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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 06 2011 13:38 GMT
#881
I play TF2Lobby heavily, it just has a lot of pitfalls that you have to avoid.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Peksi
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland169 Posts
September 06 2011 13:46 GMT
#882
On September 06 2011 21:26 Airact wrote:
I don't care about Arena that much as I just want to get my class play somewhat good before I, hopefully, jump into comp TF2. Please don't suggest TF2Lobby as what I've heard, it's about on the same level as HoN/DotA community is... Completely brokenly terrible and there is nothing that can fix it in the next 1000 years. And believe me, I have played HoN and I quit it because of that very reason.

Why don't you try it for yourself before drawing any conclusions? I haven't played HoN/DotA so I have no idea what that comparison means. I personally get more frustrated when I play on pubs because of the new unlocks, imbalanced class distribution and the vaste amount of totally clueless players. People in lobbies are for the most part better than your average pub hero anyway and usually the standard league weapons are used. The level of voice communication really depends on the people and if you actively use it people are more likely to respond.

Of course from time to time you get extremely frustrating lobbies where people offclass as an engie or medic ragequits but what can you do (except remember the name and ban him from your future lobbies . TF2Lobby is still an easy and carefree way to play 6on6.

And now that I remembered you could try to play with these guys http://steamcommunity.com/groups/6v6newmix. They arrange mixes in a friendly environment with voice communication and mentors. Better than lobbies for sure.
It can't be helped. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Airact
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 15:32:49
September 06 2011 15:30 GMT
#883
On September 06 2011 22:46 Peksi wrote:
Why don't you try it for yourself before drawing any conclusions? I haven't played HoN/DotA so I have no idea what that comparison means. I personally get more frustrated when I play on pubs because of the new unlocks, imbalanced class distribution and the vaste amount of totally clueless players. People in lobbies are for the most part better than your average pub hero anyway and usually the standard league weapons are used. The level of voice communication really depends on the people and if you actively use it people are more likely to respond.

Of course from time to time you get extremely frustrating lobbies where people offclass as an engie or medic ragequits but what can you do (except remember the name and ban him from your future lobbies . TF2Lobby is still an easy and carefree way to play 6on6.

And now that I remembered you could try to play with these guys http://steamcommunity.com/groups/6v6newmix. They arrange mixes in a friendly environment with voice communication and mentors. Better than lobbies for sure.

Maybe it's just me wanting to avoid getting whined at and wanting to be reliable from the beginning. If that's the case, it's my problem and there is no point to discuss that. I either find a way around it or I don't.

Yes I have bad experiences from HoN and DotA whining in HoN beta and slightly after release. Not anything really bad, but something that might keep me from playing that often. I mean nobody likes to play with a whiner.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 06 2011 16:43 GMT
#884
On September 06 2011 22:46 Peksi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 21:26 Airact wrote:
I don't care about Arena that much as I just want to get my class play somewhat good before I, hopefully, jump into comp TF2. Please don't suggest TF2Lobby as what I've heard, it's about on the same level as HoN/DotA community is... Completely brokenly terrible and there is nothing that can fix it in the next 1000 years. And believe me, I have played HoN and I quit it because of that very reason.

Why don't you try it for yourself before drawing any conclusions? I haven't played HoN/DotA so I have no idea what that comparison means. I personally get more frustrated when I play on pubs because of the new unlocks, imbalanced class distribution and the vaste amount of totally clueless players. People in lobbies are for the most part better than your average pub hero anyway and usually the standard league weapons are used. The level of voice communication really depends on the people and if you actively use it people are more likely to respond.

Of course from time to time you get extremely frustrating lobbies where people offclass as an engie or medic ragequits but what can you do (except remember the name and ban him from your future lobbies . TF2Lobby is still an easy and carefree way to play 6on6.

And now that I remembered you could try to play with these guys http://steamcommunity.com/groups/6v6newmix. They arrange mixes in a friendly environment with voice communication and mentors. Better than lobbies for sure.


I've played both, he's exaggerating a great deal.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Peksi
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland169 Posts
September 06 2011 17:09 GMT
#885
On September 07 2011 01:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
I've played both, he's exaggerating a great deal.

Care to elaborate?

On September 07 2011 00:30 Airact wrote:
Maybe it's just me wanting to avoid getting whined at and wanting to be reliable from the beginning. If that's the case, it's my problem and there is no point to discuss that. I either find a way around it or I don't.

Yes I have bad experiences from HoN and DotA whining in HoN beta and slightly after release. Not anything really bad, but something that might keep me from playing that often. I mean nobody likes to play with a whiner.

That's understandable. I don't think there's that much whine though. As long as you know/execute the demo/soldier rollouts decently (and don't just walk to mid, I've seen those ), stick together as scouts/pocket soldier+medic or as a medic know the healing priorities (ie. heal demo first, then scouts and soldiers) most people don't really care.

This is a great resource for competitive play: http://etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12510/?recent=274229
It can't be helped. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Airact
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 17:55:54
September 06 2011 17:53 GMT
#886
On September 07 2011 02:09 Peksi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 01:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
I've played both, he's exaggerating a great deal.

Care to elaborate?


I'd like to know as well. Has the HoN community gone better after the Beta ended?

I mean people have blamed S2 server lag on our team. Also the standard "YOU TOOK MY FAVORITE HERO /ragequit" has happened. Of course my experiences are outdated at best, but at least in Beta people were raging a lot. Then again I never breached the 1,8k ELO line so I cannot tell from higher level perspective.

But yeah I can agree that I went a bit overboard with that and I apologize if it caused any harm.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 01:03:59
September 07 2011 01:03 GMT
#887
On September 07 2011 02:09 Peksi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 01:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
I've played both, he's exaggerating a great deal.

Care to elaborate?

Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 00:30 Airact wrote:
Maybe it's just me wanting to avoid getting whined at and wanting to be reliable from the beginning. If that's the case, it's my problem and there is no point to discuss that. I either find a way around it or I don't.

Yes I have bad experiences from HoN and DotA whining in HoN beta and slightly after release. Not anything really bad, but something that might keep me from playing that often. I mean nobody likes to play with a whiner.

That's understandable. I don't think there's that much whine though. As long as you know/execute the demo/soldier rollouts decently (and don't just walk to mid, I've seen those ), stick together as scouts/pocket soldier+medic or as a medic know the healing priorities (ie. heal demo first, then scouts and soldiers) most people don't really care.

This is a great resource for competitive play: http://etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-12510/?recent=274229


I think the DoTA and HoN community are both notorious for their harsh criticisms, etc.
The steepness in being remotely decent on DoTA/HoN is incredibly high and so are the standards.

In TF2Lobby, getting the gist of the game is relative, but simple. For starters, just focusing on the objective and not the kills already puts you more comfortably than DoTA.

It's not really fair to compare both games though, they're vastly different. But the reality of it is that the players on TF2Lobby are a lot more lenient or just not as vocal. They'll tell you you suck on occasion, but won't harass you or go to the ends of the world to fully describe and compare your terribleness.

edit: Oh, I meant about TF2Lobby being like HoN.

HoN still has a terrible community.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
September 07 2011 01:51 GMT
#888
I'd like to try playing in the comp tf2 setting but I suck too much to play and there doesn't seem to be any pub servers where random people can join and play
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 07 2011 01:52 GMT
#889
tf2lobby is where the random people can join and play.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
September 07 2011 01:53 GMT
#890
But people might yell at me for sucking too much D:
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 07 2011 01:55 GMT
#891
So?

To be honest, you have to start somewhere. I'm moderately bad, but I don't get much criticisms.

Depends on the team to be honest, some will be vocal, others won't care and be concentrating on the match, etc.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 02:04:40
September 07 2011 02:04 GMT
#892
You don't understaaaaaaaaaaand!!

Where do I play tf2lobby? :D

It seems like something you have to sign up for and I can't find any servers that are "join and play"
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 02:05:39
September 07 2011 02:05 GMT
#893
www.tf2lobby.com

All competitive matches cannot be "joined" in the middle. It's a start to finish sort of thing.

You can sign in on your steam account now!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
September 13 2011 16:46 GMT
#894
MattyClutch / MattyClutch
US east
Nihn'kas Neehn
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 21 2011 12:27 GMT
#895
Just wanted to pop in and ask if anyone else has been having lag issues on the Lotus (East Coast) server this week. It seems like everytime i pop in there the server is falling apart. I know some of you play on Lotus, have you had this problem lately?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 21 2011 15:27 GMT
#896
On September 21 2011 21:27 PassiveAce wrote:
Just wanted to pop in and ask if anyone else has been having lag issues on the Lotus (East Coast) server this week. It seems like everytime i pop in there the server is falling apart. I know some of you play on Lotus, have you had this problem lately?


Which server on East Coast? I play arena and gotten no lag, but I know for a fact it isn't uncommon from Lotus
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 16:05:06
September 21 2011 16:02 GMT
#897
Iv been having problems on their Stock maps #4 as well as their Payload Stock (and a few others i tried randomly, cant remember names now). Its been unplayable for over a week for me :|

On a side note i KNEW you would be the first response Torte ;p
I even thought about just PMing you about it haha.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 21 2011 16:07 GMT
#898
o_o Really?

I play Lotus arenas and it's always empty until 12-1 p.m.
Mana needs to reset the servers sometimes, so yeah, it's probably getting a bit choppy.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Sturmis
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland12 Posts
September 21 2011 16:16 GMT
#899
On September 07 2011 00:30 Airact wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 22:46 Peksi wrote:
Why don't you try it for yourself before drawing any conclusions? I haven't played HoN/DotA so I have no idea what that comparison means. I personally get more frustrated when I play on pubs because of the new unlocks, imbalanced class distribution and the vaste amount of totally clueless players. People in lobbies are for the most part better than your average pub hero anyway and usually the standard league weapons are used. The level of voice communication really depends on the people and if you actively use it people are more likely to respond.

Of course from time to time you get extremely frustrating lobbies where people offclass as an engie or medic ragequits but what can you do (except remember the name and ban him from your future lobbies . TF2Lobby is still an easy and carefree way to play 6on6.

And now that I remembered you could try to play with these guys http://steamcommunity.com/groups/6v6newmix. They arrange mixes in a friendly environment with voice communication and mentors. Better than lobbies for sure.

Maybe it's just me wanting to avoid getting whined at and wanting to be reliable from the beginning. If that's the case, it's my problem and there is no point to discuss that. I either find a way around it or I don't.

Yes I have bad experiences from HoN and DotA whining in HoN beta and slightly after release. Not anything really bad, but something that might keep me from playing that often. I mean nobody likes to play with a whiner.


There are some team deathmatch servers where you can practice scout, soldier or demo. A couple of decent finnish ones too, with some top players on every now and then.

#gather.fi (@Qnet) is also pretty cool for Finns.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 21 2011 16:17 GMT
#900
MGE Servers are usually the best to practice
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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