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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
February 24 2014 03:19 GMT
#35421
^ pretty much that, if you're mwding, you can mitigate a rather large percentage of warrior damage
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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
February 24 2014 09:06 GMT
#35422
What are good fleet setups for FW atm? Reactivated my account last week after almost 3 yrs and been FCing some 4-12 sized pub/friends gangs this weekend.
Flyingdutchman
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands858 Posts
February 24 2014 11:02 GMT
#35423
After about three months playing Eve I finally got on the right side of a killmail for a change. Some people from my corp were gasmining a site in our C2. The WH's were still open, critted, but still open. So I decided to jump into the site with my drake.

While I was slowboating to the three ventures a Proteus decloaked, pointed and webbed me and started to fire. I was able to shieldtank him while the ventures warped to the POS and got into their hangars. The first ship that came to help me was a slasher and another drake, dualboxed by a corpmate. Once the Proteus was webbed and pointed himself, and the other Drake arrived I was still on 30% shield with the Proteus overheating for most of the fight. Once my other corpmate warped in a Raven and restored my shield to full power with a remote booster the Proteus just stopped doing anything, realizing he'd done goofed. When the Rokh jumped in it was over quickly, and after a little cat and mouse game he managed to escape the through a HS WH.
https://zkillboard.com/detail/37040088/

After the initial joy of looting his wreck I started to feel a little guilty...untill I saw his previous kills from this weekend. Seems like he needs a Proteus to kill rookieships.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
February 24 2014 11:12 GMT
#35424
nice job, but you shouldn't shoot scourge at proteus, he would have died a lot faster.
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Flyingdutchman
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands858 Posts
February 24 2014 11:16 GMT
#35425
Thanks for the tip.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
February 24 2014 11:53 GMT
#35426
All these t3s with covops trying to gank tanky ships...
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4211 Posts
February 24 2014 13:11 GMT
#35427
On February 24 2014 18:06 FortuneSyn wrote:
What are good fleet setups for FW atm? Reactivated my account last week after almost 3 yrs and been FCing some 4-12 sized pub/friends gangs this weekend.

Talwar + tackle is a good setup, cheap, cost effective, and quite deadly. It's great for FW space because you can get into smalls and mediums to get fights.

Nano cruisers are still a thing. Omen, Omen navy, Vov came up with an interesting rail Thorax recently, etc. It's not like the Caracals of old, and you won't be able to get into smalls or novices, but it's still an effective fleet comp if you do get a fight.

You can always go pure frigates, get some people into ewar and/or logi frigs, a few into faster tackle frigates, and everyone else into frigates that do a lot of damage and you can accomplish quite a lot, even against bigger targets.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
February 24 2014 17:16 GMT
#35428
Nice, thanks for the advice. We've been doing destroyer + tackle set-ups. We tried using cheap throwaway tacklers but they die so quick and sometimes we don't get follow up point. Gonna try to run a malediction today for that
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-24 17:21:42
February 24 2014 17:21 GMT
#35429
Best ships to use in FW:

Heretic
Scythe Fleet
Aug Navy
Omen Navy
Ishtar
Talwar
Slicer
Arty Wolf
LIght tackle of your choice (Ideally merlin)
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
0m3ga
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Serbia322 Posts
February 24 2014 17:54 GMT
#35430
On February 25 2014 02:21 Ramiel wrote:
Best ships to use in FW:

Heretic
Scythe Fleet
Aug Navy
Omen Navy
Ishtar
Talwar
Slicer
Arty Wolf
LIght tackle of your choice (Ideally merlin)


Best ships to use in FW

Heretic




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Useless Ships
Don't you ever gf me back -Chessur
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
February 25 2014 04:11 GMT
#35431
talwar dunks things pretty well, just be careful of random shitfit beam navy omens that will actually fuck you up
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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
February 25 2014 09:07 GMT
#35432
Is the coercer any good?
Calanthe
Profile Joined October 2012
United States145 Posts
February 25 2014 16:55 GMT
#35433
Coercer is a little dps machine with great range for a frig and fantastic application. Not got pyfa on this computer but you want a rack of pulses with scorch, mwd MSE (pointless pvp is best), then nanos, heat sinks, aux power cores, whatever. Never TEs. Rigs go with locus + anti EM. Fly with at least two linkboats.
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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
February 25 2014 19:06 GMT
#35434
Awesome, gonna try this out. Looks solid in EFT.
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
February 25 2014 22:20 GMT
#35435
On February 26 2014 01:55 Calanthe wrote:
Coercer is a little dps machine with great range for a frig and fantastic application. Not got pyfa on this computer but you want a rack of pulses with scorch, mwd MSE (pointless pvp is best), then nanos, heat sinks, aux power cores, whatever. Never TEs. Rigs go with locus + anti EM. Fly with at least two linkboats.


Gotta have half a bil in links to fly a destroyer, awwww yeahhhhhh!
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
February 25 2014 22:45 GMT
#35436
only half a billion?

fucking legions and tengus with their ability to run 5-link for 300m
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Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
February 26 2014 01:53 GMT
#35437
Pirate frig changes https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=324954&find=unread


SUCCUBUS

Amarr Frigate Bonus:
7.5% bonus to Small Energy Turret tracking speed

Caldari Frigate Bonus:
20% bonus to Afterburner velocity bonus (was 5% energy turret damage)

Role Bonus:
125% bonus to Small Energy Turret damage (was 100% energy turret damage)


Slot layout: 3H(-1), 4M, 3L(+1); 2 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 44 PWG(-14), 170 CPU(-5)
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 650(+41) / 550(+6) / 540(+23)
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 450(+15) / 210000 (-24375) / 2.14 (+.09)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 340(+53) / 3.5(-.35) / 965000 / 4.68s(-.4)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 32km / 650 / 5
Sensor strength: 13
Signature radius: 33(+2)


I'm confused. Is this meant to be a brawling shield laser frig? What are the implications for the Phantasm? If it receives a AB buff as well... like I said I'm just kind of confused.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 02:04:35
February 26 2014 01:58 GMT
#35438
On February 26 2014 10:53 Omigawa wrote:
Pirate frig changes https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=324954&find=unread

Show nested quote +

SUCCUBUS

Amarr Frigate Bonus:
7.5% bonus to Small Energy Turret tracking speed

Caldari Frigate Bonus:
20% bonus to Afterburner velocity bonus (was 5% energy turret damage)

Role Bonus:
125% bonus to Small Energy Turret damage (was 100% energy turret damage)


Slot layout: 3H(-1), 4M, 3L(+1); 2 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 44 PWG(-14), 170 CPU(-5)
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 650(+41) / 550(+6) / 540(+23)
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 450(+15) / 210000 (-24375) / 2.14 (+.09)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 340(+53) / 3.5(-.35) / 965000 / 4.68s(-.4)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 32km / 650 / 5
Sensor strength: 13
Signature radius: 33(+2)


I'm confused. Is this meant to be a brawling shield laser frig? What are the implications for the Phantasm? If it receives a AB buff as well... like I said I'm just kind of confused.

The implications are clearly 100MN AB Phantasm sir

Now time to wait for Michael and Def to tell me what to think about these changes
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 02:10:39
February 26 2014 02:04 GMT
#35439
On February 26 2014 10:58 Body_Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 10:53 Omigawa wrote:
Pirate frig changes https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=324954&find=unread


SUCCUBUS

Amarr Frigate Bonus:
7.5% bonus to Small Energy Turret tracking speed

Caldari Frigate Bonus:
20% bonus to Afterburner velocity bonus (was 5% energy turret damage)

Role Bonus:
125% bonus to Small Energy Turret damage (was 100% energy turret damage)


Slot layout: 3H(-1), 4M, 3L(+1); 2 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 44 PWG(-14), 170 CPU(-5)
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 650(+41) / 550(+6) / 540(+23)
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 450(+15) / 210000 (-24375) / 2.14 (+.09)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 340(+53) / 3.5(-.35) / 965000 / 4.68s(-.4)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 32km / 650 / 5
Sensor strength: 13
Signature radius: 33(+2)


I'm confused. Is this meant to be a brawling shield laser frig? What are the implications for the Phantasm? If it receives a AB buff as well... like I said I'm just kind of confused.

The implications are clearly 100MN AB Phantasm sir


Yeah but that's what I mean, because of the bonus (if it does in fact get the same bonus) it's basically forcing you to fit it that way. Which is cool and all, but one of the pros to using an AB is no sig bloom... but these are shield tank ships. I just don't get the logic, but I guess this is where tofucake comes in and says :ccp:

edit - I feel like I'm not getting my point accross very well. If Phantasm gets same 20% AB bonus, 100mn seems like it's the only way to go. MWD wastes a bonus and because it's shield tanked you can't AHAC it and use a 10mn ab. It just seems like the ships are being completely shoehorned/gimped because CCP wants them to be played a specific way (presumably shield laser brawler?). It just seems really dumb
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19151 Posts
February 26 2014 11:42 GMT
#35440
why me?
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