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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-17 12:38:58
February 17 2014 12:38 GMT
#181
On February 01 2014 15:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Any recommendations for liquids? Can I buy those at stores or better to order them? I smoke mostly camel filtereds/marlboro lights/27s. Not looking for anything amazing but just something close to the taste of a real cigarette.

My current favorites are Halcyon Cran'Chi and Space Jam Andromeda. You can buy them at stores (or online). Honestly, once you start vaping you'll realize that the tobacco flavors in general just suck and you can get nicotine that tastes good instead. If you're looking for good tobacco flavors it's always hit and miss through trial and error. I hear good things about bombies and the jango flavor from seduce juice I have right now isn't bad, but honestly, go get something that tastes good.

On February 06 2014 06:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I heard that it can be hard to limit yourself and it's common to ingest more nicotine than with smoking regular cigarettes, is there a way to measure how much nicotine you're taking in and what are the common amounts?

Nicotine is not a known carcinogen, so it's nice if you like nicotine but not cancer. All e-liquids should clearly be labeled in mg/100mL on the bottle.

On February 17 2014 13:29 Pniski wrote:
I don't know any chain smokers that switched to e-cigarettes completely. I guess for the same reasons that people already mentioned here - too weak, taste is not the same etc. But I do know casual smokers who have picked up e-cigarettes instead of smoking regular stuff. I guess that's a progress of a kind long term for those who haven't picked up the habit just yet.

Chain smoked Pall Malls unfiltered for 5 years and went full e-cig 6 months ago
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JeanBob
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada295 Posts
February 19 2014 06:49 GMT
#182
I heard that it was illegal for e-cigarettes in Canada to have nicotine in them. Could it work even without the nicotine? I feel like that's what I'm addicted too and going for e-cigarettes without nicotine will just make me wish I was having a real one instead.
"Teach the ones below you something you have learnt and learn from the ones above you." -Sonata Arctica
Pniski
Profile Joined February 2014
United States17 Posts
February 19 2014 07:14 GMT
#183
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I heard that it was illegal for e-cigarettes in Canada to have nicotine in them. Could it work even without the nicotine? I feel like that's what I'm addicted too and going for e-cigarettes without nicotine will just make me wish I was having a real one instead.


I think it's a mixture of both - pure nicotine addiction and the routine part of the habit. For example, if every time you go to work or school, you smoke waiting for the bus or train and have done so for years, the hard part of quitting is finding something to replace that with. Maybe that's where e-cigs without nicotine could be helpful. I've talked to people who have quit and a lot of them said that the routine part was much harder to drop.
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JeanBob
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada295 Posts
February 19 2014 07:33 GMT
#184
On February 19 2014 16:14 Pniski wrote:
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I heard that it was illegal for e-cigarettes in Canada to have nicotine in them. Could it work even without the nicotine? I feel like that's what I'm addicted too and going for e-cigarettes without nicotine will just make me wish I was having a real one instead.


I think it's a mixture of both - pure nicotine addiction and the routine part of the habit. For example, if every time you go to work or school, you smoke waiting for the bus or train and have done so for years, the hard part of quitting is finding something to replace that with. Maybe that's where e-cigs without nicotine could be helpful. I've talked to people who have quit and a lot of them said that the routine part was much harder to drop.


True that. I have 30-minutes pauses at job and that's where I smoke, that and when driving to/back from job. So I guess I should give it a try. Thanks!
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 19 2014 22:38 GMT
#185
Great satire piece I saw on reddit regarding non-smokers' "concerns" about vapers: The Daily Mash

Office manager Donna Sheridan agreed: “Now that all my smoker mates are using supposedly harmless e-fags, I’ve had to start hanging around crack houses to feel better than others.

Source - reddit

Which is funny because there's another link there regarding something harmful found in one brand's liquid (wtf titanium dioxide?)

Couple more days until my second batch of Airheadz flavor is done, and I'm eyeing a couple of flavors online to see what I can see and branch out my flavor profile.
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Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 23:32:54
February 19 2014 23:22 GMT
#186
E-cigs should be mandatory imho. If someone's going to decide to fuck up their respiratory system, they should do it to themselves and not everyone around them. Although they don't intend to be, smokers are extremely inconsiderate about others. Also, people don't usually like smelling like tobacco smoke when on their way to an important meeting, outing, etc. or just in any case.
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
February 21 2014 02:55 GMT
#187
Ive been using the disposable blucigs recently and im kinda liking them. Initially it was a temporary solution to the problem of smoking inside the house. I am too lazy to go out to smoke and sticking my head out the window and airing out is alot of effort i have to put up with. With the crazy winter we have right now, it seemed like a good idea to try. Wasn't my intention to quit analogs but I find myself buying them lot less now. I haven't even bought a pack for a week.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-21 23:31:22
February 21 2014 22:37 GMT
#188
So my liquid came in today and I'm having trouble getting the thing to work. When I press the button once the light flashes, and when I press it 5 times it doesn't lock the atomizer. I have the battery plugged in. And also, when the battery is plugged in, the light where the usb connects flashes briefly then goes out again, it's not lighting up constantly, does that mean there's something wrong with my battery?

edit: called in and apparently it means there's a defect with the battery, they're shipping me a new one.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 22 2014 05:54 GMT
#189
I left it charging and apparently it work now... this things too advanced for me.

I know most people vape inside, but if the smoke contains nicotine would it be better to blow it out? I'm near a window so it doesn't matter either way. Also when do you know to stop? What's the equivalent in cigarettes of emptying the liquid in the 16ml cartomizer? Thanks.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
February 22 2014 06:09 GMT
#190
On February 22 2014 14:54 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I left it charging and apparently it work now... this things too advanced for me.

I know most people vape inside, but if the smoke contains nicotine would it be better to blow it out? I'm near a window so it doesn't matter either way. Also when do you know to stop? What's the equivalent in cigarettes of emptying the liquid in the 16ml cartomizer? Thanks.


lol, that's the problem is stopping since its so easy =P Its not enough nicotine to do much of anything to anyone else unless you're reenacting a cheech and chong scene. While it has a smell it doesn't stick on anything or stay around. I was concerned when I first got it since it clearly has a smell and I didn't want to get it all over everything, but it goes away in minute and doesn't linger around.

I don't know the specifics of what equates to what since I never knew how much nicotine was in each cigarette, and apparently there's more than they even say. But 15mg nicotine is 15mg of nicotine per 1ml of liquid. Also you don't absorb all of that nicotine only part of it. When I started with a plain atomizer (have to put drops in every time) I heard 3 drops ~ 1 cigarette.

BTW, are you actually in China? Hows it going so far?
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 22 2014 06:21 GMT
#191
I live in the states now, I've just never bothered to change the location

Did some googling and found this

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/261114-tobacco-cigarette-vs-e-cigarette-nicotine-equivalency.html

that basically just says tests are inconclusive and the comparison is difficult to make, but in general e-cigs deliver less nicotine per vape. Guess I'll just stop when I feel dizzy. I got a liquid that was recommended for Marlboro light smokers and it tastes fine. Will definitely try to experiment with others. The taste is very similar to smoking a hookah.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
February 22 2014 06:26 GMT
#192
On February 22 2014 15:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I live in the states now, I've just never bothered to change the location

Did some googling and found this

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/261114-tobacco-cigarette-vs-e-cigarette-nicotine-equivalency.html

that basically just says tests are inconclusive and the comparison is difficult to make, but in general e-cigs deliver less nicotine per vape. Guess I'll just stop when I feel dizzy. I got a liquid that was recommended for Marlboro light smokers and it tastes fine. Will definitely try to experiment with others. The taste is very similar to smoking a hookah.


Well, when you feel dizzy you've probably gone too far. Honestly I've never gotten the same buzz I got with cigarettes. Granted I didn't get the buzz often after 10 years it was a pretty rare thing. Yeah, it's quite a lot like a hookah. I get that all the time from friends who try mine.

When I went in last week for a refill I said something about some guy on a forum who apparently ordered a bunch of stuff in China, they were like "we ship to china?!" so I wasn't sure lol. I was a camel light smoker and did blend 4, its tobacco thats a bit fruity, I liked it but quickly switched just to get rid of the tobacco flavor.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 06:32:20
February 22 2014 06:31 GMT
#193
Ah I see, I called into their store today despite it being an online order and they shipped me a new one instantly. Great customer service! What liquid did you switch to and any other recs? I usually switched between Marlboro lights, 27s, Camel lights and filters.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
February 22 2014 09:23 GMT
#194
They're pretty awesome in store usually, they don't jerk you around and stuff. Seems like a straight forward company and most everyone in store is helpful.

I've only used pomegranate, blend 4 (for the first few weeks), and I ordered some crunch berry from LJ's Esmokes. The crunch berry was pretty decent but not something I could do on the regular. The cappuccino at smokeless is pretty good, I want to try some grape but they don't have any, they gave me a local place to check out though. I honestly need to experiment way more but once I've found something I like I've always just stuck with it lol.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 22 2014 21:10 GMT
#195
I switched from a Kangertech Protank II to an Aspire Nautilus today. I'm not sure why but when I first tried it out the thing was spitting juice into my mouth really bad but it must have been a bad coil or something because when I changed out the coil it seems to be working much better now. I just wonder how many bad coils I'll run into with this brand as opposed to Kangertech - I've been getting more and more from Kanger.

The taste seems to be a lot better out of the Nautilus, again I'm not sure how or why - I was kinda in a hurry when I stopped at the vape shop today. But with the functioning coil the vape is a little smoother without sacrificing the flavor. All in all I'm fairly satisfied with the Nautilus.
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peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
February 22 2014 21:20 GMT
#196
Hey guys! In college right now, and interested about getting in to vaping. Definitely noticed that taking a few puffs off my friend's cape that it really helped relax me and helped me settle in for a long paper. I was wondering if you all could point me towards some good starter kits or some info on starting? We were using really low nicotine content juice, for what it's worth?
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
February 22 2014 21:20 GMT
#197
I've been thinking of buying one for my brother, since he smokes too much, but he says he doesn't think it will be an adequate replacement and he has a phantom fear about ecigs being dangerous for his health. Tbh, I don't understand the concept of being addicted not to nicotine, but to smoking, but my brother is uninterested in things such as nicotine gum. I thought with ecigs you'd at least keep the smoking part but he still doesn't like it.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 22 2014 21:43 GMT
#198
On February 23 2014 06:20 Grumbels wrote:
I've been thinking of buying one for my brother, since he smokes too much, but he says he doesn't think it will be an adequate replacement and he has a phantom fear about ecigs being dangerous for his health. Tbh, I don't understand the concept of being addicted not to nicotine, but to smoking, but my brother is uninterested in things such as nicotine gum. I thought with ecigs you'd at least keep the smoking part but he still doesn't like it.

The smoking ritual becomes deep seated. I still crave cigarettes for the taste/ritual sometimes, though I imagine after not having smoked a cigarette for three months it would taste rather garbage to me and that would 'ruin' the experience enough to keep me away. The ritual is rather powerful once it's been followed for a long time. I smoked for 9 years, I still think about going outside, lighting up, and staring into the distance in a semi-meditative state.

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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
February 22 2014 21:52 GMT
#199
On February 23 2014 06:20 peanutsfan1995 wrote:
Hey guys! In college right now, and interested about getting in to vaping. Definitely noticed that taking a few puffs off my friend's cape that it really helped relax me and helped me settle in for a long paper. I was wondering if you all could point me towards some good starter kits or some info on starting? We were using really low nicotine content juice, for what it's worth?


I don't know about just starting to use nicotine to relax for writing papers. Seems a silly reason to start taking a horrifyingly addictive substance but whatever lol. Just going to copy paste my recommendations from a few pages ago. It's the same recommendation I'd give to anyone thinking of switching. But again, I wouldn't go down this road for mere paper writing but to each their own I guess.

On February 01 2014 14:28 OuchyDathurts wrote:
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On February 01 2014 13:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
any recommendations for starter kits?


Barebones no bullshit cheap starting point that actually functions is going to look something like this.

EGO style battery EGO is basically just the generic style battery. They're made by a million different companies but they all use the standard size threading. This is the most basic starting point, buy one of these, spend a ton on one of the crazy batteries, or don't vape at all, period. Anything smaller is completely worthless.
* There is a USB Pass-through version as well It costs more but you don't have to take your tank off to charge. You can sit at your computer and vape all day long. Same as the above battery you're just paying more for convenience. Personally I use these.

iClear Clearomizer 1.6ml No frills tank to hold the juice. They're idiot proof, don't have to dick around with them, put liquid in and go. IMO the best ease of use starting point, you can get all fancy later. Cheap, holds a lot of juice (2 days to 1/3 of a day depending on how much you use it), color coded if you want to keep separate tanks for separate flavors.
*iClear 3ml tank Same as above but holds 3ml instead of 1.6
*iClear 1.6 replacement head Need to replace the head inside every once in a while, just grab a few to have handy.
*iClear 3.0 replacement head Replacement head for 3ml

Then you just need a liquid of choice, that's it. Cheap, quick, and dirty. Setup should last you forever if you don't drop kick it off a building.

Everything linked here is just from a local shop for ease of linking. Feel free to shop around to save some money if you want. Optionally you might want a different drip tip (the thing you suck on) but its all personal preference or style.

Start here, I wouldn't deviate unless you have someone to take you under your wing and tell you what sucks and what doesn't. Find a store and try for yourself before you buy. But this setup should get you off cigarettes. It's powerful enough and convenient with the tank. In the future you can start experimenting with variable voltage and mods and all that.

I really should just copy this whole thing and paste it =P


On February 23 2014 06:20 Grumbels wrote:
I've been thinking of buying one for my brother, since he smokes too much, but he says he doesn't think it will be an adequate replacement and he has a phantom fear about ecigs being dangerous for his health. Tbh, I don't understand the concept of being addicted not to nicotine, but to smoking, but my brother is uninterested in things such as nicotine gum. I thought with ecigs you'd at least keep the smoking part but he still doesn't like it.


I mean it doesn't work for everyone. A shitty ecig didn't do anything for me originally, but since I got the setup above I hadn't touched a cigarette in 1 year on March 5th. Even if it turns out ecigs aren't good for you, there is literally no way they're worse for you than actual cigarettes. That would actually be impossible, so he's worrying about nonsense. Sure just straight kicking smoking entirely is the most ideal thing. But he's concerned about something while he's sleeping with a grizzly bear with a nuke strapped to its back. Keep shit in perspective.

Nicotine gum sucks balls, its just not the same. You don't have much control over it, can't dial it in with what your body is asking for at a given moment. You can do that with an ecig. I need more nicotine I take more hits, I feel fine I put it down. While nicotine is mega super fucking addictive just the rituals can be addictive as well. Your brain will be saying "Hey, we're driving, you should be smoking!" or "You just finished an episode of a show on netflix, time to go have a smoke." You form habits and that's just the nature of the beast.

See if there's a local shop that will let him test things out. I don't see why places wouldn't let you. Once you try it the stuff pretty much sells itself. Go in there, talk to the people, try out different devices, different flavors, let him give it a shot. Can't really say it's not going to work if he's not willing to just go try it first.
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peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
February 22 2014 22:52 GMT
#200
On February 23 2014 06:52 OuchyDathurts wrote:
I don't know about just starting to use nicotine to relax for writing papers. Seems a silly reason to start taking a horrifyingly addictive substance but whatever lol. Just going to copy paste my recommendations from a few pages ago. It's the same recommendation I'd give to anyone thinking of switching. But again, I wouldn't go down this road for mere paper writing but to each their own I guess.


Schoolwork drives my anxiety up the wall to a crazy amount. Friend's vape was the only thing that's really managed to take the edge off. Trust me, I'm looking at other ways of coping, but right now, this seems to be the best. :c
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