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On April 15 2009 07:51 choboPEon wrote:
No, it wouldn't be like that. Many of us have played the game for a while and we have a very good idea of what massing planes can play like.
Random pub games are not the same thing as organized teams. If something is even marginally difficult to deal with, it's probably going to seem really unbalanced in that setting. Not to mention that the average game isn't 5v5 anyway.
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I realize it's not the same. All I'm saying is that I understand them considering it because public games are all we've got to go on now.
But, like I said, I think you're mostly right. And, to be honest, we'll probably play at least a little bit without the rule in effect so that we can see what's up. The poll is more of a guide for potential future rule changes than anything else.
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This is such an awesome game, and I wish I could be part of the league. Could someone record/observe the games, and post on youtube pleeeeease? 
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On April 15 2009 08:18 CDRdude wrote:This is such an awesome game, and I wish I could be part of the league. Could someone record/observe the games, and post on youtube pleeeeease?
we are planning on that
why can't you be part of the league?
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This is going to be alot of fun ty for organizing this.
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I think one of the biggest things we need to decide on right now with regards to the rules is map choice. If we do a bo3, 3 different maps, then there are like 3 different ways of deciding maps:
1) There is an official starting map, and past that, the loser can pick the map from any map in the pool (either allowing them to choose them same one, or forcing them to pick a different one, whatever)
2) The teams veto maps (in succession, Team A vetoes 1 map, then Team B vetoes 2 maps, then Team A vetoes the last map), leaving 3 possible maps to play on. The first map is then chosen randomly and the loser gets to choose from the remaining pool of 2 after that.
3) There is an official list of 3 maps to be played in order, announced before each week.
I'm not sure which is truly preferrable, but I think option 2 is the most appealing to me, and allows for the most depth in map selection.
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On April 15 2009 12:37 tec27 wrote:
I think one of the biggest things we need to decide on right now with regards to the rules is map choice. If we do a bo3, 3 different maps, then there are like 3 different ways of deciding maps:
1) There is an official starting map, and past that, the loser can pick the map from any map in the pool (either allowing them to choose them same one, or forcing them to pick a different one, whatever)
2) The teams veto maps (in succession, Team A vetoes 1 map, then Team B vetoes 2 maps, then Team A vetoes the last map), leaving 3 possible maps to play on. The first map is then chosen randomly and the loser gets to choose from the remaining pool of 2 after that.
3) There is an official list of 3 maps to be played in order, announced before each week.
I'm not sure which is truly preferrable, but I think option 2 is the most appealing to me, and allows for the most depth in map selection.
2 sounds good. how many TBD maps are there exactly in the map pool?
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edit: wait, fuck. i put in 8 maps. i should remove one or we should add one map veto. thoughts?
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rules updated: new match format and new 10-person limit on teams.
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On April 15 2009 19:18 choboPEon wrote:
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edit: wait, fuck. i put in 8 maps. i should remove one or we should add one map veto. thoughts?
well, Mayhem and Hills are pretty unpopular, i for one like hills the least.
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On April 15 2009 19:19 choboPEon wrote:
rules updated: new match format and new 10-person limit on teams.
so in the championship you'd have to play on every map?
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On April 15 2009 19:32 jeppew wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2009 19:19 choboPEon wrote:
rules updated: new match format and new 10-person limit on teams. so in the championship you'd have to play on every map?
currently, yes.
i agree fully with this set up so far.
i just hope i can find a team ^ ^
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On April 15 2009 19:31 jeppew wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2009 19:18 choboPEon wrote:
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edit: wait, fuck. i put in 8 maps. i should remove one or we should add one map veto. thoughts? well, Mayhem and Hills are pretty unpopular, i for one like hills the least.
hills is already out. need one more gone - mayhem?
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There are several imbalanced maps that aren't really fit for competitive play. Grotto, Woods, Core and Asteroids are the only good ones.
Hills is too simple, lots of camping, you can hit with the bomb from halfway across the map, matches on this map will end very fast.
Mayhem there's too many closed spaces and obstacles which gives a big advantage to certain planes and there's just way too many places/obstacles to go through to be able to properly defend. This map will also end very fast just a question of who bombs faster.
Lostcity is very linear and will have a lot of camping, I think with 2 decent teams a round on this map will be very long and frustrating.
Middleground is actually a decent map but the bottom back entrance from one base to the other makes the base way to accessible way too fast, for maps with these paths to work it needs to be more like in asteroids where there's a longer more narrow way to reach the base. I think this map can be very good if the back is blocked that way it's still not too linear but not too easy either.
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Add me to the list please.
I voted no, mass Explodets on maps like Mayhem is pure BS.
I am level 40 something. 45? 46? ish.
I prefer bomber over everything else, but I have decent Explodet. My biplane and loopy are so-so. My Miranda sucks dick.
I specialize in bombruns on the maps hills, meltdown (or whatever that nuclear one is), and lost city.
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On April 15 2009 20:13 fanatacist wrote:
Add me to the list please.
I voted no, mass Explodets on maps like Mayhem is pure BS.
I am level 40 something. 45? 46? ish.
I prefer bomber over everything else, but I have decent Explodet. My biplane and loopy are so-so. My Miranda sucks dick.
I specialize in bombruns on the maps hills, meltdown (or whatever that nuclear one is), and lost city.
Why did you vote no on limits of planes then? Or was that a typo?
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yeah, i think he meant yes? or he misunderstood the poll.
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Time for me to start playing this game o_O
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Hey, if anyone is interested in teaming up PM me!!
Me and Falcynn are looking for some players
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So umm, I'm looking for a team. My tag [TL]BW. Arround level 43 atm. Don't really have a preferred timezone, can come at any time as long as its a sunday. Send me a PM if you're interested in picking me up.
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