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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
November 29 2009 22:46 GMT
#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8385069.stm

Apparently the swiss voters backed a ban on minarets based on the fact that they are not required by Islam, and are a sign of Islamisation. I really doubt banning the construction of minarets is going to stop any "Islamisation".

Does anybody in Switzerland or even Europe have any information? It didn't really get any airtime in the US. Apparently the government didn't want to do it, but the people did ?_?
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Faronel
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States658 Posts
November 29 2009 22:49 GMT
#2
What did minarets ever do to the Swiss!?

Paranoia like this never gets any positive results.
C'est la vie...
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 29 2009 22:50 GMT
#3
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 22:52:55
November 29 2009 22:52 GMT
#4
I don't really see a reason to spread religion in the world to be honest. Islam to me is oppression and women being held down by ridiculous religious beliefs. Of course there are nice things to arabic culture, but Islam is not it
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
November 29 2009 22:53 GMT
#5
They should ban crosses too then. I don't know how this can be construed in any way other than the Swiss being hostile towards Muslims.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
November 29 2009 22:55 GMT
#6
I don't know how much % of the population must be for it in order to pass, but 57% is pretty steep...

It's not it just barely passed with 1% of the population. I'm not going to say that they have genuine hostility, but definitely fear. The country is like 90% Christian no?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
November 29 2009 22:57 GMT
#7
Lol what? This is just silly. Like the BBC article said, there are only 4 Minarets in Switzerland. Paranoia much?
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 29 2009 22:58 GMT
#8
On November 30 2009 07:53 Jonoman92 wrote:
They should ban crosses too then. I don't know how this can be construed in any way other than the Swiss being hostile towards Muslims.


Hostile? Just because they apparently don't want Islam to spread in Switzerland doesn't make them "hostile".

Interesting thought, Richard Dawkins would most likely support this ban. People aren't always against things just because they are "hostile" or scared of everything new. Those notions are politically correct ideas, and are hostile against free thought.

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REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
November 29 2009 22:59 GMT
#9
I think it is done for security reasons. It is a well known fact that assassins climb on minarets to look where their targets are in the city.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
November 29 2009 22:59 GMT
#10
On November 30 2009 07:55 FragKrag wrote:
I don't know how much % of the population must be for it in order to pass, but 57% is pretty steep...

It's not it just barely passed with 1% of the population. I'm not going to say that they have genuine hostility, but definitely fear. The country is like 90% Christian no?


Most of the country doesn't have religious beliefs.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
keepITup
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
251 Posts
November 29 2009 23:00 GMT
#11
i find this hilariously awesome.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
November 29 2009 23:02 GMT
#12
On November 30 2009 07:52 Foucault wrote:
I don't really see a reason to spread religion in the world to be honest. Islam to me is oppression and women being held down by ridiculous religious beliefs. Of course there are nice things to arabic culture, but Islam is not it


I agree completely, and I think this is the consensus of most people in Switzerland.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
November 29 2009 23:02 GMT
#13
Saturnize I don't think there is a single country in Europe where the majority has no religious beliefs

maybe, just maybe the Netherlands, but I think even that is a long shot.
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distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
November 29 2009 23:04 GMT
#14
On November 30 2009 08:02 Whiplash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 07:52 Foucault wrote:
I don't really see a reason to spread religion in the world to be honest. Islam to me is oppression and women being held down by ridiculous religious beliefs. Of course there are nice things to arabic culture, but Islam is not it


I agree completely, and I think this is the consensus of most people in Switzerland.


yeah, and Christianity is drinking blood, crusades, inquisitions and witch hunts.

be more ignorant please.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 29 2009 23:05 GMT
#15
On November 30 2009 07:52 Foucault wrote:
I don't really see a reason to spread religion in the world to be honest. Islam to me is oppression and women being held down by ridiculous religious beliefs. Of course there are nice things to arabic culture, but Islam is not it

As an atheist, I wouldn't mind if everyone chose to be not religious. However, in this case the majority chose to ban the expression of religion in architecture for a minority. Religion is an idea, and we shouldn't ban ideas or the free expression of ideas, no matter how repugnant we think they are.
keepITup
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
251 Posts
November 29 2009 23:06 GMT
#16
On November 30 2009 08:04 distant_voice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 08:02 Whiplash wrote:
On November 30 2009 07:52 Foucault wrote:
I don't really see a reason to spread religion in the world to be honest. Islam to me is oppression and women being held down by ridiculous religious beliefs. Of course there are nice things to arabic culture, but Islam is not it


I agree completely, and I think this is the consensus of most people in Switzerland.


yeah, and Christianity is drinking blood, crusades, inquisitions and witch hunts.

be more ignorant please.


come on now, everyone knows that christians nowadays don't follow any of that stuff except for the forgiveness part.

everything else is free to individual interpretation!
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 29 2009 23:08 GMT
#17
On November 30 2009 08:04 distant_voice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 08:02 Whiplash wrote:
On November 30 2009 07:52 Foucault wrote:
I don't really see a reason to spread religion in the world to be honest. Islam to me is oppression and women being held down by ridiculous religious beliefs. Of course there are nice things to arabic culture, but Islam is not it


I agree completely, and I think this is the consensus of most people in Switzerland.


yeah, and Christianity is drinking blood, crusades, inquisitions and witch hunts.

be more ignorant please.


Islam still has honor killings, excuses for rape including blaming the victim, the death penalty for homosexuality, and no rights for women.

How many of the Christian things you mentioned are still around?
pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
November 29 2009 23:08 GMT
#18
On November 30 2009 08:02 FragKrag wrote:
Saturnize I don't think there is a single country in Europe where the majority has no religious beliefs

maybe, just maybe the Netherlands, but I think even that is a long shot.


Sweden is 85% atheist.
Wachet, stehet im Glauben, seid männlich und seid stark.
keepITup
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
251 Posts
November 29 2009 23:08 GMT
#19
On November 30 2009 08:08 pubbanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 08:02 FragKrag wrote:
Saturnize I don't think there is a single country in Europe where the majority has no religious beliefs

maybe, just maybe the Netherlands, but I think even that is a long shot.


Sweden is 85% atheist.


..really?

that's kind of cool
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 23:17:52
November 29 2009 23:08 GMT
#20
On November 30 2009 07:59 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
I think it is done for security reasons. It is a well known fact that assassins climb on minarets to look where their targets are in the city.

LOL... I think it's ok as long as we remove the stacks of hay beneath the minarets.
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