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Omigawa
United States1556 Posts
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KwarK
United States44435 Posts
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Jones Hawkwood
Belgium54 Posts
Still, it's that hierachical order which offers most here the playgrounds for their infinite wealth and skill. Did we ever expect Eve not to be a reflection of current societal structures? Look at Eve China, it reflects theirs. | ||
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KwarK
United States44435 Posts
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Jones Hawkwood
Belgium54 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19268 Posts
On Serenity, there are only 3 or 4 large alliances, and they control all of null. They also are all in NAPs. Serenity null is big and boring and empty and peaceful. | ||
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Jones Hawkwood
Belgium54 Posts
There have been several articles that featured over at Mittens site that talk about the Chinese server as a reflection of the Chinese communist mentality. For years The Chinese server saw a very limited amount of alliances (five or so) dominate the entirety of null-sec. And by alliances, I mean alliances. I'm not talking about the current Western meta of Eve where you have an intricate web of alliances that form coalitions. I'm talking 5 alliances, all of null-sec. Moreover, the alliances have bilateral agreements which stipulate the boudaries of agression. This in turn makes the entirity of null-sec into a 'blue zone'. They still fight, if I can recall correctly but there are clear assurances of sov. Serenity simple does not feature alliances and coalitions going to war over girlfriends being called fat, or big egos who think they are the space king. It is a straight up reflection of their society. The articles are somewhat outdated, but I'll link them here. It's quite fascinating how many times you see current societal values reflected in virtual worlds. I say virtual, but what does that even mean? The construct of our sovereign nations is made up of 'virtual' agreements as well and the idea of property is a physical construct in the West rather than a mental one. Rousseau said it most eloquently when he said: The first man who, having fenced in a piece of land, said "This is mine," and found people naive enough to believe him, that man was the true founder of civil society. The chinese server is their interpretation of that idea. Tranquility is ours. Article 1: http://themittani.com/features/new-eden-behind-great-firewall Article 2: http://themittani.com/features/more-new-eden-behind-great-firewall Article 3: http://themittani.com/features/eve-behind-great-firewall-inside-null-bloc 3 mins of fun: | ||
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incifan
Germany138 Posts
Don't get me wrong, I find the idea hilarious and wouldn't mind it. | ||
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KwarK
United States44435 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On February 01 2014 01:26 Antoine wrote: I don't think that there would be a big paradigm shift. People wouldn't forget what they already know. maybe they would not but it would open up the sov warfare to new players. at the moment null sec is pretty much on lockdown by CFC, RUS, PL and N3. With a server reset it would give the chance for new alliances to form and carve out space for themselves. for me as a not that old player of EvE ( almost a year now) it would be much more exciting to witness the mad rush for territory and the fights that would happen in a new world. | ||
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hagon
United Kingdom556 Posts
On February 01 2014 02:00 Skilledblob wrote: With a server reset it would give the chance for new alliances to form and carve out space for themselves.. it really wouldn't. anyway, the same thing has been said before many many times before, yet here we are still fighting. its just the side that works harder wins | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3373 Posts
meh | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19268 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On February 01 2014 07:04 tofucake wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1woh5g/eve_sovereignty_map_2013/ http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1u0fdd/animated_new_eden_sovereignty_map_for_2013/ | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19268 Posts
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felisconcolori
United States6169 Posts
On February 01 2014 01:21 KwarK wrote: Nothing would be entrenched, there would be no status quo to overcome to do anything. You could see whole new developments such as the takeoff of large trade/industry based corporations or whatever. Most of eve does what it does because it does, a reset would see a new evolution taking place in eve as it is today rather than just building upon what eve as it was previously left behind. I'd also see most basic 1x skills taken out or starting at V, just because. I think you're missing the biggest part of the success of large scale coalitions - they are strongly organized outside of the game. It's not the ISK (although that helps), the infrastructure (although that helps), it's the large central organization of people that can send out a text and have 5k people login, fleet up, and move quickly. Reset the server, and those same 5k people will still play together, act in concert, and generally move as blocks. It's what makes Goonswarm such a PITA in all the games they play. You could say its Something Awful. + Show Spoiler + I'll see myself out. Yeeeeeaaaaaaah. | ||
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KwarK
United States44435 Posts
(1:27:41 AM) kwark_uk: if this guy asks for SRP (1:27:42 AM) kwark_uk: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21666770 (1:27:51 AM) kwark_uk: do him a favour, take him out back and unload a shotgun into him (1:27:59 AM) kwark_uk: it's what God would want (1:28:04 AM) kwark_uk: also if he doesn't ask for SRP (1:28:06 AM) kwark_uk: still do that (1:28:39 AM) kwark_uk: wtf is this http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21667204 (1:29:04 AM) kwark_uk: ruppy is a perfect 1600 plate ship with dual web for slaughtering frigs with 220mm autos and he goes for that failfit in a shield fleet (1:29:34 AM) kwark_uk: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21667062 I heard slots were overrated (1:30:00 AM) kwark_uk: seriously, how hard is "put modules in slots" (1:30:22 AM) kwark_uk: Li3 but seriously, oh my fucking God what the fuck happened here http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21666879 (1:30:44 AM) kwark_uk: empty mids, t2 mwd, 50mm plate and twin prop rigs with no dcu (1:31:08 AM) kwark_uk: and I thought the "I'm just gonna leave slots empty" ranis was bad (1:31:30 AM) kwark_uk: and that plate is t2, it didn't randomly drop, he went out and actually bought one of those for his heretic (1:32:00 AM) kwark_uk: Li3 had a good run but I think it's time to end that particular experiment | ||
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0m3ga
Serbia322 Posts
On February 01 2014 10:34 KwarK wrote: Me looking at an FA battle report (1:27:41 AM) kwark_uk: if this guy asks for SRP (1:27:42 AM) kwark_uk: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21666770 (1:27:51 AM) kwark_uk: do him a favour, take him out back and unload a shotgun into him (1:27:59 AM) kwark_uk: it's what God would want (1:28:04 AM) kwark_uk: also if he doesn't ask for SRP (1:28:06 AM) kwark_uk: still do that (1:28:39 AM) kwark_uk: wtf is this http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21667204 (1:29:04 AM) kwark_uk: ruppy is a perfect 1600 plate ship with dual web for slaughtering frigs with 220mm autos and he goes for that failfit in a shield fleet (1:29:34 AM) kwark_uk: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21667062 I heard slots were overrated (1:30:00 AM) kwark_uk: seriously, how hard is "put modules in slots" (1:30:22 AM) kwark_uk: Li3 but seriously, oh my fucking God what the fuck happened here http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21666879 (1:30:44 AM) kwark_uk: empty mids, t2 mwd, 50mm plate and twin prop rigs with no dcu (1:31:08 AM) kwark_uk: and I thought the "I'm just gonna leave slots empty" ranis was bad (1:31:30 AM) kwark_uk: and that plate is t2, it didn't randomly drop, he went out and actually bought one of those for his heretic (1:32:00 AM) kwark_uk: Li3 had a good run but I think it's time to end that particular experiment Why are you talking to yourself? | ||
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