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Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
April 12 2011 17:59 GMT
#9301
I am so broke. I almost didn't have enough money to repair my Dominix after a little mishap on a level 4 :p I need to get the hang of doing Level 4 missions in armor tanked ships.

This song hits very close to my heart right now:
Part Time Ninja
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
April 12 2011 18:33 GMT
#9302
On April 13 2011 02:59 Arhkangel wrote:
I am so broke. I almost didn't have enough money to repair my Dominix after a little mishap on a level 4 :p I need to get the hang of doing Level 4 missions in armor tanked ships.

This song hits very close to my heart right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR6oYX1D-0w


Undock and repair it with armor reps.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
April 12 2011 18:55 GMT
#9303
Wow. So fucking unlucky.

Probe down a self-named missioning tengu and we're gunning for it. Enter accel gate JUST as he's taking another accel gate 40km away so he sees us. Obviously he's gone by the time we take the next gate.

If we had been any SLIGHTLY SLOWER we would've arrived right after he took the gate, then we would have arrived on him at 0 and had him.

FML.

I probe too quickly.
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Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
April 12 2011 19:00 GMT
#9304
On April 13 2011 03:55 Firebolt145 wrote:

I probe too quickly.


Not sure if serious.
Serious Business
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44279 Posts
April 12 2011 19:09 GMT
#9305
On April 13 2011 00:20 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 21:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm using Karah's number's, I personally only got about 80m an hour or so.

edit: I just realised a lot of the numbers in my post above are fucked up. Toons with 50m SP are going for 10-12b on the character bazaar. Whatever. Overall point still stands.


how the hell do you guys mission

In a mach, blitzing, declining any but the most blitzable missions. 80m/hr is a conservative estimate when you're getting 40k LP an hour and converting at around 3k/lp. Twice that if you dualbox. Why, how do you mission?
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44279 Posts
April 12 2011 19:16 GMT
#9306
On April 13 2011 00:51 Jombozeus wrote:
Well I can fly a tengu on the char (its an alt) and he wants me in a merlin. I actually didnt want the join the hatchery, but just PVP alongside you guys because I wanted to participate in the game with TL.

Any respectable person wouldn't choose to be patronized and fly in a merlin for 3 days until you get accel control 4 to get into a drake... Especially because I also have the option of flying with the clusterfuck that is the NC in perfectly good sniper hac fleets or cap fleets etc.

I'm not exactly bragging, being in the NC and having a few T2 ships doesn't make me good at this game, but Kwark, you were condescending and being a total elitist. I hope you realize that low-sec PVP isn't exactly end-all-be-all. I know you run darkside. style nanodrakes, and that acceleration control may be important, but don't make yourself sound like the boss of the game. I actually live 4 jumps away from darkside. and fight with them regularly, its not exactly the case that I'm a clueless 2 week old char.

I think being a FC has gotten to your head a little, maybe you should
Show nested quote +
he went all emo. We're better off without his failures on our killboard.
be a bit more honest, and admit that I wasn't emo at all and kept my composure the entire conversation, and I never intended to join the hatchery and thus would not have been on your killboard (plus, I have a respectable personal killboard with kills against podla and black legion dudes). Perhaps instead of spreading misinformation on the forums to act tough, you can be a bit more honest and down to earth.

Thanks.

You got in a hissy fit because you felt I was talking down to you and QQed out of the conversation when all I wanted was for you to spend a few hours in frigates to prove you weren't retarded. You were the one acting like you were too good to fly a frigate with us. I didn't patronise you, you were just really, really stuck up and I don't think having a lot of SP justifies that. I treated you like I treat everyone else, if you think your SP makes you too good to fly a frigate and prove yourself then that's your issue.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 19:26:38
April 12 2011 19:26 GMT
#9307
You could do fw missions too, even better isk/hr, downside is you need to be in militia
Altaen
Profile Joined March 2011
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 19:43:37
April 12 2011 19:41 GMT
#9308
On April 13 2011 04:26 Zavior wrote:
You could do fw missions too, even better isk/hr, downside is you need to be in militia


True. Almost all are soloable in a Stealth Bomber, and the LP store is half-priced. They are also very well-designed for blitzing, with many having a single target that you can pop and move on to the next.

Tricky bit is that you want to use the opposite from logical bomber. If you are in the Minmatar Militia you want to use a Purifier, and if you're in the Amarr you want to use a Hound. In the Minmatar militia you pull from Minnie low-sec and the missions are in Amarr low-sec, and vice-versa.

L5s are also awesome. Blitzed 4 or 5 of them with a couple friends recently, 70k LP per mission and some only taking 5-15 minutes to run was quite nice.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
April 12 2011 19:44 GMT
#9309
On April 13 2011 04:09 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 00:20 WiljushkA wrote:
On April 12 2011 21:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm using Karah's number's, I personally only got about 80m an hour or so.

edit: I just realised a lot of the numbers in my post above are fucked up. Toons with 50m SP are going for 10-12b on the character bazaar. Whatever. Overall point still stands.


how the hell do you guys mission

In a mach, blitzing, declining any but the most blitzable missions. 80m/hr is a conservative estimate when you're getting 40k LP an hour and converting at around 3k/lp. Twice that if you dualbox. Why, how do you mission?


havent missioned since liquid moved into 0.0 in 2009, just dont remember it being that lucrative. didnt do missions in 0,5 though, and had scrub skills. 100+m an hour sounds a stupid amount of money for no risk hisec PvE when people make less in sanctums with motherships, or incursions.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
April 12 2011 19:45 GMT
#9310
On April 13 2011 04:44 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 04:09 KwarK wrote:
On April 13 2011 00:20 WiljushkA wrote:
On April 12 2011 21:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm using Karah's number's, I personally only got about 80m an hour or so.

edit: I just realised a lot of the numbers in my post above are fucked up. Toons with 50m SP are going for 10-12b on the character bazaar. Whatever. Overall point still stands.


how the hell do you guys mission

In a mach, blitzing, declining any but the most blitzable missions. 80m/hr is a conservative estimate when you're getting 40k LP an hour and converting at around 3k/lp. Twice that if you dualbox. Why, how do you mission?


havent missioned since liquid moved into 0.0 in 2009, just dont remember it being that lucrative. didnt do missions in 0,5 though, and had scrub skills. 100+m an hour sounds a stupid amount of money for no risk hisec PvE when people make less in sanctums with motherships, or incursions.

No risk? I lost my mach to a bunch of scrambling frigate rats.
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WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
April 12 2011 19:52 GMT
#9311
well thats cuz ure bad
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44279 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 19:53:43
April 12 2011 19:52 GMT
#9312
On April 13 2011 04:44 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 04:09 KwarK wrote:
On April 13 2011 00:20 WiljushkA wrote:
On April 12 2011 21:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm using Karah's number's, I personally only got about 80m an hour or so.

edit: I just realised a lot of the numbers in my post above are fucked up. Toons with 50m SP are going for 10-12b on the character bazaar. Whatever. Overall point still stands.


how the hell do you guys mission

In a mach, blitzing, declining any but the most blitzable missions. 80m/hr is a conservative estimate when you're getting 40k LP an hour and converting at around 3k/lp. Twice that if you dualbox. Why, how do you mission?


havent missioned since liquid moved into 0.0 in 2009, just dont remember it being that lucrative. didnt do missions in 0,5 though, and had scrub skills. 100+m an hour sounds a stupid amount of money for no risk hisec PvE when people make less in sanctums with motherships, or incursions.

It is. I don't mission anymore but yeah, it's broken. Fortunately the vast majority of missionrunners in the game use cap stable monstrousities and go for bounties rather than LP and then sell the LP to me so I can take all the profit from their hard work. But if you actually know what's up it just ruins the rest of the game. Exploration is kinda interesting but just not lucrative enough in comparison. With high faction standing you can just spam decline until you get something like worlds collide 4 or the assault which take less than 5 minutes and pay 9k LP.

They're not gonna touch it because most people mission really badly and make fuck all but once you know how it's done it's not worth doing anything else (except wh obv). Lowsec is ridiculously barren in comparison which sucks because it's really interesting for pvp. Imo they should massively buff exploration and l5 missions so that l4s are not so stupidly good in comparison (nerfing l4s being impossible).
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
April 12 2011 20:11 GMT
#9313
thats the crux about l4s, very few people know how to abuse them and just do them casually in a missileboat, selling implants or ammo for 1k/lp
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
April 12 2011 20:15 GMT
#9314
I'm happy to sell Kwark my LP under 2k/lp, I'm still making over 1 million a minute and I know he's making a killing off me, its still win/win imo. Plus, the pile of money under his drake needs to be larger.

[image loading]
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 20:38:32
April 12 2011 20:38 GMT
#9315
Hahahahaha I love that picture, should become a meme that we spam into every local we enter.

edit: wtf where'd my 1000 post go
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44279 Posts
April 12 2011 20:47 GMT
#9316
RF LP isn't worth 2k each. Need to know which corp to mission for.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
April 12 2011 20:55 GMT
#9317
I was going to put gold bars there, but they lack definition for that stack effect
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
April 12 2011 20:57 GMT
#9318
On April 13 2011 05:47 KwarK wrote:
RF LP isn't worth 2k each. Need to know which corp to mission for.



I wish i knew your secret =(
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
April 12 2011 21:02 GMT
#9319
On April 13 2011 05:57 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 05:47 KwarK wrote:
RF LP isn't worth 2k each. Need to know which corp to mission for.



I wish i knew your secret =(


+ Show Spoiler [Secret] +

Mining in Navy Raven fleet of alts.

Shhhhh don't tell.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44279 Posts
April 12 2011 21:14 GMT
#9320
On April 13 2011 05:57 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 05:47 KwarK wrote:
RF LP isn't worth 2k each. Need to know which corp to mission for.



I wish i knew your secret =(

It's jayme's secret really.
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