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On October 23 2009 02:14 yooh wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2009 23:44 TheAntZ wrote: Theres this chick that I really like everything about, personality, character, how she looks at things, voice, etc. but shes fat. so my question is...how do i make her lose weight real quick without causing emotional trauma? You're an ass. You don't deserve her. If you liked her for who she is then her being fat shouldn't be an issue. AND PLUS. You're not even her boyfriend, who are you to say? -.- Fat is an issue. Not taking care of yourself is a sign of multiple personality defects. If you can accept those defects, fine. If you think that its a deal breaker, that doesn't make you an 'ass'.
If anything, he's desperate/low self-esteem more than anything else, because there is someone out there who has the exact same set of fantastic qualities without the pitfalls of poor self-maintenance who he simply doesn't believe he can 'get'. The 'I'll fix her' mentality is one that's borne out of the idea that you can't go out and find a 'fixed' version with your own worth, and thus need to do repairing to get what you want.
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On October 22 2009 23:44 TheAntZ wrote: Theres this chick that I really like everything about, personality, character, how she looks at things, voice, etc. but shes fat. so my question is...how do i make her lose weight real quick without causing emotional trauma?
start dating with her and tell her that she's sexy when she's sweating
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So wait... is this thread dead?
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I never bother to pursue women and don't really care about the ones that pursue me. I've dated people, but I just used them for whatever reason- I would enjoy spending time around them or them around me, but I didn't really care about any of them. Is that a problem? I dislike feeling emotional attachments to people. (I have liked a few of them, just not cared. There's a difference).
Right now, I'm trying to stop myself from starting to like a girl who is trying to get me to like her - she doesn't like me more than as friends - it's a power play thing, she has a history and a pattern of doing this to people. I told her that if circumstances were different I would want to date her, just so that she would stop trying as she's very good at it, but we're still both incredibly flirtatious with each other - it's my nature. I never really touch her but she tends to touch me lots of the time.. we're both 20, not that age really matters much.
As for the thread, I dislike it because too many of the people seem to believe in ladder theory. There's a difference between being nice to people as opposed to boring and dependent. So I decided to post my situation because it's very different from the ones people have been posting.
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On October 23 2009 03:28 freelander wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2009 23:44 TheAntZ wrote: Theres this chick that I really like everything about, personality, character, how she looks at things, voice, etc. but shes fat. so my question is...how do i make her lose weight real quick without causing emotional trauma? start dating with her and tell her that she's sexy when she's sweating
You sir, are a genius. brb exploiting and manipulating.
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Rename to Freelander's attraction and relationship tipline.
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On October 23 2009 03:16 L wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2009 02:14 yooh wrote:On October 22 2009 23:44 TheAntZ wrote: Theres this chick that I really like everything about, personality, character, how she looks at things, voice, etc. but shes fat. so my question is...how do i make her lose weight real quick without causing emotional trauma? You're an ass. You don't deserve her. If you liked her for who she is then her being fat shouldn't be an issue. AND PLUS. You're not even her boyfriend, who are you to say? -.- Fat is an issue. Not taking care of yourself is a sign of multiple personality defects. If you can accept those defects, fine. If you think that its a deal breaker, that doesn't make you an 'ass'. If anything, he's desperate/low self-esteem more than anything else, because there is someone out there who has the exact same set of fantastic qualities without the pitfalls of poor self-maintenance who he simply doesn't believe he can 'get'. The 'I'll fix her' mentality is one that's borne out of the idea that you can't go out and find a 'fixed' version with your own worth, and thus need to do repairing to get what you want.
agreed.
man up, find someone else.
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nah man thats easy. it aint worth shit if you dont WORK for it
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On October 23 2009 03:51 Nevuk wrote: I never bother to pursue women and don't really care about the ones that pursue me. I've dated people, but I just used them for whatever reason- I would enjoy spending time around them or them around me, but I didn't really care about any of them. Is that a problem? I dislike feeling emotional attachments to people. (I have liked a few of them, just not cared. There's a difference).
Right now, I'm trying to stop myself from starting to like a girl who is trying to get me to like her - she doesn't like me more than as friends - it's a power play thing, she has a history and a pattern of doing this to people. I told her that if circumstances were different I would want to date her, just so that she would stop trying as she's very good at it, but we're still both incredibly flirtatious with each other - it's my nature. I never really touch her but she tends to touch me lots of the time.. we're both 20, not that age really matters much.
As for the thread, I dislike it because too many of the people seem to believe in ladder theory. There's a difference between being nice to people as opposed to boring and dependent. So I decided to post my situation because it's very different from the ones people have been posting.
its perfectly acceptable to not want to date someone if you dont want to date them , dont really like them etc. eventually you'll come across a woman who is really smart, independant, mature... probably the majority of girls you're around just aren't good enough for you.
its not a problem - look forward to your future, when you start hanging round 27+ year old women..... but be aware that they'll be harder to win since they're older than you and interested in older men!!! (this really sucks actually)
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On October 23 2009 03:51 Nevuk wrote: I never bother to pursue women and don't really care about the ones that pursue me. I've dated people, but I just used them for whatever reason- I would enjoy spending time around them or them around me, but I didn't really care about any of them. Is that a problem? I dislike feeling emotional attachments to people. (I have liked a few of them, just not cared. There's a difference).
Right now, I'm trying to stop myself from starting to like a girl who is trying to get me to like her - she doesn't like me more than as friends - it's a power play thing, she has a history and a pattern of doing this to people. I told her that if circumstances were different I would want to date her, just so that she would stop trying as she's very good at it, but we're still both incredibly flirtatious with each other - it's my nature. I never really touch her but she tends to touch me lots of the time.. we're both 20, not that age really matters much.
As for the thread, I dislike it because too many of the people seem to believe in ladder theory. There's a difference between being nice to people as opposed to boring and dependent. So I decided to post my situation because it's very different from the ones people have been posting.
So.... what's the question here?
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On October 23 2009 03:51 Nevuk wrote: I never bother to pursue women and don't really care about the ones that pursue me. I've dated people, but I just used them for whatever reason- I would enjoy spending time around them or them around me, but I didn't really care about any of them. Is that a problem? I dislike feeling emotional attachments to people. (I have liked a few of them, just not cared. There's a difference).
Right now, I'm trying to stop myself from starting to like a girl who is trying to get me to like her - she doesn't like me more than as friends - it's a power play thing, she has a history and a pattern of doing this to people. I told her that if circumstances were different I would want to date her, just so that she would stop trying as she's very good at it, but we're still both incredibly flirtatious with each other - it's my nature. I never really touch her but she tends to touch me lots of the time.. we're both 20, not that age really matters much.
As for the thread, I dislike it because too many of the people seem to believe in ladder theory. There's a difference between being nice to people as opposed to boring and dependent. So I decided to post my situation because it's very different from the ones people have been posting. you know the more you resist the harder she'll try
the easiest/best thing you can do is just stop hanging out with her
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On October 23 2009 08:25 yooh wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2009 03:51 Nevuk wrote: I never bother to pursue women and don't really care about the ones that pursue me. I've dated people, but I just used them for whatever reason- I would enjoy spending time around them or them around me, but I didn't really care about any of them. Is that a problem? I dislike feeling emotional attachments to people. (I have liked a few of them, just not cared. There's a difference).
Right now, I'm trying to stop myself from starting to like a girl who is trying to get me to like her - she doesn't like me more than as friends - it's a power play thing, she has a history and a pattern of doing this to people. I told her that if circumstances were different I would want to date her, just so that she would stop trying as she's very good at it, but we're still both incredibly flirtatious with each other - it's my nature. I never really touch her but she tends to touch me lots of the time.. we're both 20, not that age really matters much.
As for the thread, I dislike it because too many of the people seem to believe in ladder theory. There's a difference between being nice to people as opposed to boring and dependent. So I decided to post my situation because it's very different from the ones people have been posting. So.... what's the question here? Basically, how do you prevent yourself from liking someone?
There does appear to be interest on both sides, it would just be a totally unworkable relationship and would be terrible for both of us. As for not hanging out, we have several classes together and it would be difficult to do. We don't hang out very often outside of class, besides eating between them and when random things come up like her needing stuff moved or wanting a ride somewhere (because I'm a dick, I make her pay me to do those things).
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On October 23 2009 10:33 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2009 08:25 yooh wrote:On October 23 2009 03:51 Nevuk wrote: I never bother to pursue women and don't really care about the ones that pursue me. I've dated people, but I just used them for whatever reason- I would enjoy spending time around them or them around me, but I didn't really care about any of them. Is that a problem? I dislike feeling emotional attachments to people. (I have liked a few of them, just not cared. There's a difference).
Right now, I'm trying to stop myself from starting to like a girl who is trying to get me to like her - she doesn't like me more than as friends - it's a power play thing, she has a history and a pattern of doing this to people. I told her that if circumstances were different I would want to date her, just so that she would stop trying as she's very good at it, but we're still both incredibly flirtatious with each other - it's my nature. I never really touch her but she tends to touch me lots of the time.. we're both 20, not that age really matters much.
As for the thread, I dislike it because too many of the people seem to believe in ladder theory. There's a difference between being nice to people as opposed to boring and dependent. So I decided to post my situation because it's very different from the ones people have been posting. So.... what's the question here? Basically, how do you prevent yourself from liking someone? There does appear to be interest on both sides, it would just be a totally unworkable relationship and would be terrible for both of us. As for not hanging out, we have several classes together and it would be difficult to do. We don't hang out very often outside of class, besides eating between them and when random things come up like her needing stuff moved or wanting a ride somewhere (because I'm a dick, I make her pay me to do those things).
Just do what you need to do, make her pay for the same stuff just and talk to her casually, act like a robot to her and don't let your emotions take the best out of you. Been in the same case before, and she won, made a real muppet out of me.
She will stop doing this once she feels that you don't show any interest to her. Don't suck on her ego!
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On October 23 2009 10:40 Licmyobelisk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2009 10:33 Nevuk wrote:On October 23 2009 08:25 yooh wrote:On October 23 2009 03:51 Nevuk wrote: I never bother to pursue women and don't really care about the ones that pursue me. I've dated people, but I just used them for whatever reason- I would enjoy spending time around them or them around me, but I didn't really care about any of them. Is that a problem? I dislike feeling emotional attachments to people. (I have liked a few of them, just not cared. There's a difference).
Right now, I'm trying to stop myself from starting to like a girl who is trying to get me to like her - she doesn't like me more than as friends - it's a power play thing, she has a history and a pattern of doing this to people. I told her that if circumstances were different I would want to date her, just so that she would stop trying as she's very good at it, but we're still both incredibly flirtatious with each other - it's my nature. I never really touch her but she tends to touch me lots of the time.. we're both 20, not that age really matters much.
As for the thread, I dislike it because too many of the people seem to believe in ladder theory. There's a difference between being nice to people as opposed to boring and dependent. So I decided to post my situation because it's very different from the ones people have been posting. So.... what's the question here? Basically, how do you prevent yourself from liking someone? There does appear to be interest on both sides, it would just be a totally unworkable relationship and would be terrible for both of us. As for not hanging out, we have several classes together and it would be difficult to do. We don't hang out very often outside of class, besides eating between them and when random things come up like her needing stuff moved or wanting a ride somewhere (because I'm a dick, I make her pay me to do those things). Just do what you need to do, make her pay for the same stuff just and talk to her casually, act like a robot to her and don't let your emotions take the best out of you. Been in the same case before, and she won, made a real muppet out of me. She will stop doing this once she feels that you don't show any interest to her. Don't suck on her ego!
Totally agreed. But at the same time, why do you want to force yourself out of love...? Not like love love, but you know, like feelings of attraction and the joy that comes out of it. If you seriously like someone, don't be afraid to love... And if she's just playing you, ask yourself why you even like her in the first place then. There's nothing that stops attraction if its there. You can run but chu can't hideeeeee
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Nevuk you never know until you try. If you have chemistry it's for a reason. That reason is usually not some divine irony where you both like each other but would have a terrible relationship. Mutual attraction can make even polar opposite personalities mesh well. My suggestion is to keep playing hard to get, then one night you stop caring and have the best sex you've had in a while, and then see where it goes from there. If it doesn't work out, at least you had good sex. If it does work out, you're going to have more sex later. Isn't that what we all instinctively desire?
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On October 23 2009 23:39 fanatacist wrote: Nevuk you never know until you try. If you have chemistry it's for a reason. That reason is usually not some divine irony where you both like each other but would have a terrible relationship. Mutual attraction can make even polar opposite personalities mesh well. My suggestion is to keep playing hard to get, then one night you stop caring and have the best sex you've had in a while, and then see where it goes from there. If it doesn't work out, at least you had good sex. If it does work out, you're going to have more sex later. Isn't that what we all instinctively desire?
We all instinctively desire it, but I don't think it is the "driving force" behind what pushes some men into relationships. Guys certainly get "butterflies" over things not sexually related when it comes to women I believe.
edit: changed "most men" to "some men" in retrospect LOL
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On October 23 2009 23:56 Romance_us wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2009 23:39 fanatacist wrote: Nevuk you never know until you try. If you have chemistry it's for a reason. That reason is usually not some divine irony where you both like each other but would have a terrible relationship. Mutual attraction can make even polar opposite personalities mesh well. My suggestion is to keep playing hard to get, then one night you stop caring and have the best sex you've had in a while, and then see where it goes from there. If it doesn't work out, at least you had good sex. If it does work out, you're going to have more sex later. Isn't that what we all instinctively desire? We all instinctively desire it, but I don't think it is the "driving force" behind what pushes some men into relationships. Guys certainly get "butterflies" over things not sexually related when it comes to women I believe. edit: changed "most men" to "some men" in retrospect LOL What I'm trying to say is this is a win-win situation under a thin veil of disguise. Sex is still better than no sex, and in the long run a failed relationship can be harmless if you approach it with a level mind.
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On October 23 2009 03:37 Pokebunny wrote: So wait... is this thread dead?
I haven't made the new one yet. But it will happen soon.
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Also, I am glad to see that I am recieving PMs every day still, keep it up until the new thread comes. If you would like a question answered by me, PM it to me. I wont be active much on this thread, but much more on the new thread after I make it.
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 23 2009 00:38 Licmyobelisk wrote:Hello! I've been reading this thread and I found alot of great advice, I'm just going to ask a very simple question: How do you bring out the Bi-sexual in a woman, one of my wish list before I die is that I want to have three-way sex with two chicks and me only.. So like, what advice can you give to me for me to bring out that "dude" within my girl? I mean, she has a tendency of being very,very appreciative of beautiful women.. which of course I want to use in my advantage but she doesn't want to share me to somebody else.. Man, I'm going to try out your advice but if it doesn't work it's pretty ok.. I've tried before just that it my style doesn't seem to work. Also, please include that living in a Christian Country, the women here are very conservative even the prostitutes (no kidding). Like I wanted to try 2 on 1 battle with them on the bed, but one told me she can't do it because the girl she was with wasn't her bestfriend, man, her bestfriend look's like it would look like a manage-de-twa between two men and 1 girl. But anyway, enough of that story.. I would like to ask for anytips regarding this.. I am a man of goals and love, and love-making is one of them. Thank you very very much! The Obelisk Yes, I would also like this song to be part of the love: Answer this man!
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