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Cael: it is the same thing.
That is the unfortunate part of this sub-forum though - you can't police those that participate with who they actually are in game.
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What does it matter? You wanna look up his efficiency and tell him how he sucks or what ~.~
Or is it just so you can confirm hes a troll and ignore him.
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Can't believe you war decced us Sard. After all our peaceful collaboration today. 
Be honest, is it because we're currently winning vs gunpoint?
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On April 19 2011 09:25 Sard Caid wrote:
Cael: it is the same thing.
That is the unfortunate part of this sub-forum though - you can't police those that participate with who they actually are in game.
I know its the same thing and its all my point.
''yeah no one at ccp or the GM know about it but I mumbles know the difference between both, etcetc''
this is why im talking about it.
Also, sard so bm.
And the only reason I want to know who mumbles is in game is because im actually really perplexed but only because he seems extremely reluctant to disclose that information
(and also cause im currently studying and im sure it would procure me a great laugh which I could use)
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Winning? @ 52% efficiency? What's the level of variance on that figure? Also, would you please stop carebearing and start undocking Sleipnirs again, it might help us "swing the tide".
Though again, I'm getting skurred now that your riffies are going T2. Next step: BBs, and I quit.
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On April 19 2011 10:27 Sard Caid wrote:
Winning? @ 52% efficiency? What's the level of variance on that figure? Also, would you please stop carebearing and start undocking Sleipnirs again, it might help us "swing the tide".
Though again, I'm getting skurred now that your riffies are going T2. Next step: BBs, and I quit.
52% is over 50% +1 ty gf gl hf
Also, as discussed with DP, the winner of the current war shall be decided by a BO3 4v4 SC2, get your men trained up im pretty sure theyll need it (not pointing anyone in particular *cough* DIRTY PROTAGONIST *cough*)
Dont be scared for t2 rifters tbh, theyre not allowed in kwarks fleet, only a couple of us (me, michael, gem?,) actually really fly t2 rifters, but as far as im concerned im the only one who really flies one often.
also, fuck BB, were getting the falcon fleet ready for yo assssssssssssss
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52% is not winning, if thats what you are at right now I'd call it a draw. Winning (for me at least, I think there are people who will agree) starts at something like 66% efficiency or above.
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On April 19 2011 11:17 ChinaRestaurant wrote:
52% is not winning, if thats what you are at right now I'd call it a draw. Winning (for me at least, I think there are people who will agree) starts at something like 66% efficiency or above.
TBH my post was merely sarcasm, were chill with gunpoint and most of us dont really care about whos ''winning'' or not, its simply a friendly bragging competition (as far as im concerned)
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Well then, carry on. I was just getting my opinion about the matter out in the open ;P.
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On April 19 2011 10:42 TurpinOS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 10:27 Sard Caid wrote:
Winning? @ 52% efficiency? What's the level of variance on that figure? Also, would you please stop carebearing and start undocking Sleipnirs again, it might help us "swing the tide".
Though again, I'm getting skurred now that your riffies are going T2. Next step: BBs, and I quit. 52% is over 50% +1 ty gf gl hf Also, as discussed with DP, the winner of the current war shall be decided by a BO3 4v4 SC2, get your men trained up im pretty sure theyll need it (not pointing anyone in particular *cough* DIRTY PROTAGONIST *cough*) Dont be scared for t2 rifters tbh, theyre not allowed in kwarks fleet, only a couple of us (me, michael, gem?,) actually really fly t2 rifters, but as far as im concerned im the only one who really flies one often. also, fuck BB, were getting the falcon fleet ready for yo assssssssssssss
bmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmbmbmbmbmbmbmbmbmmmmbm!
bm.
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On April 19 2011 07:46 TurpinOS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 07:42 Mumbleskates wrote:On April 19 2011 07:29 TurpinOS wrote:On April 19 2011 06:39 Sard Caid wrote:On April 19 2011 06:22 Mumbleskates wrote:On April 19 2011 06:18 Sard Caid wrote:On April 19 2011 05:32 Mumbleskates wrote:On April 18 2011 22:55 Valenius wrote:On April 18 2011 22:37 Mumbleskates wrote:On April 18 2011 21:58 KwarK wrote:
Widders was a griefer who was actively abusing exploits in the game to kill hatchery members before joining tl and joined tl with absolutely no interest in either the site or starcraft. He was the very definition of a malicious user and is in no way comparable to a community member who joins because they want to be a part of the community and then finds the eve thread. If he was exploiting then why wasn't he banned from EVE? There are petitions for that sort of thing. From the combat records that I came across on killboards it just looks like he was killing your guys, yes, but unless he's using some kind of magical exploits that I've never heard of why couldn't you kill him back? And by the way, I don't know what you mean by "griefing," but in EVE when someone complains about griefers, 99% of the time they are just complaining that they are losing ships (i.e. "griefing" = PVP). Killing mining ships just because they are in lowsec is "griefing." Canflipping and then killing missioners when they shoot at you is "griefing." There are almost no things that you can do that, in my mind, genuinely count as real griefing in EVE. And you guys should be no strangers to this idea; you are constantly getting excited over finding missioners and killing them, and miners, and all this stuff. There's nothing wrong with that, but if you can see why that's fun, it's a shame you have to label someone as hateful and evil because they do the same thing to you. Again, maybe I am missing something. A Corp called 'Dark Horses.' war-decced us and we had a few scarse fights in the first few weeks. Then it descended into him leaving his corp, and re-joining when he had found one of our missioning ships in high-sec. His employment history throughout this time was ridiculous, but i'm sure someone will explain it better than me. I was very new at the time. I guess we labeled it as Griefing, because unless we had people ready to go on a minutes notice throughout the day, there was absolutely fuck all we could do. Looks to me like he never left the corp, like Warri said... and he was never even IN Dark Horses. So... not the whole story. He also killed you in several systems. Also on the undock? On April 19 2011 01:15 Sard Caid wrote:
The way this becomes "legit" is when the exploiter waits down a session timer between accepting the application and pewing your ship. Even then, a friend of a friend who used to abuse this mechanic was temp banned after talking to a GM about what's legal and what's not.
Honestly if you get enough people petitioning, you'll probably see the exploiter temp banned for some duration. No, I do know about this. It's not that you have to wait 30 seconds for a session timer, it's that you have to go through an actual session change, which is different. A lot of people mess this up on the first attempt because it is not very clearly defined anywhere. And it has nothing to do with how many people petition the guy at once, and everything to do with prior warnings for the same offense. But apparently he can't have done this more than once. That doesn't explain how you weren't able to kill him, unless he was just choosing his fights wisely. Really? Because the only way I've seen to consistently get GMs to look at botters and other exploiters was with 1) #s of petitions 2) language of petitions (PvEer pleas vs PvPer pleas). @ session change: if this is the same thing as jumping from one system to another, or undocking, then yeah, that's what I'm referring to. But even then, after discussing through a convo at length about what's safe to do and what's not said friend of friend was temp banned. So the vagueness of it all indeed makes it stupid, and anyone looking at the mechanic should just take it as an exploit when wondering about GM repercussions. On April 19 2011 05:48 TurpinOS wrote:
Im still eagerly awaiting to know who that mumbles guy is in game, just you know, curiosity, but I somehow doubt its going to happen since hes already been asked by Kizu and didnt do so... I can sort of guess why.
On a different note nice fight, sucks i missed it. I would like to see who you are on BC or something, to back up all this talk you have. We already know that TurpinOS is Caelum Terra. Also, time and time again GMs have been proven to have a very tenuous grasp on what is and isn't legal in EVE. Just because you can change the probable immediate outcome with various whines and appeals doesn't make you right, or the punishment permanent. It does, however, work. @ Cael: session timer is any time you get the 30 second timer for doing something, such as switching ships, undocking, jumping through a system, so on. -.- Yes, but the guy seemed to say that theres a difference between session timer of 30 secs. (what you brought up and everyone is used to) and ''session change'' which I have no clue what it is. (for now it looks to be a mystical concept only he knows about as seen from the post I quoted) Your usual biting sarcasm aside, you're actually right. Very few people know the difference, because CCP and the GMs often don't know it themselves. A session TIMER is a timer that keeps you from changing sessions; these can be created by changing ships, doing stuff with fleets, and all that. A session change is when you do one of the things that Sard listed. Just waiting for the timer isn't enough when you switch corps, you have to actually get a session change. Call it a ''ahdfvhasyergweyrgaewr'' if you want, its still the exact same thing. Also Sard listed changing ship, so is it a session timer or a session change ? oh wait, its the same thing. edit : still dont know who you are ingame
Not sure how to make it any more clear than what I wrote right there. I laid out the difference clearly and explicitly, and if you take the time to read it you will have your answer. Obviously I cannot make you do it, but it's not my loss.
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On April 19 2011 11:59 Sard Caid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 10:42 TurpinOS wrote:On April 19 2011 10:27 Sard Caid wrote:
Winning? @ 52% efficiency? What's the level of variance on that figure? Also, would you please stop carebearing and start undocking Sleipnirs again, it might help us "swing the tide".
Though again, I'm getting skurred now that your riffies are going T2. Next step: BBs, and I quit. 52% is over 50% +1 ty gf gl hf Also, as discussed with DP, the winner of the current war shall be decided by a BO3 4v4 SC2, get your men trained up im pretty sure theyll need it (not pointing anyone in particular *cough* DIRTY PROTAGONIST *cough*) Dont be scared for t2 rifters tbh, theyre not allowed in kwarks fleet, only a couple of us (me, michael, gem?,) actually really fly t2 rifters, but as far as im concerned im the only one who really flies one often. also, fuck BB, were getting the falcon fleet ready for yo assssssssssssss bmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmbmbmbmbmbmbmbmbmmmmbm! bm.
I'm getting my 7 alts together and shoving them all in blackbirds. Octo-Boxing should be easy enough
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On April 19 2011 12:35 Valenius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 11:59 Sard Caid wrote:On April 19 2011 10:42 TurpinOS wrote:On April 19 2011 10:27 Sard Caid wrote:
Winning? @ 52% efficiency? What's the level of variance on that figure? Also, would you please stop carebearing and start undocking Sleipnirs again, it might help us "swing the tide".
Though again, I'm getting skurred now that your riffies are going T2. Next step: BBs, and I quit. 52% is over 50% +1 ty gf gl hf Also, as discussed with DP, the winner of the current war shall be decided by a BO3 4v4 SC2, get your men trained up im pretty sure theyll need it (not pointing anyone in particular *cough* DIRTY PROTAGONIST *cough*) Dont be scared for t2 rifters tbh, theyre not allowed in kwarks fleet, only a couple of us (me, michael, gem?,) actually really fly t2 rifters, but as far as im concerned im the only one who really flies one often. also, fuck BB, were getting the falcon fleet ready for yo assssssssssssss bmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmbmbmbmbmbmbmbmbmmmmbm! bm. I'm getting my 7 alts together and shoving them all in blackbirds. Octo-Boxing should be easy enough
F1 F1 F1 F1 F1 F1 F1 F1
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On April 19 2011 13:08 Mumbleskates wrote:
I'm getting my 7 alts together and shoving them all in blackbirds. Octo-Boxing should be easy enough
F1 "alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1[/QUOTE]
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On April 19 2011 10:27 Sard Caid wrote:
Winning? @ 52% efficiency? What's the level of variance on that figure? Also, would you please stop carebearing and start undocking Sleipnirs again, it might help us "swing the tide".
Though again, I'm getting skurred now that your riffies are going T2. Next step: BBs, and I quit.
Sir, we are giving you an opportunity to let yourself off easy. 48% against The Hatchery (or The Hatchary) is more than respectable. If any further attempts at aggression come our way, we will have to resort to extreme measures...
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On April 19 2011 13:17 Inzek wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 13:08 Mumbleskates wrote:
I'm getting my 7 alts together and shoving them all in blackbirds. Octo-Boxing should be easy enough F1 "alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1 fixed
I stand humble and corrected.
On April 19 2011 15:50 DefMatrixUltra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 10:27 Sard Caid wrote:
Winning? @ 52% efficiency? What's the level of variance on that figure? Also, would you please stop carebearing and start undocking Sleipnirs again, it might help us "swing the tide".
Though again, I'm getting skurred now that your riffies are going T2. Next step: BBs, and I quit. Sir, we are giving you an opportunity to let yourself off easy. 48% against The Hatchery (or The Hatchary) is more than respectable. If any further attempts at aggression come our way, we will have to resort to extreme measures... + Show Spoiler [You don't want to look] +
Confirming ECM rifters
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On April 19 2011 19:34 Mumbleskates wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 13:17 Inzek wrote:On April 19 2011 13:08 Mumbleskates wrote:
I'm getting my 7 alts together and shoving them all in blackbirds. Octo-Boxing should be easy enough F1 "alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1 fixed I stand humble and corrected. Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 15:50 DefMatrixUltra wrote:On April 19 2011 10:27 Sard Caid wrote:
Winning? @ 52% efficiency? What's the level of variance on that figure? Also, would you please stop carebearing and start undocking Sleipnirs again, it might help us "swing the tide".
Though again, I'm getting skurred now that your riffies are going T2. Next step: BBs, and I quit. Sir, we are giving you an opportunity to let yourself off easy. 48% against The Hatchery (or The Hatchary) is more than respectable. If any further attempts at aggression come our way, we will have to resort to extreme measures... + Show Spoiler [You don't want to look] + Confirming ECM rifters
Reminds me of that one armor-hac fleet concept with all zealots fitting one ecm mod each :>.
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On April 19 2011 19:50 ChinaRestaurant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2011 19:34 Mumbleskates wrote:On April 19 2011 13:17 Inzek wrote:On April 19 2011 13:08 Mumbleskates wrote:
I'm getting my 7 alts together and shoving them all in blackbirds. Octo-Boxing should be easy enough F1 "alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1"alt tab" F1 fixed I stand humble and corrected. On April 19 2011 15:50 DefMatrixUltra wrote:On April 19 2011 10:27 Sard Caid wrote:
Winning? @ 52% efficiency? What's the level of variance on that figure? Also, would you please stop carebearing and start undocking Sleipnirs again, it might help us "swing the tide".
Though again, I'm getting skurred now that your riffies are going T2. Next step: BBs, and I quit. Sir, we are giving you an opportunity to let yourself off easy. 48% against The Hatchery (or The Hatchary) is more than respectable. If any further attempts at aggression come our way, we will have to resort to extreme measures... + Show Spoiler [You don't want to look] + Confirming ECM rifters Reminds me of that one armor-hac fleet concept with all zealots fitting one ecm mod each :>.
Whenever I see a ship that has only 3 midslots I think "You know what would really spice up this fit? ECM!"
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