In Canada, self-defense laws would convict the student here. It is very hard to get away killing somebody and proclaiming it was self-defense, the burglar needed to have something equivalent to a sword for the student to get away with no charges. I'm not agreeing with this here, I don't think the student should be charged but just be wary that the United States does things differently than other parts of the world. Just noting if this thread becomes a huge debate.

Polyphasic

United States841 Posts

September 16 2009 01:56 GMT

#42

On September 16 2009 10:03 sith wrote:

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No such thing when someone is in your house stealing your shit. And besides, it's not like he hacked away at him, it was one strike and it just happened to be a good one.

ya, the burglar dived at him. anything short of defending himself would have resulted in being beat the shit up. besides, the burglar would have stolen the sword and who knows what the burglar would do then.

Johnny B

United States76 Posts

September 16 2009 02:02 GMT

#43

On September 16 2009 10:07 FragKrag wrote:
shut up micro without me you wouldn't have this beautiful article

Not for 40 whole minutes he wouldn't:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=102029

@Thread title:
Samurai kills the "if," ninja kills the "and," assassin kills the "but"!

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So whenever I got a scolding, my parents expected me to become a samurai-ninja-assassin.
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'Cause parents say "No ifs, ands, or buts."

BanZu

United States3329 Posts

September 16 2009 02:03 GMT

#44

The thief would've taken the samurai sword and stabbed the student himself.

Completely justified murder.

FabledIntegral

United States9232 Posts

September 16 2009 02:04 GMT

#45

I would have done the same thing. I think as soon as someone breaks and enters onto someone else's property their life is forfeit, for the simple reason that the resident of the house shouldn't have to try and discern whether or not the person breaking and entering is threatening their life.

For example I go downstairs to see someone prowling, my automatic assumption is they are armed with a firearm. Whether or not it's true, I'm not going to get closer and try to find out. I'm going to take him out if possible (or run away really scared and call the police as he takes off with my shit).

funkie

Venezuela9376 Posts

September 16 2009 02:10 GMT

#46

that guy Bakai'd the shit out of that intruder.

Nerd Samurai 1 - 0 Thiefs.

Beware Baltimore thiefs, Nerd samurai has arriveddddd

SOB_Maj_Brian

United States522 Posts

September 16 2009 02:10 GMT

#47

I believe the castle doctrine applies, which allows one to use deadly force to defend one's self on one's dwelling place. I believe the garage is considered part of the dwelling place, so the samurai should not be prosecuted.

Ideas

United States8148 Posts

September 16 2009 02:15 GMT

#48

I can't believe that guy went in and out of jail so frequently. Really shows the problem with the criminal justice system :\

Also, the police are just making sure that the kid's story about the burglar lunging at him is true. The burglar could of (but probably not) put his hands up and surrendered but then the kid just slashed him anyway killing him and then say that he lunged at him. It's happened a lot before (except with a gun and not a sword LOL). He'll probably be released pretty soon.

ReDShiFT

United States106 Posts

September 16 2009 02:18 GMT

#49

It's Baltimore, so, I would definitely assume that a thief has a gun if i was the student. My bet is on no charges pressed.

meegrean

Thailand7699 Posts

September 16 2009 02:22 GMT

#50

He underestimated his one-slash-kill capabilities.

Sprite

United States1015 Posts

September 16 2009 02:22 GMT

#51

I hope no charges are passed. Student has the right to defend himself, lethal force possibly accidental was still necessary.

skronch

United States2717 Posts

September 16 2009 02:27 GMT

#52

On September 16 2009 10:30 micronesia wrote:

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There is no reason to use such an approach to justifying whichever side you align with. Whether if he was a repeated criminal or not does not change how the law should deal with this incident.

that's why i don't make the laws

(and it's probably a good thing)

but as a student, i have a much easier time empathizing with a peer. like it's really scary how you can be a 'good' citizen your entire life, but one crazy fucked up incident can mess up the rest of your life. for his sake, i hope that this whole situation doesn't get too messy.

AssuredVacancy

United States1167 Posts

September 16 2009 02:27 GMT

#53

Lol is it just me, or is the daily top thread on reddit gets posted here on TL? This is like the 4th time it's happened.

theron[wdt]

United States395 Posts

September 16 2009 02:34 GMT

#54

unnecessary force my ass. someone stealing my shit and i find out, i'm pulling out my 12 gauge and telling him to hit the floor. and if he twitches the wrong way, lets just say that im not gonna get the security deposit back for my apartment.

iloveHieu

United States1919 Posts

September 16 2009 02:35 GMT

#55

How's what you get for breaking in someone's house, I'd rather shoot the stranger before he harms my family and myself.

Well deserved.

Saddened Izzy

United States198 Posts

September 16 2009 02:46 GMT

#56

What's wrong with that kid he doesn't own a bat like a normal person but instead keeps a samurai sword by his bedside.

Unless he saw a gun or some sort of weapon from the guy seriously something wrong there the kid fucked up the situation even more by bring a sword, if it was a gun it be a different story he lunges at him he get shot depending on the shoot the guy dies in a min or in a few hours, but a sword is just asking for some fucked up shit.

Sorry but my logic works unless the guy was like 8 feet tall and was built like Eugen Sandow that is excessive force in my rule book.

The kid is confident enough to slash away at the guy but can't think like listening to the door opening it seeing the thief then running to call the police, it is not up to the kid to confront the thief unless he believes he can control the situation which he obviously could not. Obviously that college education isn't doing much for his critical thinking. #rant rant rant#

BlackJack

United States10574 Posts

September 16 2009 02:47 GMT

#57

I hope this kid gets the electric chair. NOBODY has the right to take another person's life.

MamiyaOtaru

United States1687 Posts

September 16 2009 02:52 GMT

#58

if someone is taking my stuff, I don't have to let him. If someone jumps at me (after proving he is a criminal by breaking into my house) I don't need to ask him politely what his intentions are, then sit down with a spreadsheet and come up with the least amount of force necessary to subdue the guy, especially when my calculation, if wrong, could lead to me being dead.

Guy jumped at student, student defended. End of story. No wrong doing. If the burglar didn't want to get sworded, he could have not lunged, or better yet, not broken into a house with the intention of stealing shit.

FabledIntegral

United States9232 Posts

September 16 2009 02:52 GMT

#59

On September 16 2009 11:46 Saddened Izzy wrote:
What's wrong with that kid he doesn't own a bat like a normal person but instead keeps a samurai sword by his bed side. Unless he saw a gun or some sort of weapon from the guy seriously something wrong there the kid fucked up the situation even more by bring a sword, if it was a gun it be a different story he lunges at him he get shot depending on the shoot the guy dies in a min or in a few hours, but a sword is just asking for some fucked up shit. Sorry but my logic works unless the guy was like 8 feet tall and was built like Eugen Sandow that is excessive force in my rule book the kid is confident enough to slash away at the guy but can't think like listening to the door opening it seeing the thief then running to call the police, it is not up to the kid to confront the thief unless he believes he can control the situation which he obviously could not. Obviously that college education isn't doing much for his critical thinking. #rant rant rant#

If he calls the police - the robber gets away in time, and you lose your shit. Why would you have to see a gun if someone broke into your place to steal your stuff. You take the pussy way out like you're saying, you just lost $50-100 of stuff.

I'd sooner kill the guy who broke into my property in the first place, who most likely wouldn't hesitate to use force against me. That is assuming I had the chance. I might call the police simply out of fear, but just because this kid didn't, doesn't mean he made the wrong choice imo.

AcrossFiveJulys

United States3612 Posts

September 16 2009 02:54 GMT

#60

On September 16 2009 11:47 BlackJack wrote:
I hope this kid gets the electric chair. NOBODY has the right to take another person's life.