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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 08:28:38
August 18 2011 08:21 GMT
#14781
Y'all have drake life, I have noob life. See, drake life is killing things withyour drakes easily b/c drake imbaimbaimba (blah blah blah, etc)

Noob life is what just happened to me. It's what happens when you're horrible at EVE and make a 40+ jump roam solo across the universe :D

Let the battle report begin (and no I haven't forgotten about my other battle reports, this one just seems more pertinent to helping others learn how not to be as bad as me)

I'm warping around looking for targets when I spy a 10 month old cyclone ratting. I think to myself, this guy is ten months old, and his char is minimatar. What are the odds he went down an optimal path for his ship. I'm in a jag fit with SSB and I'm like, well he's not going to alpha me, and he's not going to outrun me, might as well give it a go. So I land on the asteroid belt and he is already aligned warping out, bummer. I chase him around for like 10 mins before local spikes +3 and I get out into neighboring Todifrauan (from Arnstur). The 3 locals pass through chasing me so i just dock up and watch some random shit. One of the three stays behind when the other two leave so i warp back into Arnstur and the cyclone is still there. The other person warps in right behind me in an ishkur, so I reveal myself, and warp back to Todi. I warp to belt 1-1 and wait for him to find me. Local hasn't increased as he lands so I go for it. I equip EMP and slam orbit 500m.

Let's talk about this decision: The ishkur has 3 mids, and 3 lows. It is a drone boat and is not likely to rely on its low slots for too much damage, and it's armor resists are rather impressive. Before the fight I only did a cursory glance at the fitting tab and saw 3, 3. Went with EMP b/c of the exp rider damage. Turns out, 1 mid is for prop, 1 for scram/disruptor, 1 for whatever. Odds aren't too high that last slot gets devoted to a shield booster OR a shield extender. Possible, but not as likely as a web since the ishkur is a slower AF. The lower 3 slots are not meant to hold anything vital in terms of positioning/control, so an extremely logical choice for an ishkur is to armor tank (passive or active, but active is a very viable choice since their guns don't use CAP)

Ok, so the battle goes poorly. Shields melt, but his armor repper is making it so he's only losing about 10% armor every 5-10 seconds. Meanwhile I'm down into armor and my shield booster is making serious attempts to save me. Another thing, Ishkurs are fit with guns that have extremely low optimal and falloff, but do very high damage. My decision to orbit at 500 was a poor one. I make a decision to try and disengage. Thankfully, he's AB fit. Not so thankfully, he's fit with a disruptor. I made it out in 20% armor, though, b/c he ran out of cap from running the disruptor/armor rep all fight.

I wait out my GCC and repair at one of the local stations. Then I undock and start dscanning, he's on one of the planets. He warps off as I land (apparently he had been searching for me since I undocked) and I chase him to belt 1-1. I had been consulting with Aeth during the fight and fit barrage ammo (in spite of the high kinetic resists on the ishkur, the explosive damage is still higher than EMP, and unlike fusion, I get the range bonus to stay as far away as possible which is about 8k to maintain web/scram/nos safely). I land 1k from him so we both web/nos/whatever and I slam keep at 8k. I'm melting him and he's fit with close range ammo. So for about 10s of the fight he's swapping ammo so I have the huge ups on him. Unfortunately for me, critical noobness strikes. He angles his ship straight at me and my autopilot responds, at which point he slams directly away from me and warps off to "something". I'm like, oh hell no, gotta get this guy! Click random celestial thing he warped to, and warp to 0. Halfway through warp I look in the top left and see bold red lettering. Oh... oh god no... what am I warping to?!?!? "Warping to - Arnstur (Stargate)" GOD DAMNIT FUCK ME NOOOOOOOOOOOO. I land and try to warp to something, ANYTHING. The ishkur sees me land on him and disrupts/webs me, gate guns clean up. Sigh...

The killmail... Losing 1/10 of my isk in a bout of noobiness is mega depressing.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10408996

Edit: It's late, any grammatical errors are not important enough to edit.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Izaku
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)127 Posts
August 18 2011 08:27 GMT
#14782
@risen

what kind of isk making work do you do support all the losses? it seems fun losing ships and learning along the way, im sure you have gained more experience from all this so +1
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 18 2011 08:29 GMT
#14783
On August 18 2011 17:27 Izaku wrote:
@risen

what kind of isk making work do you do support all the losses? it seems fun losing ships and learning along the way, im sure you have gained more experience from all this so +1


Click contracts on the left, find contracts where people forget a zero. Scoop.

Also, get extremely lucky your first week of eve and get around 300ish million isk from radar sites.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 18 2011 08:39 GMT
#14784
Shades of gray no less hahahahahaha

This is gonna be HUGE MORAL BOOST TO THEM
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 18 2011 08:50 GMT
#14785
On August 18 2011 17:39 Firebolt145 wrote:
Shades of gray no less hahahahahaha

This is gonna be HUGE MORAL BOOST TO THEM


Yeah I saw that >.<
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
August 18 2011 10:40 GMT
#14786
On August 18 2011 13:31 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 10:50 Izaku wrote:


awesome fleet battle that was recently uploaded.

Wow this video opens my eyes to how spoonfed people are when they fight in null.

I know it's needed in those 50+ man blobs, but jeez. The guy in the vid doesn't look like he has any idea what he's doing aside from following orders.


That's why I left 0.0. It was not fun being told to orbit a anchor and blindly following orders and my computer couldn't handle the battles.
Serious Business
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 18 2011 11:10 GMT
#14787
On August 18 2011 13:31 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 10:50 Izaku wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpbsG4sRJyo&feature=youtu.be&hd=1

awesome fleet battle that was recently uploaded.

Wow this video opens my eyes to how spoonfed people are when they fight in null.

I know it's needed in those 50+ man blobs, but jeez. The guy in the vid doesn't look like he has any idea what he's doing aside from following orders.





way better :-D
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
August 18 2011 12:44 GMT
#14788
On August 18 2011 17:21 Risen wrote:Oh... oh god no... what am I warping to?!?!? "Warping to - Arnstur (Stargate)" GOD DAMNIT FUCK ME NOOOOOOOOOOOO. I land and try to warp to something, ANYTHING. The ishkur sees me land on him and disrupts/webs me, gate guns clean up. Sigh...

The killmail... Losing 1/10 of my isk in a bout of noobiness is mega depressing.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10408996

Edit: It's late, any grammatical errors are not important enough to edit.


I think that's happened to everyone
If you like the Jag you could try flying a Dual-MSE fit. It's a lot cheaper and has a ton of EHP. Also Ishkurs are very scary in general
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 18 2011 14:37 GMT
#14789
I must correct my previous post: This one is far more telling:
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 18 2011 15:36 GMT
#14790
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that vid has me tearing
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 16:39:23
August 18 2011 16:36 GMT
#14791
So I'm bored, and I join the E-uni channel to see what they're up to.

[16:26:49] TheLostPenguin > they're expensive ships
[16:26:52] Azumi Tanaka > they are very expensive to lose
[16:26:56] Firebolt145 > what are
[16:26:57] Oozora > they are expensive ships and considered to kinda suck
[16:27:05] Donnar Vaderung > because they take alot of skills to use, and during war the point is to not get alot of high value ships trashed
[16:27:05] TheLostPenguin > generally uni asks people to use cheap ships during war, so t1
[16:27:09] Firebolt145 > i'm gonna guess that we're talking about blackops
[16:27:14] Firebolt145 > am i right?
[16:27:18] Oozora > heh
[16:27:20] Firebolt145 > (just joined channel)
[16:27:22] Joshua Vaughn Lampen > WRONG
[16:27:24] Oozora > yes
[16:27:24] Firebolt145 > hmm
[16:27:37] Firebolt145 > so...right or wrong?
[16:27:37] Celine Starstruck > Yeah i asked why blacks ops are forbidden to use in uni
[16:27:37] Doji Auduin > lol i had someone pop up that was doding lvl 4's
[16:27:39] Firebolt145 > haha
[16:27:41] Celine Starstruck > and you've seen the answer.
[16:27:44] Firebolt145 > yeah
[16:27:47] Firebolt145 > blackops suck
[16:27:54] Firebolt145 > for their price

[16:28:10] Firebolt145 > so unless you're lolling around, i'd stay away from them
[16:28:14] TheLostPenguin > even if they were much cheaper i still dont see them being hugely usefull in current form
[16:28:15] Oozora > which is a shame, they sound like they could be fun
[16:28:21] Firebolt145 > if they could warp while cloaked
[16:28:23] Gorl Abris > keep it family friendly please...
[16:28:25] Firebolt145 > i think they would be amazing
[16:28:35] Firebolt145 > i never said anything unfriendly :<
[16:28:39] TheLostPenguin > yup covops would be nice for them
[16:28:39] Firebolt145 > haven't*
[16:28:54] Aeon Noblemagus > id love to get into a black ops
[16:28:54] Anti Kythera Bloodbath > if i'm -4.0 do i get a larger standings increase for the same mission than if i were 0.0 ?
[16:29:02] Firebolt145 > yeah
[16:29:11] TheLostPenguin > yes since its a % of the diff between current and max
[16:29:13] Kakrenor > well... everything would be nice with cov ops
[16:29:13] Firebolt145 > the same way if you're 5.0 you lose more standing when you kill something
[16:29:15] Anti Kythera Bloodbath > ty
[16:29:23] Gorl Abris > just by answering like that shows you understand my meaning...
[16:29:32] Celine Starstruck > lemme get this right then, black ops, recon, scout are not all one ship but different ships for different roles?
[16:29:32] Aeon Noblemagus > they need beefed up resists tad more grid and better jump drive range and covert opd cloak
[16:29:33] Gorl Abris > that's your warning...
[16:29:50] Firebolt145 > gorl, i'm genuinely asking, where am i being unfriendly?
[16:29:54] Firebolt145 > i am not trolling
[16:30:20] Kristinn FJ > You're using harsh language.
[16:30:35] TheLostPenguin > just assume gorl is one of the zealous mods that things suck is swearing...
[16:30:42] Oozora > Celine: yeah, a good way to look at ships is how they are organized on the market
[16:30:51] Firebolt145 > wow. okay -_-
[16:31:29] Kristinn FJ > He's not saying that "Suck" is swearing, you're oozing negativity.
[16:31:43] TheLostPenguin > kinda justified towards blackops ships tho
[16:31:47] Oozora > at least the t2 ships... t1 is all lumped together... oh well
[16:32:14] Gorl Abris > zealous or not, you are guests in our channel...please heed our rules...http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Public_channel_policies
[16:32:58] Firebolt145 > i am following your rules. i am not swearing (suck is hardly a swear word) and am simply describing blackops as what they are - fiendishly overpriced
[16:33:25] jangofett > so are there many eve uni guys doing incusions ?
[16:33:35] EVE System > Firebolt145 was muted by Gorl Abris. Effective until 2011.08.18 17:03:35, Reason: "Rules lawyering will got you nowhere fast".
[16:33:37] Azumi Tanaka > lol - now you are breaking rule 7
[16:33:43] Bokushi > lol
[16:33:48] Gorl Abris > [16:33:36] EVE System > Firebolt145 was muted by Gorl Abris. Effective until 2011.08.18 17:03:35, Reason: "Rules lawyering will got you nowhere fast".
[16:33:48] Oozora > when there is a close one i see people running it
[16:34:18] jangofett > ok cool just ive never done any and if i get in the corp would like to have a go
[16:34:23] Bokushi > dont sweat it fire. just be mindful of the rules and move past it.
[16:34:32] TheLostPenguin > so for clarification, exactly WHICH rule was supposedly infringed first time round?
[16:34:41] Gran Deka > that was a bit much
[16:34:46] Gorl Abris > and you can all thank him that i have to now spend 10 minutes writing this up when i could have been interviewing...
[16:34:58] TheLostPenguin > because frankly i get nothing really based on the channel rules
[16:35:09] jangofett > grrr

LOL

edit: 5 minutes later there are still two -wait now three people defending me and asking why I was muted HAHA
Moderator
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 18 2011 16:38 GMT
#14792
man if you dont like black ops you probably hate puppies too
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 16:40:48
August 18 2011 16:39 GMT
#14793
Now the 'mod' is threatening the people defending me with mutes as well

edit: and now he's kicked one of them
Moderator
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 18 2011 17:08 GMT
#14794
def: i think he mad, he probably has blackops V, just sayin
Moderator
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:19:21
August 18 2011 17:18 GMT
#14795
On August 19 2011 01:36 Firebolt145 wrote:
So I'm bored, and I join the E-uni channel to see what they're up to.

[16:26:49] TheLostPenguin > they're expensive ships
[16:26:52] Azumi Tanaka > they are very expensive to lose
[16:26:56] Firebolt145 > what are
[16:26:57] Oozora > they are expensive ships and considered to kinda suck
[16:27:05] Donnar Vaderung > because they take alot of skills to use, and during war the point is to not get alot of high value ships trashed
[16:27:05] TheLostPenguin > generally uni asks people to use cheap ships during war, so t1
[16:27:09] Firebolt145 > i'm gonna guess that we're talking about blackops
[16:27:14] Firebolt145 > am i right?
[16:27:18] Oozora > heh
[16:27:20] Firebolt145 > (just joined channel)
[16:27:22] Joshua Vaughn Lampen > WRONG
[16:27:24] Oozora > yes
[16:27:24] Firebolt145 > hmm
[16:27:37] Firebolt145 > so...right or wrong?
[16:27:37] Celine Starstruck > Yeah i asked why blacks ops are forbidden to use in uni
[16:27:37] Doji Auduin > lol i had someone pop up that was doding lvl 4's
[16:27:39] Firebolt145 > haha
[16:27:41] Celine Starstruck > and you've seen the answer.
[16:27:44] Firebolt145 > yeah
[16:27:47] Firebolt145 > blackops suck
[16:27:54] Firebolt145 > for their price

[16:28:10] Firebolt145 > so unless you're lolling around, i'd stay away from them
[16:28:14] TheLostPenguin > even if they were much cheaper i still dont see them being hugely usefull in current form
[16:28:15] Oozora > which is a shame, they sound like they could be fun
[16:28:21] Firebolt145 > if they could warp while cloaked
[16:28:23] Gorl Abris > keep it family friendly please...
[16:28:25] Firebolt145 > i think they would be amazing
[16:28:35] Firebolt145 > i never said anything unfriendly :&lt;
[16:28:39] TheLostPenguin > yup covops would be nice for them
[16:28:39] Firebolt145 > haven't*
[16:28:54] Aeon Noblemagus > id love to get into a black ops
[16:28:54] Anti Kythera Bloodbath > if i'm -4.0 do i get a larger standings increase for the same mission than if i were 0.0 ?
[16:29:02] Firebolt145 > yeah
[16:29:11] TheLostPenguin > yes since its a % of the diff between current and max
[16:29:13] Kakrenor > well... everything would be nice with cov ops
[16:29:13] Firebolt145 > the same way if you're 5.0 you lose more standing when you kill something
[16:29:15] Anti Kythera Bloodbath > ty
[16:29:23] Gorl Abris > just by answering like that shows you understand my meaning...
[16:29:32] Celine Starstruck > lemme get this right then, black ops, recon, scout are not all one ship but different ships for different roles?
[16:29:32] Aeon Noblemagus > they need beefed up resists tad more grid and better jump drive range and covert opd cloak
[16:29:33] Gorl Abris > that's your warning...
[16:29:50] Firebolt145 > gorl, i'm genuinely asking, where am i being unfriendly?
[16:29:54] Firebolt145 > i am not trolling
[16:30:20] Kristinn FJ > You're using harsh language.
[16:30:35] TheLostPenguin > just assume gorl is one of the zealous mods that things suck is swearing...
[16:30:42] Oozora > Celine: yeah, a good way to look at ships is how they are organized on the market
[16:30:51] Firebolt145 > wow. okay -_-
[16:31:29] Kristinn FJ > He's not saying that "Suck" is swearing, you're oozing negativity.
[16:31:43] TheLostPenguin > kinda justified towards blackops ships tho
[16:31:47] Oozora > at least the t2 ships... t1 is all lumped together... oh well
[16:32:14] Gorl Abris > zealous or not, you are guests in our channel...please heed our rules...http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Public_channel_policies
[16:32:58] Firebolt145 > i am following your rules. i am not swearing (suck is hardly a swear word) and am simply describing blackops as what they are - fiendishly overpriced
[16:33:25] jangofett > so are there many eve uni guys doing incusions ?
[16:33:35] EVE System > Firebolt145 was muted by Gorl Abris. Effective until 2011.08.18 17:03:35, Reason: "Rules lawyering will got you nowhere fast".
[16:33:37] Azumi Tanaka > lol - now you are breaking rule 7
[16:33:43] Bokushi > lol
[16:33:48] Gorl Abris > [16:33:36] EVE System > Firebolt145 was muted by Gorl Abris. Effective until 2011.08.18 17:03:35, Reason: "Rules lawyering will got you nowhere fast".
[16:33:48] Oozora > when there is a close one i see people running it
[16:34:18] jangofett > ok cool just ive never done any and if i get in the corp would like to have a go
[16:34:23] Bokushi > dont sweat it fire. just be mindful of the rules and move past it.
[16:34:32] TheLostPenguin > so for clarification, exactly WHICH rule was supposedly infringed first time round?
[16:34:41] Gran Deka > that was a bit much
[16:34:46] Gorl Abris > and you can all thank him that i have to now spend 10 minutes writing this up when i could have been interviewing...
[16:34:58] TheLostPenguin > because frankly i get nothing really based on the channel rules
[16:35:09] jangofett > grrr

LOL

edit: 5 minutes later there are still two -wait now three people defending me and asking why I was muted HAHA


----"Suck"
Verdict: not family friendly, get outta mah channel

---"Kinda Suck"
Verdict: npnpnpnp

/edit - hemad
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42778 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 22:18:58
August 18 2011 18:53 GMT
#14796
1984ing my own post because when I do that people seem to think I'm masterminding some conspiracy
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
August 18 2011 20:01 GMT
#14797
FB go complain to a EUni director out of spite.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
August 18 2011 20:45 GMT
#14798
On August 18 2011 23:37 Warri wrote:
I must correct my previous post: This one is far more telling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZDME4zZdMQ


that is crazy
polluxtby
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden207 Posts
August 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#14799
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 19 2011 05:45 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 23:37 Warri wrote:
I must correct my previous post: This one is far more telling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZDME4zZdMQ


that is crazy

I laughed so hard
Ten years ago we had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope and Steve Job. Now we got no cash no job and no hope
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
August 18 2011 22:12 GMT
#14800
On August 19 2011 06:49 polluxtby wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 19 2011 05:45 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 23:37 Warri wrote:
I must correct my previous post: This one is far more telling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZDME4zZdMQ


that is crazy

I laughed so hard


Than this will kill you

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