EPTgirls need guys.
yet guys have to chase girls.
its such a strange system...
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Zalfor
United States1035 Posts
girls need guys. yet guys have to chase girls. its such a strange system... | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
Guys want to have sex, so they chase after women who seem to not want to have sex. However, women know they want to have sex, so they have to pretend they don't want to have sex so that guys try harder to get them to have sex so that when they finally have sex the guy tries harder and feels like he is the one being blessed because he gets to have sex even though it benefits both of them equally. Men who know that women want to have sex have developed tactics that help circumvent this process in which the man is fooled by the woman's facade, but in doing so men are inadvertently trying just as hard as before but with a different mindset. The women respond to this different mindset by playing into the hands of the men, so the men think they are in control, but many women already know about these tactics and are therefore resisting them but are deceiving the men into THINKING they are in control when really the woman knows what's going on. In effect, this means that they are neutralizing the man's desire to assert dominance in the relationship by giving him the illusion that he already has dominance through his seduction tactics. When more women take this evolutionary step in the chess game that is relationship management, men will have to come up with a new response to the illusory approach of women to the "new" male seduction techniques, which will generate underground hype and lead a few people to moderate success until women make take the obvious counter-measure to any deviation from the pre-existing norm of male behavior. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On October 25 2009 04:12 fanatacist wrote: It's more complex than that man. Guys want to have sex, so they chase after women who seem to not want to have sex. However, women know they want to have sex, so they have to pretend they don't want to have sex so that guys try harder to get them to have sex so that when they finally have sex the guy tries harder and feels like he is the one being blessed because he gets to have sex even though it benefits both of them equally. Men who know that women want to have sex have developed tactics that help circumvent this process in which the man is fooled by the woman's facade, but in doing so men are inadvertently trying just as hard as before but with a different mindset. The women respond to this different mindset by playing into the hands of the men, so the men think they are in control, but many women already know about these tactics and are therefore resisting them but are deceiving the men into THINKING they are in control when really the woman knows what's going on. In effect, this means that they are neutralizing the man's desire to assert dominance in the relationship by giving him the illusion that he already has dominance through his seduction tactics. When more women take this evolutionary step in the chess game that is relationship management, men will have to come up with a new response to the illusory approach of women to the "new" male seduction techniques, which will generate underground hype and lead a few people to moderate success until women make take the obvious counter-measure to any deviation from the pre-existing norm of male behavior. and thus the metagame takes another step forward! Come on men! We need to micro our HTs better!! | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
This is probably not true. | ||
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Assymptotic
United States552 Posts
On October 25 2009 04:49 StorkHwaiting wrote: and thus the metagame takes another step forward! Come on men! We need to micro our HTs better!! I for one believe macro heavy games are the next generation, not micro games. It's easier to win with 10 shots of whiskey in a woman's system and less witty banter, than it is to win with 5 shots of whiskey and witty banter. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On October 25 2009 14:47 Assymptotic wrote: I for one believe macro heavy games are the next generation, not micro games. It's easier to win with 10 shots of whiskey in a woman's system and less witty banter, than it is to win with 5 shots of whiskey and witty banter. While I admire your sentiment, that's no longer witty bantering with a woman. 10 shots of whiskey is more like she's half-catatonic and drooling on herself. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 25 2009 15:04 StorkHwaiting wrote: While I admire your sentiment, that's no longer witty bantering with a woman. 10 shots of whiskey is more like she's half-catatonic and drooling on herself. You don't know the right women, apparently. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
StorkHwaiting wrote: I know women who go to parties take a few shots and get hammered because they aren't accustomed to leaving their habits of drinking only bitch drinks behind. Sorry that my men don't have beards and manly alcohol retention levels. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9013 Posts
Dunno if I should feel lucky or not. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On October 25 2009 23:53 Garnet wrote: Girls get attracted to me very fast but when they get to know the real me they start to hate me :D Dunno if I should feel lucky or not. You have good attraction and netting factor, but either have poor interpersonal relationship management or moral issues. Fix this by treating people a little better than you would normally and watching what you say, also constantly strive to improve yourself (get rid of bad habits, improve manners, get more hobbies, don't get high/drunk too often, etc.). All of these will help with long-term relationships, if you want help that is. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
On October 26 2009 01:58 fanatacist wrote: You have good attraction and netting factor, but either have poor interpersonal relationship management or moral issues. Fix this by treating people a little better than you would normally and watching what you say, also constantly strive to improve yourself (get rid of bad habits, improve manners, get more hobbies, don't get high/drunk too often, etc.). All of these will help with long-term relationships, if you want help that is. That's my problem too, I will attract hot girls then when its time for a relationship I am an asshole and just play sc and don't talk to them or something then they begin to hate me or pretend to friend zone me because they see that I would be a bad boyfriend. Then again thats not too bad of a thing because I dont have to deal with hanging out with one single girl all the time Im a dick | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On October 26 2009 02:31 Hypnosis wrote: That's my problem too, I will attract hot girls then when its time for a relationship I am an asshole and just play sc and don't talk to them or something then they begin to hate me or pretend to friend zone me because they see that I would be a bad boyfriend. Then again thats not too bad of a thing because I dont have to deal with hanging out with one single girl all the time Im a dick Well the thing is if the girl doesn't interest you enough to make time for her over StarCraft, you two weren't really going to have a healthy relationship anyway. Better to let those pass and get new girls. Nothing wrong with that. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
On October 26 2009 03:12 fanatacist wrote: Well the thing is if the girl doesn't interest you enough to make time for her over StarCraft, you two weren't really going to have a healthy relationship anyway. Better to let those pass and get new girls. Nothing wrong with that. Yea i always tell myself that but sometimes i feel pretty bad about it, i just cant force myself to put effort in to make girls feel "special" when i know i could. Maybe I will just have to wait for a girl that really matters to me... It just sucks because they think I dont give a shit about them and I really do, just not enough to try super hard to impress them  ... | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On October 26 2009 03:42 Hypnosis wrote: Yea i always tell myself that but sometimes i feel pretty bad about it, i just cant force myself to put effort in to make girls feel "special" when i know i could. Maybe I will just have to wait for a girl that really matters to me... It just sucks because they think I dont give a shit about them and I really do, just not enough to try super hard to impress them ... Then in their eyes you really don't give a shit about them. It's not a sin to accept that you haven't found someone that makes you act differently, not because you have to try but because they are that special to you that you do it naturally. I think deceiving girls into thinking that they are worth more to you than they really are is worse than showing that you don't care. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
On October 25 2009 04:04 Zalfor wrote: guys don't need girls, they want girls. girls need guys. yet guys have to chase girls. its such a strange system... You don't think girls chase guys?? Oh they do they do | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On October 26 2009 04:58 Hypnosis wrote: I guess there is a fine line between whats worth doing and whats not. I firmly believe that unless you have incredible feelings for someone for a long period of time that you should never pursue anyone if the pursuing makes you change who you are. Then if you finally obtain what you are chasing you fail because you cannot completely change yourself no matter how much you think you can... It just sucks sometimes because it feels like im missing out on so many relationships even though deep down i know it would just hurt me later. I should probably start taking more chances. Chances are not what it's about. If you don't FEEL the need to put in more effort, and are just doing so because you want to make something out what could potentially be nothing, it's a waste of time. | ||
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biomedical
235 Posts
On October 26 2009 04:58 Hypnosis wrote: I guess there is a fine line between whats worth doing and whats not. I firmly believe that unless you have incredible feelings for someone for a long period of time that you should never pursue anyone if the pursuing makes you change who you are. Then if you finally obtain what you are chasing you fail because you cannot completely change yourself no matter how much you think you can... It just sucks sometimes because it feels like im missing out on so many relationships even though deep down i know it would just hurt me later. I should probably start taking more chances. mmm...not sure.... a) success b) confidence c) stories/jokes/a quick mind d) good looks (earning money for a facelift) e) nice stuff/good job f) a lifestyle/job you are happy with g) being knowledgeable h) being ripped i) decent social success/cool friends go earn each and one of those and then if the girl still doesnt like you maybe its time to gg  | ||
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biomedical
235 Posts
On October 26 2009 03:47 fanatacist wrote: Then in their eyes you really don't give a shit about them. It's not a sin to accept that you haven't found someone that makes you act differently, not because you have to try but because they are that special to you that you do it naturally. I think deceiving girls into thinking that they are worth more to you than they really are is worse than showing that you don't care. tbh in contrast to this i think its important to note that many (guys) do find it difficult to "show" their real feelings in a day-to-day setting. just like people who have shitty voices and often sound like theyre being arrogant when in their mind theyre being playful. or people with shitty voices who think theyre being comedic when really they sound annoying and whiney. the guy says he "really does" give a shit - it just doesnt come across like that for whatever multitude of reasons. i sympathise with this and recommend you read books on communication, listening etc. for example: im a great listener (or thought i was). until i met this girl. she told me that i never seem to listen to her and just ignore what she says. i was obv shocked!!! it so happened that "my" way of responding to someone after listening to them was to present an arguement immediately. what "she" wanted to hear, BEFORE an arguement was presented, was confirmation that i'd heard her sentences eg responding frequently with "mmm", "ok", "i understand" and reiterating what she'd said. she just didnt believe that i had taken in what she'd been saying unless i communicated these iois | ||
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