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Failsafe
United States1298 Posts
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qaswedfr25
United States212 Posts
[B+ Show Spoiler + [/B]]On August 26 2009 02:55 jello_biafra wrote: On August 26 2009 02:48 Avidkeystamper wrote: Don't a lot of numbers share the same tone? Like 147, 2580, and 369? No but it's done in quite a ridiculous way so they sound similar but are actually different, very difficult for the human ear to differentiate them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_keypad It's much more pronounced on cellphones but if you play numbers with similar tones one after the other it's easier to notice even when you don't have perfect pitch. For instance, I can kind of hear what the kid is describing when I telephone a number I call a lot (like my best friend or my mom), but it's more habituation from calling at least once a day than super hearing sense. | ||
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EsX_Raptor
United States2802 Posts
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MutaDoom
Canada1163 Posts
On August 25 2009 15:54 Disregard wrote: Jeff Daniels, a former phreaker who befriended Weigman on a chat line. "When you're a blind little tubby bald kid in a broke-ass family, and you have that one ability to make yourself feel good, what do you expect to happen?" edit: Thats some harsh words for describing the kid. Harsh, but almost necessary. He's kind of a piece of shit if he's using his | ||
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mastuh
United States64 Posts
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koreasilver
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On August 25 2009 21:19 Machine leg wrote: probably just lazy westerners that study music for fun while the chinese in this case has alot more pressure and study alot harder and achieve this perfect pitch. You don't really achieve perfect pitch. Relative pitch, yes, but not perfect pitch. | ||
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Crimson
United States311 Posts
On August 26 2009 14:17 koreasilver wrote: You don't really achieve perfect pitch. Relative pitch, yes, but not perfect pitch. What would you call "perfect pitch" and "relative pitch"? For example, when tuning my guitar, I do not use a tuner (when not on stage) because I can hear the pitch in my head. Would this be "perfect pitch" since I am not comparing the the specific pitch I hear in my head? | ||
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FragKrag
United States11566 Posts
then again if he had it we wouldn't have his commentaries | ||
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tossinYoSalad
United States215 Posts
perfect pitch is being able to tell what any note is regardless of where it comes from. people with true perfect pitch can listen to a chord with 13 notes in it and be able to tell you what they all are, and replicate the chord. this is,of course a very specific example, but it applies to anything involving tones (i.e phones dialing), it's quite impressive to have perfect pitch, and true perfect pitch is NOT able to be learned. "fake" perfect pitch you can learn, for instance, having someone play a note on a piano and you being able to tell what note that is. but you have to be born with TRUE perfect pitch. | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
The guy who lit the newspapers on fire was by far the most bad ass and I definitely want to know how he does that. If it wasn't illusionism, he'd be one million dollars richer by now. + Show Spoiler + The only questionable statement in the above article being the sentence "The money is held in the form of immediately negotiable bonds held by Goldman Sachs, a highly respected investment firm." but I guess that was written before... you know... | ||
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NExUS1g
United States254 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
On August 26 2009 14:29 tossinYoSalad wrote: this is,of course a very specific example, but it applies to anything involving tones (i.e phones dialing), it's quite impressive to have perfect pitch, and true perfect pitch is NOT able to be learned. "fake" perfect pitch you can learn, for instance, having someone play a note on a piano and you being able to tell what note that is. but you have to be born with TRUE perfect pitch. what's your argument or evidence for that? i think we all understand that east asians brought up in east asia have a greater likelihood of having perfect pitch than east asians brought up in america. the hypothesis is that it's due to the environment, specifically hearing/learning tonal language as an infant. but whether or not that's the case, it seems clear that if changing the environment of childhood has a demonstrated effect on the frequency of perfect pitch in people, then perfect pitch is definitely learned and not purely genetic. i think the fact that adults have failed to artifically learn perfect pitch is not evidence that it is not possible. perhaps once researchers have a clear understanding of how perfect pitch is learned naturally, then a method of teaching can be formulated | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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tossinYoSalad
United States215 Posts
On August 27 2009 10:14 Liquid`NonY wrote: what's your argument or evidence for that? i think we all understand that east asians brought up in east asia have a greater likelihood of having perfect pitch than east asians brought up in america. the hypothesis is that it's due to the environment, specifically hearing/learning tonal language as an infant. but whether or not that's the case, it seems clear that if changing the environment of childhood has a demonstrated effect on the frequency of perfect pitch in people, then perfect pitch is definitely learned and not purely genetic. i think the fact that adults have failed to artifically learn perfect pitch is not evidence that it is not possible. perhaps once researchers have a clear understanding of how perfect pitch is learned naturally, then a method of teaching can be formulated I COULD be mistaken about it being learnable, but I highly doubt it seeing as true perfect pitch borders on savant level abilities. I don't have any proof (and really I'm too lazy to find some) I just always thought that was how it was. I know a few people who have "learned" perfect pitch and one person who was born with it. The people who learned perfect pitch are able to differentiate notes on command, but the person who was born with it can listen to a song and transcribe every chord perfectly. very different things. But again, i could be wrong nony I just always thought that's how it was since I grew up around it lol. | ||
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SanguineToss
Canada815 Posts
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
On August 27 2009 11:10 tossinYoSalad wrote: I COULD be mistaken about it being learnable, but I highly doubt it seeing as true perfect pitch borders on savant level abilities. I don't have any proof (and really I'm too lazy to find some) I just always thought that was how it was. I know a few people who have "learned" perfect pitch and one person who was born with it. The people who learned perfect pitch are able to differentiate notes on command, but the person who was born with it can listen to a song and transcribe every chord perfectly. very different things. But again, i could be wrong nony I just always thought that's how it was since I grew up around it lol. huh, well according to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_pitch it's an ongoing research topic. maybe it's genetic, maybe it's learned, maybe it's both. personally, i play piano and a bunch of other instruments, with the piano being my strongest instrument. i can identify notes on a piano without prior tones as reference (perfect pitch? prbly not=( , while i do need prior reference for the other instruments (thats definately relative pitch). however, i've noticed my ability diminishing (lol) these past few months as i've stopped taking music lessons and have barely played my instruments recently. so idk whats up with that. | ||
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xiaofan
United States513 Posts
On August 25 2009 23:19 Amber[LighT] wrote: i have overwhelming deja vu (almost like seeing into the future except I can't always remember what happens). If I happen to speak about what I dream about, then it typically doesn't come true. Sometimes I will do something and honestly feel like I was there doing whatever the activity was at a previous time. Typically these dreams could have occurred between 1 and 12 months prior to the activity.. I am going to try and write stuff down to see if this is accurate  i can paint the future | ||
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D00dles
Cambodia217 Posts
On August 25 2009 23:19 Amber[LighT] wrote: i have overwhelming deja vu (almost like seeing into the future except I can't always remember what happens). If I happen to speak about what I dream about, then it typically doesn't come true. Sometimes I will do something and honestly feel like I was there doing whatever the activity was at a previous time. Typically these dreams could have occurred between 1 and 12 months prior to the activity.. I am going to try and write stuff down to see if this is accurate I have similar De Ja Vu, i dream about things that happen in the future.. I don't remember them though until it actually happens and then i remember that i've done/seen this (whatever i'm doing before.) I'm not sure about how far ahead of time, but easily 1-12 months and prolly more. Sometimes it happens quite alot (couple of times a week) and sometimes weeks will go by without De Ja Vu.. It'd be even more awesome if i remembered the stuff that'd happen when i wake up. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
iceman has since done many other feats. | ||
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