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pyrogenetix
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Triple7
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grobo
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On September 08 2009 00:17 Triple7 wrote: Japan's third most popular soft drink features the Simpsons. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK8ysrkTyhY&feature=related And Japan's most popular dish soap also features the Simpsons! ![[image loading]](http://static.zoovy.com/img/gkworld/-/S/ssim0100.jpg) | ||
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Ronald_McD
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
On September 07 2009 07:20 ArvickHero wrote: I really liked all those older cartoons, like Rocko's Modern Life, Hey Arnold, Invader Zim, Rugrats, Catdog, Dexter's Laboratory, Courage, Ed Edd and Eddy, etc etc etc. There were a lot of really great cartoons made in the US. However I really don't think those garner that much interest outside of the US, especially in Japan. i wouldn't really consider those older cartoons unless you are talking for people ages 14-16 and under? On September 07 2009 08:00 FabledIntegral wrote: Southpark is quite popular. And I don't think Japanese anime is THAT popular really, I can't say for sure as I don't watch it much, but honestly almost EVERYONE I know that watches anime at ALL is Asian. I don't know a single white friend that enjoys Japanese anime. almost everyone that i know from the U.S. who watches anime is white, i actually know more black guys who watch anime than asians | ||
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
On September 07 2009 09:13 phyre112 wrote: To be completely honest, until I got to college about a week ago, I didn't know what anime WAS. And I can't say I'm at all impressed with what I've found, so the arguement about it being better quality is entirely relative. The average quality of animes is really low. Most animes are completely generic and produced by reusing over and over the same ingredients that are known to please viewers the best. It's much like salad really - just replace tuna fish by hot girls (one of each type: cute, shy, stern, etc), corn by one average guy, lettuce by shiny magic, mayonnaise by random fights, etc. I'm quite surprised you didn't like it though. Usually, the new-factor makes even terrible animes pretty enjoyable for some time. I know that when I was a student I watched a lot of really shitty anime I wouldn't even think about watching today, and genuinely liked it. In any case, I hope you won't cast away the entire anime genre. It's incredibly diverse and there are quite a lot of gems inside. I think anyone can at least find 4-5 series that he'll really really love. The problem is to find them out. :/ -- On topic, when I was five years old I watched Dragon Ball on the most mainstream french TV channel and it was epic as fuck but anime on television doesn't seem to have grown much since then (I might be wrong since I haven't had a TV for nine years). But how good is TV to measure people's interest nowadays? Especially when young people are concerned. The people my age often know about some animes and they sure as fuck didn't watch it on national TV. I'm actually under the impression that the TV is aimed more and more at two categories of people: the 50+, who watch TV because they're used to it, and children, who watch TV because don't know yet how to download stuff'n shit. Anime really doesn't fit these two categories. Quite a lot of cartoons do though. That might explain why there's still more cartoons than animes on national tv today. | ||
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Alizee-
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starflash
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
On September 09 2009 04:15 Alizee- wrote: Like I said before, I think it simply boils down to nationalism. Not the perceived political psychos, I mean they have pride in things that come from their country and its a fairly closed society. Look at people who do cosplay, what equivalent do the japanese do that echoes american trends to such a scale? I think a lot of it boils down to american kids wanna be nonconformist so they find out about things that are different in the norm, and what's further than the norm than being interested in cultural things from the other side of the world? Dunno how it is in the USA, but in France, being interested in japanese manga and anime is quite in the norm for people aged 15-25. And despite this fall into mainstream, people haven't been switching to other more exotic destinations. Interest for icelandic culture hasn't been growing as of late. So I really doubt nonconformism is the reason. I just think that japanese mangas and animes are fresh, entertaining, diverse, sometimes even good, and there is always a lot a new stuff coming out - whereas traditional comics and cartoons, both american or european, just look like they're the same tired old names we already discovered twenty years ago as kids. | ||
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ForSC2
United States580 Posts
On September 09 2009 04:15 Alizee- wrote: Like I said before, I think it simply boils down to nationalism. Not the perceived political psychos, I mean they have pride in things that come from their country and its a fairly closed society. Look at people who do cosplay, what equivalent do the japanese do that echoes american trends to such a scale? I think a lot of it boils down to american kids wanna be nonconformist so they find out about things that are different in the norm, and what's further than the norm than being interested in cultural things from the other side of the world? Just about every non third world country gets American television and has every student learning English as a second language. You can watch every top box office hit in Japan, even the movie Pearl Harbor was released in Japanese theaters even though it was edited. Most countries have some degree of American obsession that isn't often reciprocated with Japanese Anime being an exception. This is a video of Japan's biggest Harry Potter fan meeting Daniel Radcliffe for the first time, it is god damn creepy. There are also videos of her meeting Emma Watson and that ginger kid whose name I can't remember. I realize Harry Potter is not from the US it's simply an example from another country I know of off the top of my head. It isn't that Japan is so nationalistic that they won't accept any trends from the US. Japan is actually really really big on America. An Intro from the first post from www.gaijinsmash.net a blogish website about a Black American teaching English to middle school students in Japan You see, Japan's an island no bigger than California, and information about the rest of the world is filtered. There are so few foreigners here, their only impressions of things outside Japan are from the media. And to be honest, they don't really give a damn about anything other than America. So try to imagine a country where the national perception of you is created by American movies, music, and MTV. When you stop crying and shaking at the sheer horror of that thought, I'll be here waiting. When you ask "Look at people who do cosplay, what equivalent do the japanese do that echoes american trends to such a scale?" ask yourself "what equivalent do the americans do that echoes american trends to such a scale?" There aren't many cartoons in America geared toward people over 16 aside from some exceptions like The Simpsons which is actually very popular in Japan. So if I wanted to compare something similar aged people would watch what shows would I look for? Lost, 24, Desperate Housewives? Do these shows have obsessive trend followings? Have you ever seen a convention where everyone cosplays Jack Bauer and terrorists? Even if you wanted to get so into these shows that you'd cosplay these people it's not animated and they wear different clothes every show. The most you could do would be a slightly built guy with the same haircut. No one would be able to tell you were trying to be this guy unless there was an elaborate costume. If you want to look for something to compare equivalent trends on such a scale look for things that some Americans flock to with the same enthusiasm as die hard anime fans. If you want my opinion I think a show like Twilight could make it huge in Japan given how many teenage girls are absolutely crazy about it. I'd want to say shows like Star Wars and Star Trek, but those are as huge as they are now due to people seeing it when they first came out. If you showed the original Star Trek in Japan today they might not see it in the same ground breaking light. And it's obvious there are some things some Japanese people have gone absolutely crazy over such as that Harry Potter fan. As soon as I finished this post I realized you were that creepy guy that wrote about fish blender porn. Shit I did not want to talk to you. | ||
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Polyphasic
United States841 Posts
oh, and the idea of a culture that thinks of us completely based on TV and MTV is like, holy shit. haha | ||
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Polyphasic
United States841 Posts
On September 08 2009 00:17 Triple7 wrote: Japan's third most popular soft drink features the Simpsons. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK8ysrkTyhY&feature=related is this for real? i thought it was a joke. i ... realy... don't know ... anymore | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
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spoolinoveryou
United States503 Posts
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rockon1215
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Rjx5(LT)
Canada27 Posts
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lithium2006
United States1 Post
On September 07 2009 07:26 hku wrote: protip: Shows in the vain of Ren and Stimpy and Rocko's modern life are NOT great. They are gross. RML and R&S are considered among the best animated shows of the 1990s and are still revered today. To view them as gross tells me you really haven't watched much of either show. RML had a satirical social commentary while Ren and Stimpy pushed the boundaries cartoons could go. Shows like Ren and Stimpy and Rocko were like the grunge bands of american animation. If you look at cartoons from the 80s, very few weren't extended toy commercials or unique enough to stand out. Shows like R&S and RML, though intended for kids, had a lot of adult oriented subjects (not talking about the sexual innuendos). User was warned for this post | ||
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