Anything around the size of a regular cigarette is going to be garbage honestly. The EGO battery is about as thick as a cigar for reference. Having a tiny battery by default means its less powerful with less life. When you need a fix they just don't have the balls to deliver. I started off with Blu and sucking on a drinking straw full of air would have been more effective. I'd steer clear honestly.
The setup above could last you forever. I mean if it gets the job done and you don't want any bells and whistles there's no need to upgrade. Some people like having variable voltage because some liquids you might want to burn hotter to get a slightly different flavor. Some of the crazy mods that cost hundreds of dollars are built like a tank, have battery life for days of regular use, and can even charge your cellphone off the battery they're so powerful. So cost in the long run depends entirely on you honestly. The setup above is a decent setup, it's legit, it just also happens to be the place I'd recommend people to start from so it's not crappy by any stretch.
It's kind of like RAM. 8GBs is the least I'd ever put in a system, it's also the most I'd ever put into a system for regular purposes. If you do something more specialized you might need more for your purposes though. In that case you'd be looking into more expensive mod territory.
Any recommendations for liquids? Can I buy those at stores or better to order them? I smoke mostly camel filtereds/marlboro lights/27s. Not looking for anything amazing but just something close to the taste of a real cigarette.
Liquids are pretty personal. I do pomegranate personally. The thing with liquid is you're no longer tied to the taste of tobacco, you can vape any flavor under the sun, so branch out! I started with tobacco at first but quickly changed. Online is generally going to be cheaper, in store more convenient because you just grab more when you need more. There are places online where you can order little samples cheaply so you can test out a bunch of flavors. The only issue there is going to be with the tank, changing flavors is annoying. You'd have to clean the tank out thoroughly and change the head every flavor so you don't muddy it up.
There's a billion flavors out there from tons of different sources. One persons version of tobacco and another person's can be miles apart. You can get grape to cheese cake to tobacco to crunchberry flavored. Experiment and find something that tastes good to you!
Edit: Oh, and there's the whole PG (Propylene Glycol) vs VG (Vegetable Glycerin) thing. PG provides more of a throat hit, VG makes for more vapor. So the ratio that you prefer is another variable in the mix.
So it doesn't matter what brand I pick for the liquid as long as it tastes good? If so I will order the kit you recommended and buy liquid in store then. Thanks for your help, if I didn't post here I probably would've went with a cigarette looking kit and end up regretting it.
For a battery, shoutout for the iTaste MVP V2. Lasts me about a full day of very heavy tooting, you can use it while it's charging (it draws from the battery, not from the USB port when firing), and it has a power out that can revive your cell or iPod or whatever electronic device needs a jump in a pinch. Downside is that it's the cost of what you could get a few Vision Spinner / Ego Twists for, so you could just rotate a pair of those on a charger instead and save a few bucks.
Also huge huge huge thing to remember at all times. Battery safety. Don't charge on flammable surfaces. Don't charge overnight. All the standard rechargable battery rules.
Well, I wouldn't buy liquid from some shady looking place or china because you're probably going to be vaping anthrax or some shit. Making your own liquid is fairly easy (if you're smart about it, you could kill people if not) so there's so many people out there making stuff that the options are limitless. Maybe think of a flavor of something you find to be tasty, say cappuccino for example. Look around and see what the world has to offer for cappuccino flavors, there's a ton. A pack a day smoker is probably going to want 15-20mg of nicotine.
The store by me lets you try all the devices and all the flavors out. If you've got something like that by you it's worth checking out and taste testing.
I'm pretty sure I've heard of Mt Baker Vapor, it was mount something or other.
As far as battery safety goes. TBH I've never heard the term battery safety in my life =P I charge my phone and ecig overnight every night. I mean, I guess...
what would you guys recommend for a regular cig smoker? about 3-4 a day? I have always wanted to try out the e-cig, but never got around to it. would it be much cheaper than just regular smokes? Btw I'm in Canada so smokes are around 12-16 dollars per a pack of 20.
On February 06 2014 06:14 Liquorshot_852 wrote: what would you guys recommend for a regular cig smoker? about 3-4 a day? I have always wanted to try out the e-cig, but never got around to it. would it be much cheaper than just regular smokes? Btw I'm in Canada so smokes are around 12-16 dollars per a pack of 20.
Read my recommendation on last page. I use my e-cig a TON and it costs about $45 a month between liquid and some replacement heads.
I heard that it can be hard to limit yourself and it's common to ingest more nicotine than with smoking regular cigarettes, is there a way to measure how much nicotine you're taking in and what are the common amounts?
On February 06 2014 06:53 zulu_nation8 wrote: I heard that it can be hard to limit yourself and it's common to ingest more nicotine than with smoking regular cigarettes, is there a way to measure how much nicotine you're taking in and what are the common amounts?
Oh, I'm positive I take in more nicotine than I did when I smoked. It's just the ease of it. I don't go outside and freeze my ass off in the winter anymore, I can just sit at my computer and go to town. When it's just sitting there in reach you'll grab it and use it without even giving it a second thought. When you first switch you should use it more just to try and make the switch off regular smokes. But, it's easy to go crazy with the thing. I've been meaning to get 15mg instead of 20 when I get a refill, I just forgot last time. With the amount I use it it's probably smart to just lower the nicotine dosage in the liquid to compensate.
As for tanks I have been really liking the kangertech miniproank II So far out of all the drip tips, tanks etc. this one has been the best imo. Checking out the youtube vids above will give you tons of info!!
Also I would check out your local shops you can usually try flavors and go through any questions or concerns you may have.
http://freedomsmokeusa.com/ is a great juice site over 600 flavors and constantly adding more and they do custom flavor as well. (Local store, does ship)
Edit: and in June it will be 2 years since I "quit" smoking(bought my first ego set) I have had an occasional cig but no buying them or smoking more than a couple every couple months.
On February 01 2014 13:45 zulu_nation8 wrote: any recommendations for starter kits?
Barebones no bullshit cheap starting point that actually functions is going to look something like this.
EGO style battery EGO is basically just the generic style battery. They're made by a million different companies but they all use the standard size threading. This is the most basic starting point, buy one of these, spend a ton on one of the crazy batteries, or don't vape at all, period. Anything smaller is completely worthless. * There is a USB Pass-through version as well It costs more but you don't have to take your tank off to charge. You can sit at your computer and vape all day long. Same as the above battery you're just paying more for convenience. Personally I use these.
iClear Clearomizer 1.6ml No frills tank to hold the juice. They're idiot proof, don't have to dick around with them, put liquid in and go. IMO the best ease of use starting point, you can get all fancy later. Cheap, holds a lot of juice (2 days to 1/3 of a day depending on how much you use it), color coded if you want to keep separate tanks for separate flavors. *iClear 3ml tank Same as above but holds 3ml instead of 1.6 *iClear 1.6 replacement head Need to replace the head inside every once in a while, just grab a few to have handy. *iClear 3.0 replacement head Replacement head for 3ml
Then you just need a liquid of choice, that's it. Cheap, quick, and dirty. Setup should last you forever if you don't drop kick it off a building.
Everything linked here is just from a local shop for ease of linking. Feel free to shop around to save some money if you want. Optionally you might want a different drip tip (the thing you suck on) but its all personal preference or style.
Start here, I wouldn't deviate unless you have someone to take you under your wing and tell you what sucks and what doesn't. Find a store and try for yourself before you buy. But this setup should get you off cigarettes. It's powerful enough and convenient with the tank. In the future you can start experimenting with variable voltage and mods and all that.
I really should just copy this whole thing and paste it =P
I got the USB ego passthrough, the 1.6ml clearomizer, and a couple of replacements. They came today but with no instructions included... what do I do? I have no liquid yet, they're coming in soon.
On February 01 2014 13:45 zulu_nation8 wrote: any recommendations for starter kits?
Barebones no bullshit cheap starting point that actually functions is going to look something like this.
EGO style battery EGO is basically just the generic style battery. They're made by a million different companies but they all use the standard size threading. This is the most basic starting point, buy one of these, spend a ton on one of the crazy batteries, or don't vape at all, period. Anything smaller is completely worthless. * There is a USB Pass-through version as well It costs more but you don't have to take your tank off to charge. You can sit at your computer and vape all day long. Same as the above battery you're just paying more for convenience. Personally I use these.
iClear Clearomizer 1.6ml No frills tank to hold the juice. They're idiot proof, don't have to dick around with them, put liquid in and go. IMO the best ease of use starting point, you can get all fancy later. Cheap, holds a lot of juice (2 days to 1/3 of a day depending on how much you use it), color coded if you want to keep separate tanks for separate flavors. *iClear 3ml tank Same as above but holds 3ml instead of 1.6 *iClear 1.6 replacement head Need to replace the head inside every once in a while, just grab a few to have handy. *iClear 3.0 replacement head Replacement head for 3ml
Then you just need a liquid of choice, that's it. Cheap, quick, and dirty. Setup should last you forever if you don't drop kick it off a building.
Everything linked here is just from a local shop for ease of linking. Feel free to shop around to save some money if you want. Optionally you might want a different drip tip (the thing you suck on) but its all personal preference or style.
Start here, I wouldn't deviate unless you have someone to take you under your wing and tell you what sucks and what doesn't. Find a store and try for yourself before you buy. But this setup should get you off cigarettes. It's powerful enough and convenient with the tank. In the future you can start experimenting with variable voltage and mods and all that.
I really should just copy this whole thing and paste it =P
I got the USB ego passthrough, the 1.6ml clearomizer, and a couple of replacements. They came today but with no instructions included... what do I do? I have no liquid yet, they're coming in soon.
Alright, the clearomizer has very few parts. You've got the plastic body, the tip which you suck on (HEYO!!), the base, and the head which is inside of the plastic body.
First thing is it should have come with a head attached already, make sure that is indeed the case, its the part with the wicks. Make sure its screwed to the base snug but don't go all hulk on it. Then you can screw the body back onto the base again, snug but not overly tight. To fill it you'll take the tip off, tilt the assembled clearomizer to the side and squirt in your liquid down the side of the chamber. Don't shoot it directly down that little rubber nipple, the wicks will do their job and bring the liquid there on their own, and also make sure that nipple is there, it serves a function so don't discard it thinking its packaging. Fill the chamber up to the 1.6 mark you don't want to over fill because when you put the tip back in it can displace the liquid and make a mess. Screw the tip back on and you're set!
As for the battery it should have a female connection with threading. Inside the bottom of the base of the clearomizer it has a little male connection. They should just screw together ezpz, again don't crank the shit out of it. You're done! Assembly is complete and its ready to rock.
The battery should have some charge on it, but you got the passthrough so you can use it anyway. We're not savages that have to take our tank off to enjoy The battery should have a locking function. Push the button 5 times and it'll flash indicating its locked so you don't accidentally trigger, hit it again 5 times to unlock. I cant remember the exact time but after something like 12 seconds of holding the button it'll automatically kill and the light will flash. The light will flash when its low on battery power. Other than that there's not much to it.
When I change heads I use the corner of a napkin to try and clear out all the left over juice that might have snuck into little nooks and crannies of the base. I personally don't do anything too crazy, just give it a cleaning with some napkins and call it good. Obviously if you have pets or something don't let them get ahold of the nicotine by any means, clean up any spills, throw stuff away where nothing is going to get to it.
Hopefully I covered everything. Enjoy, hopefully you're able to kick cigarettes!
by taking the tip off you mean just the part you suck on right? If so I'm having trouble with that, I can take the entire glass case off leaving the wicks exposed, but not just the tip.
On February 15 2014 12:05 zulu_nation8 wrote: by taking the tip off you mean just the part you suck on right? If so I'm having trouble with that, I can take the entire glass case off leaving the wicks exposed, but not just the tip.
Yes, I'm talking about that black tip you suck on, it's all 1 piece that goes down into the tank. That's the reason for the rubber nipple by the way. The tip goes inside the case and that nipple goes inside of the straw like part creating a seal so juice doesn't just come into the mouth piece. No one likes a mouth full of juice!
It should come apart just as in the pic. I did replace that black tip with a different setup that involved a metal coupling. So that picture is the out of box generic setup, mine is slightly different but functions the same way. My point being that I don't have that tip anymore so I can't look at it. BUT it should just screw off, not pull off.
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On February 15 2014 12:05 zulu_nation8 wrote: Also, I ordered 15ml of 15mg nicotine liquid: http://www.smokelesssmoking.com/products/lasso, how long does it last if I smoke about 1.5 packs a week? Thanks for your help once again.
edit: I'm an idiot the tip came off, so I'm supposed to just drip the liquid in evenly and not try to aim for the rubber hole right?
Well, I smoked a pack a day give or take. I go through 60ml a month, and I use my ecig a TON so you should get some good mileage out of only 15ml. You do save a little money buying larger bottles generally and my place honestly charges a lot for juice compared to online averages. I just grew to love the pomegranate quickly but I really should experiment more, but its so easy for me to stop in and grab some more there.
Yes, try and run the liquid down the inside wall. By tipping it to the side a bit and and letting the juice run down the inside wall the surface tension will keep it from getting into the rubber hole. If you flood the atomizer (which is where the wicks draw under that nipple) you can ruin the head which isn't the end of the world, but its silly and will taste some juice. You can also get liquid spit back in your mouth if you flood it and the liquid doesn't taste too great to just be eating lol. It's not hard, you'll get the hang of it. It's about the easiest to use tank system there is so don't over think it or freak out.
This will demonstrate the idea if you're having trouble. This is for a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TANK (Which I used to have and it was a fucking massive pain in the ass with how temperamental it was) so all the other steps don't matter to you at all. But she demonstrates what I'm talking about with tilting it and letting the liquid run down the side.
On February 01 2014 17:34 OuchyDathurts wrote: Well, I wouldn't buy liquid from some shady looking place or china because you're probably going to be vaping anthrax or some shit. Making your own liquid is fairly easy (if you're smart about it, you could kill people if not) so there's so many people out there making stuff that the options are limitless. ...
Speaking of China, aren't E-cigarettes invented there? Should be pretty safe to buy liquids made there as long as it's a US dealer. I sure as hell wouldn't recommend making your own liquid, that's for sure.
On February 01 2014 17:34 OuchyDathurts wrote: Well, I wouldn't buy liquid from some shady looking place or china because you're probably going to be vaping anthrax or some shit. Making your own liquid is fairly easy (if you're smart about it, you could kill people if not) so there's so many people out there making stuff that the options are limitless. ...
Speaking of China, aren't E-cigarettes invented there? Should be pretty safe to buy liquids made there as long as it's a US dealer. I sure as hell wouldn't recommend making your own liquid, that's for sure.
Not sure where they were invented tbh. But as a rule of thumb anything that does into my body doesn't come from China as they have a track record of having some....lax quality assurance.
Making your own isn't for your average Joe but a lot of people do it and start up businesses selling their concoctions. E-cigs are a business that's growing crazy fast. Personally, while I'm sure I'm bright enough to make my own liquid I wouldn't do it. But it is interesting and mindblowingly cheaper, you can make it for pennies comparatively. My brother works in a microbiology lab so maybe one day I'll see if he wants to do some experimentation and mix some stuff up.
I don't know any chain smokers that switched to e-cigarettes completely. I guess for the same reasons that people already mentioned here - too weak, taste is not the same etc. But I do know casual smokers who have picked up e-cigarettes instead of smoking regular stuff. I guess that's a progress of a kind long term for those who haven't picked up the habit just yet.
On February 17 2014 13:29 Pniski wrote: I don't know any chain smokers that switched to e-cigarettes completely. I guess for the same reasons that people already mentioned here - too weak, taste is not the same etc. But I do know casual smokers who have picked up e-cigarettes instead of smoking regular stuff. I guess that's a progress of a kind long term for those who haven't picked up the habit just yet.
I was a chain smoker for 10 years that hasn't touched a cigarette in 1 year next month.
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The battery should have a locking function. Push the button 5 times and it'll flash indicating its locked so you don't accidentally trigger, hit it again 5 times to unlock. I cant remember the exact time but after something like 12 seconds of holding the button it'll automatically kill and the light will flash. The light will flash when its low on battery power. Other than that there's not much to it.
