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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
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bigsack
Korea (North)220 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On December 07 2009 17:29 DustBowl wrote: You live in Canada lol... Here in America everyone is taught a young age NEVER to talk to the cops. Also, this is not a traffic ticket but a drug charge. I know this probably sounds just insane to you, but in the good'ole USA, especially in the Southern states, marijuana (especially when it is in the possession of minorities) is taken very seriously. Edit: Yea see OP's vid Uh I was always told to be cooperative with police. I mean like was said before if you don't your pretty much fucked as they can still get you and its just worse because you were hiding it. I mean in certain cases yes you can probably use the don't talk thing to your advantage but its a case by case basis, if you were "innocent" then you should always talk to police. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
The cops know whether they have probable cause. You do not. Thus, you should never consent to a search because if you don't consent and they don't have probable cause, anything they find cannot be used as evidence. On December 07 2009 17:42 Slaughter wrote: Uh I was always told to be cooperative with police. I mean like was said before if you don't your pretty much fucked as they can still get you and its just worse because you were hiding it. I mean in certain cases yes you can probably use the don't talk thing to your advantage but its a case by case basis, if you were "innocent" then you should always talk to police. There is no criminal charge that can be worsened just because you didn't cooperate with the police... unless we're talking about plea deals (which we aren't) | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On December 07 2009 17:42 Slaughter wrote: Uh I was always told to be cooperative with police. I mean like was said before if you don't your pretty much fucked as they can still get you and its just worse because you were hiding it. I mean in certain cases yes you can probably use the don't talk thing to your advantage but its a case by case basis, if you were "innocent" then you should always talk to police. You can cooperate without giving them the right to search your stuff or talk to you. Literally just tell them you don't consent to a search and you want your lawyer. Even if you're innocent you do this to protect yourself from giving the cops information that might get you in more trouble. | ||
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Powerpill
United States1693 Posts
And no, we really didn't have a choice in the car search, they were putting their hands on their guns and screaming lol.. this is in a small South Carolina town btw, I'm out of there now up in Maryland thank god. edit: 1000th post..only took slightly over 7 years :p | ||
zatic
Zurich15353 Posts
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chongu
Malaysia2593 Posts
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
Now, get yourself a lawyer. You might have had to front some bail money (which I presume you get back in your state at the end), but your friends definitely wear the drug charge (or perhaps some form of police caution depending on your local laws) and you dont; based upon what you've said they don't have enough for the possession charge. They're just being typical police officers; they feel slighted because you wouldn't talk and now they're basically charging you just to piss you off. I see this shit all the time. Well done for having the clarity of thought to retain your right to silence. | ||
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
On December 07 2009 17:11 evanthebouncy! wrote: This is probably out of line but... + Show Spoiler + SICK mug shot!! you sexy thing haha!! you even managed to smile. Big balls yo! I agree. | ||
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AtlaS
United States1001 Posts
On December 07 2009 17:46 zatic wrote: Not cooperating with the cops is a straight ticket to jail in my experience. Not saying you should or shouldn't talk, that's up to you, but you have to realize you will probably spend a night behind bars if you don't. I see it the same way too. From my limited experience and my friends' vast experience, if you cooperate with the cops, you'll probably be better off than if you don't. granted that this is only for minor infractions (Minor in Possession, Drunk and Disorderly/Drunk in Public, and once a friend was pulled over for a suspected DUI (which he was, and no, i don't think this is just a minor infraction) but he cooperated with the cops and all that ended up happening is that he spend a night in the drunk tank. no charge, not even MIP. (probably a big reason he didn't get charged with anything is because the cop asked what he wanted to do with his life and my friend said he wanted to be a marine, so idk if the cop had a soft spot for that or what)) | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On December 07 2009 17:56 AtlaS wrote: I see it the same way too. From my limited experience and my friends' vast experience, if you cooperate with the cops, you'll probably be better off than if you don't. granted that this is only for minor infractions (Minor in Possession, Drunken Disorderly/Drunk in Public, and once a friend was pulled over for a suspected DUI (which he was, and no, i don't think this is just a minor infraction) but he cooperated with the cops and all that ended up happening is that he spend a night in the drunk tank. no charge, not even MIP. (probably a big reason he didn't get charged with anything is because the cop asked what he wanted to do with his life and my friend said he wanted to be a marine, so idk if the cop had a soft spot for that or what)) I actually agree with this. If it's not a felony, sure, cooperate, since the costs of not cooperating are likely to outweigh the benefits in that case. But I stand by my assertion that you should NEVER consent to a search, no matter what. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On December 07 2009 17:44 Ace wrote: Do NOT listen to resonance. Watch the video - never ever talk to cops. You'll be sorry. You can cooperate without giving them the right to search your stuff or talk to you. Literally just tell them you don't consent to a search and you want your lawyer. Even if you're innocent you do this to protect yourself from giving the cops information that might get you in more trouble. Watched some of the video. Makes sense, but I think it's situation-dependent. Maybe because I live in BC, I don't think getting caught with pot would be a big deal, so I would just admit it because the charge probably wouldn't be very big. However if the cops were questioning me about something that would have a bigger charge, then I think not talking would be better. But if it was small like a pot charge then I still think it would be better off to just cooperate considering a person could probably get a bigger charge just b/c he or she didn't cooperate. Cut losses type of thing. Interesting video though, didn't know any of that really. | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
Explain yourself and lie if you are in the wrong, not talking to police is stupid and makes you look guilty as fuck. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
I know a quite a few lawyers, cops, have almost been arrested before and hell even served jury duty and talked to defense lawyer. Everyone will tell you the same thing - DO NOT TALK TO POLICE. Sure you got off because the cop liked you, but that won't always be the case. You can talk if you want if it's for something like a speeding ticket or I guess marijuana. Most of the time you'll just be setting yourself up for confession that you didn't even know about. "Not talking to police because it makes you look guilty" is the same logic morons use and tell on themselves at the first sign of questioning. There's a major reason in every movie when you see the suspect get arrested the first thing he/she says is they aren't saying shit until they see a lawyer. | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
atleast when the professor was talking | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66355 Posts
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
On December 07 2009 18:34 MiniRoman wrote: One time I DUI'd up a through a fire hydrant, up a porch and almost into someones living room. When the cops came they threw me in the backseat and the girl cop was talking shit saying I was gonna go to jail and not gonna be able to drive for along long time. Then me and the guy cop after he collected stories from my friends had a long chat face to face with me standing on my feet and he decided to let me go. Explain yourself and lie if you are in the wrong, not talking to police is stupid and makes you look guilty as fuck. Holy shit, please for the love of anything you hold sacred... DO NOT TAKE THIS MAN'S ADVICE. "....lie if you are in the wrong..." ... wow... just wow. | ||
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