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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
September 16 2009 01:11 GMT
#21
It's perfectly fine to shoot someone who invaded your house as a means of self defense. Defending your house with a sword is the same thing, so the guy shouldn't get prosecuted. But you're supposed to use as little force as possible in order to defend yourself, that's where it'll get complicated.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-16 01:12:13
September 16 2009 01:11 GMT
#22
On September 16 2009 10:07 ForSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 10:06 Megalisk wrote:
On September 16 2009 10:01 SanguineToss wrote:
On September 16 2009 09:53 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
press charges why?


? Unnecessary force.


Some asshole comes in to your house and tries to rob your stuff, if he saw you he wouldn't hesitate at all to hurt you, so it had to be done, and judging by his record, he should've been taken out of society a long time ago.

I'm gonna get a sword when I get a house, here in Texas I don't have to worry about owning a burglar on my property :D.

Or you could get a gun like a non self deluded human being.


Well I'm obviously gonna have a gun.

On September 16 2009 10:11 T.O.P. wrote:
It's perfectly fine to shoot someone who invaded your house as a means of self defense. Defending your house with a sword is the same thing, so the guy shouldn't get prosecuted. But you're supposed to use as little force as possible in order to defend yourself, that's where it'll get complicated.


He could just use the "he was coming right for me!" defense....
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Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
September 16 2009 01:12 GMT
#23
is it just me, or is "thief" spelled wrong :O
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
September 16 2009 01:12 GMT
#24
On September 16 2009 10:12 Polar_Nada wrote:
is it just me, or is "thief" spelled wrong :O


I before E except after C..and some other cases....it's spelled correctly.

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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
September 16 2009 01:16 GMT
#25
On September 16 2009 10:12 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 10:12 Polar_Nada wrote:
is it just me, or is "thief" spelled wrong :O


I before E except after C..and some other cases....it's spelled correctly.


lol what? It's 'thief'
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-16 01:17:07
September 16 2009 01:16 GMT
#26
On September 16 2009 10:16 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 10:12 Megalisk wrote:
On September 16 2009 10:12 Polar_Nada wrote:
is it just me, or is "thief" spelled wrong :O


I before E except after C..and some other cases....it's spelled correctly.


lol what? It's 'thief'


LOL brain fart!
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DN2perfectionGM
Profile Joined August 2004
United States233 Posts
September 16 2009 01:22 GMT
#27
Dear Students, Faculty and Staff:

By now, many of you have heard of an incident that occurred in the early hours of this morning in which an intruder was killed at a student’s off-campus residence. While the facts are under investigation, I am relieved to report that the student was not harmed.

............

Sincerely,

Susan Boswell

Dean of Student Life

JHU
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
September 16 2009 01:24 GMT
#28
It's legal to use a gun to defend yourself against an invader as a means of self defense. Using a sword to defend yourself is no different, the police shouldn't press charges. However, you are supposed to use the least amount of force to defend yourself, the police could argue that the student did not need to kill the thief.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
September 16 2009 01:24 GMT
#29
fuck you guys im too good for you all
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MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
September 16 2009 01:25 GMT
#30
A guy lunged at him.

He reacted and cut his arm.

I could understand if he stabbed him in the chest or the face that you could prove he was "intending to kill", but there is no f*cking natural reaction other then hacking at someone's hand if they're lunging to grab you. The guy protected himself and the criminal got his just desserts.

If you don't want to think of it that way, then think of it this way:

What message do you send to criminals if you convict this guy (the student)?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-16 01:30:03
September 16 2009 01:28 GMT
#31
On September 16 2009 10:24 T.O.P. wrote:
It's legal to use a gun to defend yourself against an invader as a means of self defense. Using a sword to defend yourself is no different, the police shouldn't press charges. However, you are supposed to use the least amount of force to defend yourself, the police could argue that the student did not need to kill the thief.

What do you mean 'least amount of force?' Maybe you just shouldn't use 'unnecessary force' or force when it isn't needed (thief leaves house and is running away you shouldn't snipe him).

Unless there is important information missing from the article (which the readers shouldn't have any reason to believe?) there is no reason for this to be a controversy. His home was invaded, he was attacked by the invader (pending investigation of if the student's story checks out), and he used the sword to defend himself. There is no reason to second guess the nature of how he used the sword so long as no specific contrary evidence turns up.

edit: If everything was the same except the sword was illegal, then he wouldn't be any more liable for the death of the invader in my opinion... he would merely be at risk of whatever penalties the sword restriction held.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
September 16 2009 01:29 GMT
#32
"Police have also not formally released the name of the suspected burglar, but a department source identified the man as Donald D. Rice, 49, of the 600 block of E. 27th St. in Baltimore. Guglielmi said the suspect had 29 prior convictions for crimes such as breaking and entering, and had been released Saturday from the Baltimore County Detention Center after he was arrested by county police in August 2008 for stealing a car in Baltimore. Rice was found guilty in December on one count of unauthorized removal of property, and he was sentenced to 18 months in prison."

it's not like this guy was a contributing member to society anyways....
don't press charges imo
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
September 16 2009 01:30 GMT
#33
On September 16 2009 10:29 skronch wrote:
"Police have also not formally released the name of the suspected burglar, but a department source identified the man as Donald D. Rice, 49, of the 600 block of E. 27th St. in Baltimore. Guglielmi said the suspect had 29 prior convictions for crimes such as breaking and entering, and had been released Saturday from the Baltimore County Detention Center after he was arrested by county police in August 2008 for stealing a car in Baltimore. Rice was found guilty in December on one count of unauthorized removal of property, and he was sentenced to 18 months in prison."

it's not like this guy was a contributing member to society anyways....
don't press charges imo

There is no reason to use such an approach to justifying whichever side you align with. Whether if he was a repeated criminal or not does not change how the law should deal with this incident.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
September 16 2009 01:36 GMT
#34
That's true micro. I mean its not like the guy knew who the guy was, he just knew he was getting robbed, not that the guy had pulled a gun on a cop a few months earlier. However bias is unavoidable most of the time. If he killed another student there would probably be more of an issue.
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
September 16 2009 01:39 GMT
#35
On September 16 2009 10:24 T.O.P. wrote:
It's legal to use a gun to defend yourself against an invader as a means of self defense. Using a sword to defend yourself is no different, the police shouldn't press charges. However, you are supposed to use the least amount of force to defend yourself, the police could argue that the student did not need to kill the thief.


It doesn't sound like he killed him on purpose. One swing seems like the least possible when you have a god damn sword. The police can't argue anything.
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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
September 16 2009 01:40 GMT
#36
Guns don't kill people. Samurai swords kill people.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32275 Posts
September 16 2009 01:42 GMT
#37
不運
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
September 16 2009 01:48 GMT
#38
Argentinian kills thraed
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Leg[end]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States241 Posts
September 16 2009 01:49 GMT
#39
On September 16 2009 10:10 A3iL3r0n wrote:
after reading this article, tarantino's movies just became a little less over the top.


/this
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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
September 16 2009 01:55 GMT
#40
Awesome lol. I have a samurai sword in my room, don't ask me why I just do. o_o
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