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Cyro
United Kingdom20278 Posts
On August 11 2015 05:31 monomo wrote: I have huge issues with this statement actually. Very few players would have any kind of representation of their skill level on their profile if that were true. I have some freak scores up there. Mostly it's just a lucky run on acc - hard to repeat, but the FC itself not that difficult | ||
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monomo
Germany150 Posts
On August 11 2015 06:30 Yorbon wrote: This is not entirely correct. I do agree that the individual scores on someone's profile do not represent the skill level of that person, assuming what i said. However, the whole of someone's scores could say something about his skill level, because those scores collectively are unobtainable for someone with a (significantly) lower skill level within a reasonable amount of time. One can estimate a minimum skill level that way. This still gives a very weak estimate, however, as it still is dependent on time spent achieving those scores as well as skill. Someone who has spent 2 years at the same skill level, will be expected to have higher pp than someone at that skill level who's recently improved a lot. You might also say that increased farming activity (per amount of time) drives amount of pp upwards. So regardless of whether a score represents your skill level, your skill level is not represented well by your profile at all. (Please note that I said 'not well at all' and not 'not at all' just in case). I would argue that the higher the rank achieved, the more accurate the amount of pp is, because the attainability of those scores through sheer repetition decrease more rapidly (than at the lower levels) the higher the amount of pp. Worth noting is also that this 'upward bias' is not necessarily a consequence of the current pp system or something. It is a bias coming from the fact that osu takes your maximum score, which correlates with highest pp score (note: correlate; no 1 on 1 relation). These kind of biases cannot be prevented by any kind of (reasonable) system, I think. So while I still accept the current system, it has it's flaws. One might see the scores on someone's profile as a first approximation of someone's skill. Going back to when I saw your profile online just now. I saw you were rank 500, so assumed a (probable) minimum level. After that I just looked at scores you obtained and saw you are probably better than me (you at least were at that moment). Not based on rank, profile scores, or scores obtained after repeating, but based on scores on maps you had no way of knowing were coming. I hope this is structured enough to follow. And sorry for all things in brackets; i hate written media. tldr: Profile does not represent skill anyway, except at the highest level. Sorry for being blunt, but the "skill" you're picturing there, that your referring to, does not exist. At least in the way you make it out to be (unified overall skill) - Me being better in maps that I have no idea were coming could be something ENTIRELY different than the skill needed to fc this or that DT map. I disagree with anyone stating the existence of a strong correlation between random map performance and sort-of-grindy-kindof map performance needed to gain PP. There are at least 5 areas in osu! which require completely different skills. All the PP system does is take your peak performance and make it into a number, completely disregarding long term consistency, a possible glaring weakness in either aim, accuracy or speed, and the finer points of good sightreading. So all PP can possibly do is show your peak "skill" over some time and it does that well: A few outliers in terms of single performances show a high peak performance tl;dr there is no pure skill in PP anyway, because pure skill doesn't exist, and i think PP does a very good job showing your peak performance capabilities. | ||
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Rizare
Canada592 Posts
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
On August 11 2015 07:46 monomo wrote: Sorry for being blunt, but the "skill" you're picturing there, that your referring to, does not exist. At least in the way you make it out to be (unified overall skill) - Me being better in maps that I have no idea were coming could be something ENTIRELY different than the skill needed to fc this or that DT map. I disagree with anyone stating the existence of a strong correlation between random map performance and sort-of-grindy-kindof map performance needed to gain PP. There are at least 5 areas in osu! which require completely different skills. All the PP system does is take your peak performance and make it into a number, completely disregarding long term consistency, a possible glaring weakness in either aim, accuracy or speed, and the finer points of good sightreading. So all PP can possibly do is show your peak "skill" over some time and it does that well: A few outliers in terms of single performances show a high peak performance tl;dr there is no pure skill in PP anyway, because pure skill doesn't exist, and i think PP does a very good job showing your peak performance capabilities. I don't mind anyone being blunt, we'll just agree to disagree (at some parts at least), I guess.  One thing I would like to say though, as clarification, is that I never intended to picture skill as a one-dimensional feature. When you say there are multiple 'areas' requiring different skills I could most probably agree with you, dependent on how you would view them, and any assessment of skill should (imo) be evaluated in each of those areas, however one would choose them. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4537 Posts
I'm at the point where I can get S ranks on 3,5* maps and I want to try some harder ones, but I don't know which ones are good. I usually go for songs I like but western songs tend to have pretty shitty beatmaps. Cheers edit: just saw the post on the last page, will check those out And with regards to the recent discussion about playing the same map too long, that's pretty much all I do  Pick a map, try to complete it, then try to get a perfect combo on it, then move on to another map. | ||
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deakachu
103 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20278 Posts
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Bobbias
Canada1373 Posts
On August 11 2015 17:33 deakachu wrote: When you play a map and like it, go to the mappers profile and download all their other maps as well, search the artist, search the source etc. This, a thousand times. I've never understood why more people don't pay attention to who mapped something, because it's by far the easiest way to discover new maps. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20278 Posts
not looking at chat a lot though (just a few ppl on skype) | ||
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falconfan02
United States231 Posts
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Bobbias
Canada1373 Posts
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deakachu
103 Posts
Quite pleased with this, even though the acc isn't great for od7. The 202bpm streams and awkward jumps have always been a problem for me before. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20278 Posts
it's harder to read stacked stuff with hitcircles like that | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
The play also reminds me that I've been thinking about removing the numbers as part of the hitcircles. Those numbers may be distracting. Could you maybe link me your skin, just to try out? Edit: I thought it was the extra difficulty when posting this post :O Sorry! I've never actually played this difficulty afaik :$ | ||
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deakachu
103 Posts
I think anything that I have problems reading is too fast for me to be able to process the numbers, so they are more of a distraction than anything. It is probably just preference though. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20278 Posts
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monomo
Germany150 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20278 Posts
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deakachu
103 Posts
On August 13 2015 22:35 monomo wrote: Today I found that increasing the Gamma to absurd levels in AMD Catalyst makes me able to kinda read AR10.56 REPORTED enjoy your lifetime ban for hacking buddy. | ||
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monomo
Germany150 Posts
edit Additionally I can't increase the brightness or the general appearance of aproach circles which was what I was mainly trying to do. | ||
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