First time arrested - Page 6

On December 08 2009 06:18 GeneralStan wrote:
I think 'don't talk to cops' is being misconstrued here.

If you get pulled over, and you think "Don't talk to the cops" means that you should clam up and not say a word, that's wrong. Initially, being friendly and courteous is likely to put them in the mindset to warn rather than go looking to write a ticket. Once they decide to charge you, there is no advantage to cooperation.

"Don't talk to cops" comes in at this point. It means that you admit no guilt. In the case of a speeding ticket, a cop may attempt to beguile you by getting you to admit that you may have been going only a few miles above the speed limit. They'll make it seem like its no big deal. The problem there is you've admitted guilt, and the fact that it was a minor infraction doesn't matter. Speeding is speeding after all! In this case, you maintain that you were going the speed limit. Make the cop work to prove your guilt, rather than admitting it and making his job easy.

And never ever consent to a search, especially when you've something to hide. It is easy for a cop to claim probable cause, but more difficult to make that stand up in court. If you can beat the probable cause, you've beat the charge, and consenting to a search robs you of a possibly easy way to evade the charge.

Basically, it comes down to a scale where you cooperate with a cop less the more they want to charge you with something. Be courteous at first, but don't consent to searches. And once they've arrested you, say nothing!

On December 08 2009 04:10 cYaN wrote:
Was i the only one who laughed when the policeman said that "interviews in places like spain and italy start out physical"? And that they could do whatever they wanted there? ahahahahahaha. I'd be surprised if he'd ever traveled outside the us, let alone been part of any international investigations. Did he think he was mentioning burma or something? lol^^ loved that guy. Especially when he went on to more than imply that you're guilty until proven innocent once you're in a defendants chair.

Also, i really wish i knew more about norwegian law, because i'm pretty sure non of this shit applies to me.... unless i'm stupid enough to sign something incriminating. Then again... we don't really have the jury system, which is just a joke. I really shouldn't get into it cause i dunno enough about it to speak up against a counter argument, but i couldn't help myself

On December 08 2009 05:06 omfghi2u2 wrote:


The police just stumbled upon them because it happened to smell in the area.

And GG you son because my buddy doesnt have shit on his record. Though he paid the same amount as the fine for the lawyer.

On December 08 2009 09:01 Number41 wrote:
In Florida you do not have to physically possess contraband to be considered in possession. You can be found to have constructive possession. A defendant can be found to have constructive possession where the contraband was in plain view in a common area under control of the defendant. Constructive possession can be exclusive or joint. (For example, both driver and passenger can be found to have constructive possession of contraband found on the passenger-side floor mat of a car. The contraband is in plain view, and both have reasonable control and access to the contraband. If neither fesses up or points fingers, both will likely be charged with possession.)

If this is your first offense, you will likely be eligible for pre-trial intervention. You will sign a contract admitting guilt and placed on something similar to probation. You will have to complete certain conditions, such as: complete a drug treatment program, pay applicable fines and remain drug free for a set amount of time. If you complete the conditions, the charges will be dropped.

On December 08 2009 10:02 Ichigo1234551 wrote:


The item was in a walmart plastic bag. So can i say that its not in plain view? you seem to know a lot. can you help me in my case?

On December 07 2009 17:17 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
smiled for your pic haha baller

Sorry for the arrest.. but yeah, shouldn't be smoking n stuff

On December 08 2009 12:02 sith wrote:


You seem to be a police officer! Seeing as you're right here, I was wondering about busting parties.

I'm sure it depends on where you live, but how do party busts usually happen (talking about high school age here)? Is it called in by the neighbors? How much do cops actually care about parties assuming it's under control and indoors?

And I'm aware that you can simply refuse entry to police officers at your door if you want, they need a search warrant to enter, but they don't need one if they can see illegal activities occurring in plain view. Would a police officer actually go to a backdoor or downstairs window slit to try and view illegal activities (probably drinking)? And can they actually go and get a search warrant that night and come back?

Thanks, feel free to answer all my questions or none at all.

On December 08 2009 12:53 Jayme wrote:


Party busts usually happen because teenagers are stupid...I'm being serious here. The main thing loud parties do is draw attention. Officers don't give a rats ass if your party is contained and indoors. Most wouldn't care if it was loud either but then people complain.

What happens is that they get too loud or roudy and the neighbor will call it in. Any call with a complainant HAS to be investigated by a police officer (at least here it does). If I get a noise complaint dispatched to me I'll generally see if it has a complainant or not. If not I'll drive by briefly to see how bad it really is and make my decision from there. If it does...well I have to knock on the freaking door, I have no choice.

Here is the thing. I'll normally tell you to keep it down and keep your party inside the house. As long as it isn't a habitual place of offense I'm more than willing to leave without busting a party. I was a teenager once too.

The issue is that there are usually empty beer cans outside, open beer cans in view, or I am forced back because they didn't listen to me the first time. Once I see any of those things I can go inside the house with a warrant...and they are pretty easy to get if you have probable cause.

If your backyard is FENCED IN an officer cannot just go back there and and peek through a backdoor. A fenced in area means it's part of the curtiledge of your home and thereby inaccessible without a warrant. Most officers I know personally would be too lazy to do this anyway.

Anyway around here as long as when an officer tells the party to shut the hell up and they do so...they will be left alone.

Smaller town cops generally have nothing better to do so they might be just a bit more aggressive in trying to get you with something. Just know this... answer the door with ONE person, make sure all open containers are out of sight of the doorway, and make sure the person answering the door is sober enough to communicate readily with an officer without flipping out. Keep your party inside the house if at all possible and every now and then one person should go outside to see if you can hear the party outside of the house.

Officers in big cities usually have other things to do than bust parties. Even on the rare circumstances I'm forced to do so I just make everyone go home. I have no desire to fill out 20000 booking slips to arrest that many kids who are just having fun anyway.

Oh yea, don't joy ride -.- That'll actually piss people off because you're starting to endanger other people.