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tHornstein
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom201 Posts
November 30 2010 14:20 GMT
#3921
trust ccp to fuck up the patch deployment \o/

Look at me rofl, bittervetting and my character isn't even 3months old yet.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44071 Posts
November 30 2010 14:23 GMT
#3922
I'm patched, server is up.
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Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
November 30 2010 14:23 GMT
#3923
Void still HAS a tracking penalty and I fear it'll negate any real damage bonus as you just won't hit anything. If anything, the short range T2 ammo should give a tracking boost, not a penalty.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
November 30 2010 14:25 GMT
#3924
On November 30 2010 23:23 Thezzy wrote:
Void still HAS a tracking penalty and I fear it'll negate any real damage bonus as you just won't hit anything. If anything, the short range T2 ammo should give a tracking boost, not a penalty.


yeah.. i want hail with tracking bonus too
Stork FAN!!!
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
November 30 2010 14:27 GMT
#3925
Void S would be the only void I would see being worth using as it turns your cap to dust, correct me if Im wrong but I dont think the stacking penalties to your cap would be worth the extra damage over CN Antimatter L when it comes to keeping your hardeners on/reps running
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
November 30 2010 14:31 GMT
#3926
Cap increase would be a fair penalty if the bonus damage was good enough and it was the only penalty. Keep in mind T2 ammo is a lot cheaper than Faction ammo so that does count for something.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 30 2010 14:51 GMT
#3927
* It is no longer possible to create Loan contracts. Furthermore, existing in-progress loan contracts will become invalid in January 2011 as a part of a major Contracts refactoring. If you have a loan contract in progress you are encouraged to complete it before the end of this year to avoid any possible inconvenience.

Welp. I guess I'm never coming back to EVE.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 15:20:06
November 30 2010 15:19 GMT
#3928
On November 30 2010 14:05 s_side wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 11:21 Arhkangel wrote:
On November 30 2010 11:13 tHornstein wrote:
On November 30 2010 08:34 TurpinOS wrote:
Makes sense with the amount of missions kwark (+wp)/karah/toades run



subtract the stupid number of missionships those clowns lose aaaand

we just about break even.


QFT

also panhdah is Kill On Sight. He stole from us. I was happy to give it to him but he's and ungrateful little punk. What did he stole? Knowledge, that's what. 25mil to Whoever posts a real killmail with kizu dying. +5mil if you do it with a salvager fitted +5 mil if he has salvage loot on his cargo-hold.


Real KM? Check.

Salvager Fitted? Check.

Salvage in cargo?Negatory.

https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=293632


You can send the 30m to Gordon Alexander in game. Thanks.


faffy prolly had an aneurysm when he saw that killmail.

t1 web, salvager, t2 mwd and 2 killmail whoring rigs. i half expected a cargo expander :p
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 15:55:19
November 30 2010 15:52 GMT
#3929
Yeah, that was one of my very early tackling maledictions for training. I fly the nos setup now w/mixed t2/t1 launchers cause I'm too cheap for the implants. Its not like they'll miss my epic extra 5dps if I had used one or was it two? extra t2 launchers.

Just efted up an AB sader fit, man that thing looks sexy. 5.2k ehp, 181 dps. Could probably beat fail fit drams.

Possible Caldari Frigate V after Caldari Cruiser V for me.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44071 Posts
November 30 2010 19:16 GMT
#3930
New patch makes eve so damn stable. It's beautiful. Absolutely no crashing issues when dualboxing. Naturally I have to push it so I went up to triboxing and it was still smooth for over an hour before one of them stopped responding. The other two kept on ticking though, this is going to massively increase my isk output.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
November 30 2010 21:23 GMT
#3931
One of Kwarks first comment about the stability

''Im definately dualboxing Golems''

Really think he should also buy a Noctis for the real carebear tribox
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
November 30 2010 21:45 GMT
#3932
Why settle with 2x the range of your salvagers when you can have 3x (60%x5) the range instead...DOT DOT DOT
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 30 2010 23:16 GMT
#3933
its 4x the range instead wtf.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 30 2010 23:18 GMT
#3934
On November 30 2010 23:20 tHornstein wrote:
trust ccp to fuck up the patch deployment \o/

Look at me rofl, bittervetting and my character isn't even 3months old yet.

I guess you've never played WoW before.

8 hour maintenance every Tuesday regardless of patches. Patches usually result in 16 hour downtimes, occasionally running on and on endlessly. When the servers finally go up, they end up lagging like a BITCH and take a day or so to stabilise.

This is my first ever patch in Eve and it is a dream.
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Invol2ver
Profile Joined September 2010
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 02:56:46
December 01 2010 02:50 GMT
#3935
So tonight was my first op since Kwark decided he wanted to see me try my hand at FCing. I'm a month and a half in to this account. No pressure.

Decided that we would head down towards Weld, an old missioning ground of mine in lowsec. Why mission in lowsec you say? Well it was not long ago I was little more than a liability to our war targets near home and I was trying to train myself to actually pay attention to local/scans and the like. But I digress.

Anyway the reason to head down here is that there is a particular corp, "The Humbleless Crew" that live out that way and were a pretty big thorn in my side during my missioning there. Now that is all fair, that's what comes from running in lowsec. They never managed to get me but I did have a few close calls, and the obligatory comments in local ensued about "do you ever get tired of running?", "This is our space" blah blah etcetc. These guys were chasing a 2mil SP char out of mission pockets and feeling pretty good about themselves for it, well, they had their glory and I decided that if I ever had the chance I'd get mine.

So on to the op.

Kwark mentioned we were going to go poke around in lowsec and that I would be FCing with full reimbursement privileges, no pressure. So we started in Teonusude and made our destination Weld. The first few systems were pretty bare, Bosena was busy as it always is but there was not much going on that we could have gotten in on. Nothing through the next approximately 5 jumps as well. Kwark was scouting in his Rapier on WP and I felt confident that if there was an opportunity he would make it known. Egbinger was empty and we poked in to BVIP long enough to see local empty as well. Starting to get discouraging.

As we got closer to Weld we acquired some company. A few fleet members noticed that there was a cloaky Pilgrim following us but we didn't think about it much. We got to Weld, which we found relatively empty, and decided to circle up around Osvetur and make the loop back home. It was then we caught two more pilots from the same corp as the cloaky pilgrim spike local as we consolidated on the out gate. This was great work by our guys noticing this because within 10 or so seconds they were on us on the out gate. They had Scimitars with lots of force multiplication and I passed fleet command off to Kwark as I am very inexperienced with actual fleet tactics and I'd like to not have everyone die to that. The situation was managed well and Kwark had us draw agression from just about all of the enemy fleet before jumping through the gate and executing a burn off the gate behind the cover of his Rapier's amazing webs.

This would have gone off without a hitch had Johnny Business been on vent and known what was happening. He returned fire on the opposite side of the gate and was unable to warp through when the call was made, donated his Harb when we could have escaped cleanly from a FAR superior fleet.

We successfully disengaged with the exception of Johnny and regrouped in the next system. We made the decision to continue on the roam, having dodged that bullet. As we pushed on we ran in to the pilgrim again 2 jumps later with the rest of the fleet holding on the other side of the outgate. We made the decision to jump through in to the camp with the plans to perform the same maneuver we had before again. I failclicked and broke my Rifter's cloak a few seconds after jumping through, which I frantically crashed the gate and tried to get back through. This was not smart of me and I barely made it back through. The fleet successfully disengaged behind the cover of the Rapier once again on the other side of the gate and we took no losses and again escaped a far superior fleet which was showing some impressive coordination.

We decided we'd not push our luck any more and turned back to head home the way we came after that. We got back in to Weld and...surprise, a pirate Humbleless pilot is in local. We come through and he shows up on a gate with us about 50k off in a Cynabal. We got a point on him but he promptly turned to outrun us and bail out when Penguins showed up with the Rapier and locked the shit out of him.at this point we pointed him up and started pouring on the DPS. Capqu got in to structure before we finally broke the tank but kwark showed up and "finished the fight" in his words. I'm not sure about "finishing" the fight but he maintains that the presence of his Drake ended the fight. Even though he was at 20% armor when he showed up, we'll let him have that one like we do every one.

Anyway, fuck yeah, vendetta fulfilled, the trash talking corp that runs 2mil SP noobs out of their mission pockets in lowsec and pounds their chest over it just lost a 300 mil Cynabal. But it got better. We headed home and 2 systems later we ran in to the same Humbleless pilot again, this time in a Hurricane. We found him on a gate, he warped through, we gave chase. We got a point on him on the other side and Penguins busted his webs again as the Cane tried to burn back through. I did not engage and instead took my Rifter through the gate just before he was able to jump back through. I was barely able to land a point on him before he warped out on the other side and the cavalry poured through the gate and finished the kill as my Rifter went down. A 500k isk loss for a 300m Cynabal and a 50m hurricane. Fuck. Yes.

At this point, for me, the op was over. I flew home in a shuttle with a big banana grin on my face for what we had done there. It may not seem like much but I've only been in this game for 40 some odd days, that was awesome.

Wow, so this got a little lengthy. It was my first op so I decided I'd be comprehensive. In the coming weeks I hope to get a better feel for different ships and their roles in a fleet, fleet composition, and combat maneuvering as I have incredibly little experience in all of these.

Thanks to everyone for coming out. Kwark, Karah, capqu, as always great to fly with. Phisp was a new guy on his first op in an Incursus and did a great job following the orders of the more experienced pilots and was a contributor. Good to see new guys proactively getting out there on ops, same as I did.

Sorry for the long write up, I figured I'd be comprehensive on my first op, hope it was interesting. It certainly was for me. Looking forward to doing this some more.

=]

Edit: obligatory KMs from the kills mentioned.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11848565
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11848861

And Kwark having some fun on the way home.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11849481
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11849482
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11849484
Losing money is less good than making it, confirm?
tHornstein
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom201 Posts
December 01 2010 02:56 GMT
#3936
humbleless crew are my homeboys
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 03:08:33
December 01 2010 03:04 GMT
#3937
Just want to add that Johnny deliberately decided to attack a force of 3 sleipnirs, 2 scimmies and a pilgrim without anyone else attacking it when we had a clear route of escape. The order in that situation will never be to attack, I have absolutely no idea what he was thinking because with our basic t1 ship setup there was never anything we could have done.
I obviously finished the cynabal fight. We spent like 3 minutes grinding against it and messing around while the damage dealers tried to get into a position to engage (because the entire battlefield had move about 110k) and the battle ended about 4 seconds after my drake finally got in on it.
Also a great call by Orandos not to tackle the cane after Capqu called point on it. We had four guys in position, a drake with a shortpoint (essentially useless for gatetackle but can force the deal once a fight starts) on one side of the gate and the rapier, ares and rifter on the other. Once the ares called point he couldn't warp away and the rapier meant he couldn't burn away either. Instead he attempted to burn back to the gate and jump back through where anyone aggressed (rapier and ares) wouldn't be able to immediately follow and the waiting drake wouldn't have been able to tackle. Orandos demonstrated excellent situational awareness to recognise that if the cane didn't burn back he was fucked anyway, there was nothing to be gained by throwing himself into the fray but by showing restraint he was able to jump back through with the cane, tackle it on the far side and hold it in place for long enough for the drake to get a secondary point and then clean up. If I'd been on the ball FCing that engagement I'd have said something like "whoever gets the point call it, the rest hold". I let that slip through but the guys beneath me had enough experience and discipline to execute it perfectly anyway.

Basically, when impetuously joining the fight would have let the target escape he didn't enter the battle but when his restraint rewarded him with the position of sole tackler on the cane he held it down despite the certainty of losing his own ship.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44071 Posts
December 01 2010 03:14 GMT
#3938
Awards for November are in btw.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=awards
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crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 03:50:56
December 01 2010 03:47 GMT
#3939
Hey Eve TLers! Do any of you guys know if the game is playable on a laptop with a x3100 integrated video card? I tried google but most of the results refer back to the classic client and not the 'new' premium lite client.

If its playable, I might give the game another shot I swear I probably have something like 3 super low level accounts (like 2-3 month playtime on each) but I just can't get into the game for whatever reason. I love open pvp games (first MMO I really got into was Shadowbane) but EVE's huge learning curve just rapes me... even when I started a new account with a few RL friends a few years ago.

Well chances are I'm going to pick up the WoW expansion when it comes out to play with RL friends and if it sucks, I'll probably pick up EVE if it's playable on my craptastic laptop.

/edit each time I quit because I got tired of getting raped at T2 missions. I outfit my ship and blow all my gold according to forum posts/guides for running T2 missions but I still get instant raped if I try them on solo. Also the time I retried the game with RL friends... there was like nothing for us to do together since we were newbies and we gave up after playing "together" (lol more like solo) for 2 months or so.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
December 01 2010 03:58 GMT
#3940
Everyone knows top killer = most importatnt awards

(To above post, i cant answer your graphic card (if you can even call it that) question, id suggest you try it its free anyways)
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
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