge. Is it any good or should I just bite the bullet and get a different one? Any good websites to purchase from?
Started smoking again (after 3 years quit, stupid college and writing papers) and figured I'd might as well go the vaporizer route.
Yeah, don't buy your shit from a gas station. Go from a reputable online source or a vape shop. For about $50 you can get a really good setup. Scan the last few pages for recommendations.
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thanks for all the info 5hit russian 
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Another little nice bonus so far of my Kanger Aerotank over the old iclear is there's no dripping into the tip at all. Not that it was the end of the world but it did get annoying sometimes. The iclear is still a nice little, cheap, no bullshit tank but I'm loving this thing.
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I've missed the boat on this a little bit but I got my first E-Cig yesterday. It's a fairly compact one with 1.1? or 11%, basically there was a 0.6 lower strength but I got the 1.1 because I didn't want to be draining it trying to satisfy my addiction.
It's good not smelling of smoke but I do feel stupid smoking it, it just doesn't look right to me still. The flavour is ok, I went for a mild menthol but i'll probably get a stronger menthol next time.
*edit* I tried a few types in the shop. The tobacco e-liquid was awful!
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Been off the nicotine for a few weeks, and it's getting less and less worth the (lack of) flavor and time spent rebuilding these damn coils for no drug fix, so I'm pretty close to successfully using vape to quit smoking cigs and quit nic entirely. Wish I could say I was proud of myself, but I think it's kind of fucked that I didn't see going outside for a smoke to be "a bother" but wrapping and re-wicking my coils feels like a damned chore now that the nic is gone. I'll get the hardware set up and pass it off to my father once I'm sure I'm done, but I feel pretty close.
BTW unicorn blood from fuzion is fucking excellent but has way too much sweetener in it and murders wicks. That was def worth the flavor when I had that.
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I actually read an article on this today; seems that the vapor of e-cigarettes temporarily heightens the pH-levels in your nose, which activates the defenses of the MRSA-bacteria. Resulting in the bacteria being more resistant to the immune system of humans. (source: ATS 2014 Conference)
But whatever, guess it's not a really big deal. Everything available on the market will kill you in one way or another.
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Sounds like double barrel fear-mongering to me.
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Souns like science to me. It's just an observation/study result. The effect on the average e-cigarette user is probably negligible, but I guess these findings aren't Marlboro funded scare tactics. 
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