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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
Yes, I agree. | ||
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
On November 30 2009 08:02 FragKrag wrote: Saturnize I don't think there is a single country in Europe where the majority has no religious beliefs maybe, just maybe the Netherlands, but I think even that is a long shot. Except for Ireland, Italy and maybe Spain and Portugal I wouldn't say there's any country in (Central/Northern) Europe where religious beliefs are widespread. Seeing the strong anti-islamic attitude makes me want to emigrate to Switzerland. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On November 30 2009 07:58 Foucault wrote: Hostile? Just because they apparently don't want Islam to spread in Switzerland doesn't make them "hostile". Jonoman wrote "hostile towards Muslims." And not wanting Islam to spread in Switzerland does make the Swiss hostile towards Muslims. Read! I think this is an awful law, and it sets a bad example for the various European countries that are facing strong internal pressure to fight "Islamification". Preventing people from constructing buildings of a certain dimension is a pretty egregious trampling of personal freedoms. | ||
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ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
All religions are stupid and pointless anyway; the idea of believing in something with blind faith and without a single shred of evidence is just ridiculous. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
last time I checked like 75% of Sweden was part of the Church of Sweden...? I'm pretty sure most people in Europe still have religious beliefs, maybe not attending church during every meeting or whatever, but belief in God/Gods. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
Can we get more ignorant about things? | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 30 2009 08:02 FragKrag wrote: Saturnize I don't think there is a single country in Europe where the majority has no religious beliefs maybe, just maybe the Netherlands, but I think even that is a long shot. The only people I've met who were openly religious were priests. On November 30 2009 08:14 FragKrag wrote: Uh where are you getting that last time I checked like 75% of Sweden was part of the Church of Sweden...? I'm pretty sure most people in Europe still have religious beliefs, maybe not attending church during every meeting or whatever, but belief in God/Gods. Which is probably mostly because you are born into the church of sweden and have to actually put an effort into leaving it. Hell, I thought I had left it when I didn't do the whole confirmation thing but turns out there was more to it than that. | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On November 30 2009 08:14 ghostWriter wrote: I can see why they would be wary of Islamic influences. Where do you think the Paris riots came from? Ungrateful youth that should expend their time and energy on their education or a career, wasting their lives being mad at the establishment, which allows them to have protection, a home, etc. There's a big, hard to justify leap from being wary of influences and taking affirmative steps to eliminate them. | ||
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
On November 30 2009 08:14 FragKrag wrote: Uh where are you getting that last time I checked like 75% of Sweden was part of the Church of Sweden...? I'm pretty sure most people in Europe still have religious beliefs, maybe not attending church during every meeting or whatever, but belief in God/Gods. Europe is a big place, you can't generalize it in this way. In Italy, of course there's a VERY small percentage of atheists. In Scandinavia, the majority of the population in these countries (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland) are atheists or do not actively practice any religion at all. The last study I checked was conducted in 2005 and it says very clearly that 85% of Swedish people report being atheists. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
At least we've got spontaneous demonstrations all across Switzerland now with people building minarets out of cardboard boxes, we're not all idiots! | ||
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ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
On November 30 2009 08:17 JWD wrote: There's a big, hard to justify leap from being wary of influences and taking affirmative steps to eliminate them. If you immigrate to a different country, it's your job to assimilate into the existing culture. The Koran promotes violence in order for Islam to spread. Why wouldn't they eliminate threatening influences? | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
!hi Orome what is the background on the dumb bill :/ | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On November 30 2009 08:22 ghostWriter wrote: If you immigrate to a different country, it's your job to assimilate into the existing culture. The Koran promotes violence in order for Islam to spread. Why wouldn't they eliminate threatening influences? Where in the Koran did it actually promote violence? | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On November 30 2009 08:02 FragKrag wrote: Saturnize I don't think there is a single country in Europe where the majority has no religious beliefs maybe, just maybe the Netherlands, but I think even that is a long shot. ok then a "good chunk" of the population  | ||
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Yizuo
Germany1537 Posts
IMO this ban is pure bullshit, the people are blinded by fear of different cultures and religions. "The free western world" should always uphold their values of open-mindedness and tolerance, the decision made by the swiss people is a step in the wrong direction. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
I remember in high school when a Persian guy (who is a nice guy) practically bragged about the practice of hanging gay people in his country. Also my best friend is "engaged" to a 13 yr old he has never met (he doesn't plan to do through with it). Oh and also Muslim people raped my country for 500 years...surprisingly I don't have that much of a problem with that. IMO the western world is too civilized for Islam to work without changing. | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
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