EVE Corporation - Page 1855

Snakeyes says:
Now, Tengu fleet has around 34k Shields, lower sigs, and should have at least 80% resistance across the board, This means to alpha said Tengu would require 2,720,000 just to break the shields. This of course assuming they hit your lowest resists which is EM.

Lebowski2 says:
Your EHP numbers are questionable.

Snakeyes says:
Feel free to do the math yourself, I was quite surprised by it myself.

Lebowski2 says:
With all Thermal and no boosts of any kind I'm still only getting 319,500 EHP which means that you're missing about 2.4 million promised hit points.
Ouch...

Snakeyes says:
Lesson on Resistances and the effects on your ship.

Resistances stop a percentage of damage from harming your ship, if you have 50% resistance, and you get hit for 100, you will only take 50 damage.

80% means you take 20 damage.

In the case of the Tengu, you have 84%, meaning every 100 damage you get hit for 16.

So your Shields multiplied by your resistance, means your EHP for that damage type.

So in our case, 34k Shields, multiplied by 84 equals, 2,856,000

This means, 2,856,000 worth of raw damage, after resistance, is 34k actual damage.

Darth Gustav says:
This is not how it works. ???

Snakeyes says:
Ummm it is....

Loquitur says:
To express how resists translate to EHP a bit more clearly, you have to work out what fraction of the damage is getting through, for example with 75% resist you are doing 1/4th as much damage (1-0.75=0.25). That means you have to do 4 times more damage to achieve the same result as with not resists, hence the EHP is 4 times as much.

Snakeyes says:
My bad. I was wrong because I was working out something more complicated than the problem which was too simple.

Snakeyes says:
Highsec navy LP is worth 12k isk per LP if you use my conversion, as LP is so incredibly valuable you should use ESS and rat in nullsec to make LP to make bank, please listen to my ideas, I have a lot to say

Snakeyes says:
Well yeah the isk/lp value calculators all collectively agree that the LP isn't worth a tenth of what I say it is but you can't trust those, you've got to just try it in game. The value of the LP can't be worked out from just taking the value of the item you made with LP and dividing it by the number of LP consumed, it's something you need to do for yourself and that's why my number is right.

Snakeyes says:
Well I divided the value of the item (144m) before costs (108m) by the number of LP (30k) and that gave me 6k isk/lp and so the LP is worth 6k.

Snakeyes says:
You actually make more LP ratting in nullsec using an ESS than running highsec level 4 missions so the best way to get LP for isk is from the ESS. You could do missions for LP, however with the correct setup, you can easily pull In more LP with an ESS.

Snakeyes says:
Okay, well it may not be the number I initially claimed but I assure you that if you listen to me you'll be making more isk than you were, be it 1 isk or 1 billion isk

Snakeyes says:
Well the numbers I gave may not have been right but everything in eve is fluid, who knows how the market will change tomorrow, that doesn't mean I'm really wrong. Obviously there is going to be variation in prices, demand depends on the meta, and what is happening in Eve.

Snakeyes says:
Well it's not worth 12k like I said it was, it's 850, but 850 is a positive number so honestly I can't see the problem, you're still making 850.

Snakeyes says:
Working out the numbers on paper is great, but going out and trying things yourself, far better.

Snakeyes says:
1k unresisted DPS yes, but realistically your going to be doing about 300 to 450DPS, likely less if they are running shield bonus skills. DPS you see in game, and in EFT, is assuming 0% resists. They may have resist, so 1k Raw damage is going to be less. Even less if they are running links

Snakeyes says:
So if I'm earning 266,420 isk before tax and the alliance takes 195,750 away from that in tax to leave me with 70,670 left over then really I was earning 462,170 so the tax rate is 462170/195750 or 42% which is way too high.

Snakeyes says:
You should listen to my advice. Oddly enough this isn't my first alliance to be discussing tactics, before this I spend 8 months running my own alliance, and dealing with Russians who countered us on a daily basis, before that I spent 2 years running the Euro/US side of the military in ROL, basically anywhere ive been in the past 5-6 years, this is what I have done. I don't think like most, as you see, I forward think, I work out counters to the counters that haven't even been countered yet, which keeps me ahead of the game. I am very good at predicting behaviour, and how people will act, and function, basically everything you would hate to be against in a game of poker. I know the guys we are against, I know how they think, I know how they fly, some of them ive had the pleasure of flying with before, I am not a noob at this, and likely have more experience in leading, designing, adapting and evolving fleets than most of the people in this thread.

Snakeyes says:
you wont scan down an interceptor even with max skills and implants

Not Snakeyes:
That's really not true, do you know how probing is calculated?

Snakeyes says:
I do probing, I know that interceptors are unprobable. If you don't do probing you can't comment.

Not Snakeyes:
Nothing is unprobable and hasn't been since 2011, furthermore probing strength is calculated by sig/sensor and interceptors, while having low sig, also have low sensor strength. They're not unprobable.

Snakeyes says:
Oh i am sorry, i shall bow to your knowledge now kind sir, clearly i must be wrong, and have never tried scanning frigs before, i also dont have an fc char with max scanning skills, nor scanning implants, so i wouldnt know

Not Snakeyes:
But you don't know, it's sig/sensor strength, inties have low sensor strength.

Snakeyes says:
Well that's just what the formula says

Snakeyes says:
If everyone just made Broadcast Nodes doing PI then we could make 22b per member of FA each month doing PI.

Snakeyes says:
So if you pay 11% tax on 1,141,203 then that's 287,100 so after tax it costs 1,428,303.

Snakeyes says:
It's literally impossible to make isk from reactions, even with an alliance discount, and nobody should do it. I know the goon spreadsheet says otherwise but that's just on paper.

Snakeyes says:
If your still unable to connect, try using the IP 192.95.3.202 insted of voice.fatal-ascension.com

Justicas says:
This wasn't a DNS issue

Snakeyes says:
Ummmm, firstly I probably understand this stuff better than you, but thank you for your input.
This WAS a DNS issue, or a routing issue to be more precise, and whilst flushing the DNS resolves the issue for most, for some it didn't resolve the problems. I was able to connect perfectly on one PC, but not on my laptop.

Justicas says:
This wasn't a DNS issue, at some point during yesterday the router upstream of our servers stopped responding to ARP requests (or started doing screwy things, god knows what happened).

This meant that while packets destined for the comms box were getting through fine, return traffic was unable to find its default gateway, thus you couldn't access it.

How exactly you expect switching to a static IP, flushing your DNS cache, or changing DNS resolver to help in a situation where the machine you are attempting to communicate with is unable to find a default route to the internet frankly boggles the mind.

Snakeyes says:
Oh, but my solution solves a different problem.