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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
Apparently the swiss voters backed a ban on minarets based on the fact that they are not required by Islam, and are a sign of Islamisation. I really doubt banning the construction of minarets is going to stop any "Islamisation". Does anybody in Switzerland or even Europe have any information? It didn't really get any airtime in the US. Apparently the government didn't want to do it, but the people did ?_? | ||
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Faronel
United States658 Posts
Paranoia like this never gets any positive results. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9101 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
It's not it just barely passed with 1% of the population. I'm not going to say that they have genuine hostility, but definitely fear. The country is like 90% Christian no? | ||
Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On November 30 2009 07:53 Jonoman92 wrote: They should ban crosses too then. I don't know how this can be construed in any way other than the Swiss being hostile towards Muslims. Hostile? Just because they apparently don't want Islam to spread in Switzerland doesn't make them "hostile". Interesting thought, Richard Dawkins would most likely support this ban. People aren't always against things just because they are "hostile" or scared of everything new. Those notions are politically correct ideas, and are hostile against free thought. | ||
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1903 Posts
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On November 30 2009 07:55 FragKrag wrote: I don't know how much % of the population must be for it in order to pass, but 57% is pretty steep... It's not it just barely passed with 1% of the population. I'm not going to say that they have genuine hostility, but definitely fear. The country is like 90% Christian no? Most of the country doesn't have religious beliefs. | ||
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keepITup
251 Posts
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Whiplash
United States2928 Posts
On November 30 2009 07:52 Foucault wrote: I don't really see a reason to spread religion in the world to be honest. Islam to me is oppression and women being held down by ridiculous religious beliefs. Of course there are nice things to arabic culture, but Islam is not it I agree completely, and I think this is the consensus of most people in Switzerland. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
maybe, just maybe the Netherlands, but I think even that is a long shot. | ||
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distant_voice
Germany2521 Posts
On November 30 2009 08:02 Whiplash wrote: I agree completely, and I think this is the consensus of most people in Switzerland. yeah, and Christianity is drinking blood, crusades, inquisitions and witch hunts. be more ignorant please. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On November 30 2009 07:52 Foucault wrote: I don't really see a reason to spread religion in the world to be honest. Islam to me is oppression and women being held down by ridiculous religious beliefs. Of course there are nice things to arabic culture, but Islam is not it As an atheist, I wouldn't mind if everyone chose to be not religious. However, in this case the majority chose to ban the expression of religion in architecture for a minority. Religion is an idea, and we shouldn't ban ideas or the free expression of ideas, no matter how repugnant we think they are. | ||
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keepITup
251 Posts
On November 30 2009 08:04 distant_voice wrote: yeah, and Christianity is drinking blood, crusades, inquisitions and witch hunts. be more ignorant please. come on now, everyone knows that christians nowadays don't follow any of that stuff except for the forgiveness part. everything else is free to individual interpretation! | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On November 30 2009 08:04 distant_voice wrote: yeah, and Christianity is drinking blood, crusades, inquisitions and witch hunts. be more ignorant please. Islam still has honor killings, excuses for rape including blaming the victim, the death penalty for homosexuality, and no rights for women. How many of the Christian things you mentioned are still around? | ||
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
On November 30 2009 08:02 FragKrag wrote: Saturnize I don't think there is a single country in Europe where the majority has no religious beliefs maybe, just maybe the Netherlands, but I think even that is a long shot. Sweden is 85% atheist. | ||
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keepITup
251 Posts
..really? that's kind of cool | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On November 30 2009 07:59 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: I think it is done for security reasons. It is a well known fact that assassins climb on minarets to look where their targets are in the city. LOL... I think it's ok as long as we remove the stacks of hay beneath the minarets. | ||
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