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Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
September 04 2013 03:22 GMT
#33081
If i wanted to get "stupid amounts of isk" with low SP i would dual box my two acounts and do lvl4s semi afk in a domi with t2 sentry drones while converting the LP myself. Exploration is fun....and still gets you enough isk to keep buying your plex every month.....thats why i do it
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Is 13Mio SP considered low? (for the average player)
"Did you know that in the original batman movie they casted nestea as joker but when batman threw him into the acid he was fine so they had to recast it with Jack Nicholson......it's a true fact" -Artosis
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
September 04 2013 03:25 GMT
#33082
.......................100 m/hr is not even that worth it lol
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19058 Posts
September 04 2013 03:30 GMT
#33083
13m SP is very low
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
September 04 2013 03:58 GMT
#33084
On September 04 2013 12:30 tofucake wrote:
13m SP is very low

I just broke 30 and I still feel like I can't fly anything properly. Because I can't.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
September 04 2013 04:07 GMT
#33085
On September 04 2013 12:58 Impervious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 12:30 tofucake wrote:
13m SP is very low

I just broke 30 and I still feel like I can't fly anything properly. Because I can't.


And there i was thinking my 13Mio SP were indicating that im not a total scrub anymore.......eve hard game.
"Did you know that in the original batman movie they casted nestea as joker but when batman threw him into the acid he was fine so they had to recast it with Jack Nicholson......it's a true fact" -Artosis
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
September 04 2013 05:33 GMT
#33086
It's not the 13m SP that indicates whether you're a scrub, it's the fact that you're dual boxing domis in lvl 4 missions and converting the LP yourself.
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SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
September 04 2013 07:14 GMT
#33087
On September 04 2013 12:58 Impervious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 12:30 tofucake wrote:
13m SP is very low

I just broke 30 and I still feel like I can't fly anything properly. Because I can't.


It's okay, it just means you suck .
possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
September 04 2013 07:40 GMT
#33088
Name: GodofMonkeys
Security: -9.5
Corp: Blackwater USA Inc.
Alliance: Pandemic Legion
Faction: None
Ship: Cerberus
Weapon: Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher
Damage Done: 0

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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 12:37:24
September 04 2013 12:23 GMT
#33089
On September 04 2013 13:07 Scio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 12:58 Impervious wrote:
On September 04 2013 12:30 tofucake wrote:
13m SP is very low

I just broke 30 and I still feel like I can't fly anything properly. Because I can't.


And there i was thinking my 13Mio SP were indicating that im not a total scrub anymore.......eve hard game.

I can sit in a large variety of ships. I have all frigs and dessies to 5, caldari cruiser 5 (others are at 3 or 4), and all BC's to 5. I have Assault ships 4, interceptors 4, interdictors 4, and covops 5. So I can sit in a shitload of ships.

But the only T2 medium sized weapon systems that I can use are rapid light missiles. Remember the BC's to 5? I can't fly any of those with T2 weapons right now, so scratch them off the list..... And you know that not all caldari cruisers run with rapid lights, right? So guess what, I'm kindof stuck to rapid light boats.....

My shield skills are meh, my armor skills are terrible, so I'm kindof limited to situations where I don't actually need to tank a lot. Aka kiting. So you know all those really awesome brawling fits that tank super huge amounts of damage when you have all skills at 5? I can't fly any of those..... Or anything remotely good at brawling, without dying in a fire to a competent opponent.

I still don't have a single damage support skill to 5 (working on my first one right now actually - the missile speed boost to give me better projection). I've got AWU4 which is nice, but if I got it to 5, a few fits would be possible that I can't currently run. Also, my rigging skills are shit, so I can be limited by that as well. And my drones are terrible, so no drone boats.

I don't have great drug skills (not that I really use anything but quafe occasionally right now, so not a big issue), I only have cyber 4, thermo 4, and a few other really good skills that I really should have 5'd, but are still at 4.....

My only saving grace? My navs are essentially perfect. Which kindof helps me fly kiting ships well, so at least the ships I can fly well are relatively consistent.

30 million SP really isn't much. I need at least another 30 in supports before I could consider this character to be decent..... I didn't train for a specific line of ships, so this is taking a lot longer than it could, but I do have the option of sitting in a variety of different ships, depending on what I want to fly a the time, rather than being stuck in a specific type of ship all the time. This gives me a bit of flexibility, because different ships are good at different things, and being able to pick the right one for the job at hand can be better than just bringing whatever can be brought.

You can be a scrub with over 100 million SP. Or you can be a good pilot with very little SP. It depends on how fast of a learner you are. SP is a mechanic that gives you an idea of how long you've been playing the game, and it artificially increases the time needed to fly ships that progressively get more expensive, which is a good thing, because it prevents people from getting into ships that they have no idea how to fly until they are ready. Or, at least, that's the theory. In reality, it limits what good players can do, and bad players will still get their flashy ships, even though they are bad.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 19:45:02
September 04 2013 19:44 GMT
#33090
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3571728#post3571728
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Time for another update.
We discussed the Marauder situation further and came with the following changes:

Shield, armor and hull 30% resistance boosts have been removed on the Bastion Module - instead, all Marauders will now get proper tech2 resists. This will allow Marauders to have better RR use outside Bastion and reduce overall tanking effectiveness inside the mode.
We have removed all tanking bonuses on the Marauders hulls (Armor Repairer amount on the Paladin and Kronos, Shield Boost amount on the Golem and Vargur). Instead, we are giving them 7.5% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level. This will not only help reducing their tanking effectiveness, be more in theme with the ship role itself and help anyone using them with short range weapons. We are not giving them a full 10% per level back as this would be extremely powerful in conjunction with the other bonuses / Bastion. We are going to leave the full 10% web strength amount on the Serpentis ships for now and see how things evolve with time.
Also, we are removing the mass penalty on the Bastion mode. Tests have shown you can't really turn when it's active anyway, and we don't want to have players abuse that to collapse wormholes.

I will change the OP to match the changes.

Fuck it we'll do it live
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
rhiload
Profile Joined August 2013
United Kingdom34 Posts
September 04 2013 19:45 GMT
#33091
You can be a scrub with over 100 million SP. Or you can be a good pilot with very little SP. It depends on how fast of a learner you are. SP is a mechanic that gives you an idea of how long you've been playing the game, and it artificially increases the time needed to fly ships that progressively get more expensive, which is a good thing, because it prevents people from getting into ships that they have no idea how to fly until they are ready. Or, at least, that's the theory. In reality, it limits what good players can do, and bad players will still get their flashy ships, even though they are bad.


confirmed 20mil sp is way to low to fly with turn left. i am just with flying support all roam every roam every day.
it limits what good players can do

so true
I never asked for this.
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
September 04 2013 20:35 GMT
#33092
I was looking forward to Steve 2.0. Oh well.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19058 Posts
September 04 2013 20:53 GMT
#33093
Long live Steve
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
September 04 2013 21:25 GMT
#33094
On September 05 2013 05:35 Mandini wrote:
I was looking forward to Steve 2.0. Oh well.

Only they've now made Steve 2.1a Specific Tank Edition, as the 'bastion' module keeps the rep increase, and the hull gets full t2 tank instead of the 30% across the board from the module.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13955 Posts
September 05 2013 01:04 GMT
#33095
I don't take a shit for less then 200m an hour.

so they made the bastion module even worse of a thing? even if people were still loling on how bad it was?

Also we can get FA to make us our cerbs. red wings delivering again. 550 rlml dps at 90m son. this time everyone gots snakes.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
September 05 2013 02:36 GMT
#33096
On September 05 2013 10:04 Sermokala wrote:
I don't take a shit for less then 200m an hour.

so they made the bastion module even worse of a thing? even if people were still loling on how bad it was?

Also we can get FA to make us our cerbs. red wings delivering again. 550 rlml dps at 90m son. this time everyone gots snakes.

Fuckin t2 resists and shit brah
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 03:05:35
September 05 2013 02:55 GMT
#33097
Shield deimos is pretty fast
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

What the fuck the full Genolution set gives you literally infinite capacitor. Cap goes from 2m 45s to what you see in the above picture.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
September 05 2013 08:32 GMT
#33098
You gotta active armor tank it. a dual rep one tanks like 1k dps easy.
Serious Business
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 13:49:11
September 05 2013 13:47 GMT
#33099
to celebrate the fact that 1.1 did not nerf infolinks I am gauging the interest in a maulus roam. Just like my inspiration Crosi Wesdo we will only be engaging people trying to honorably solo. We will need the following to engage in high skill orbit 24 afk pvp:

[ ] dedicated info links
[x] skirmish (+ siege thank you based navy mindlink)
[ ] mauli

standard fit will be:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19252594

(I have no idea whether you actually need high grade snakes to make this work. Should have scan res scripts to make them unable to lock warriors too.)
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rhiload
Profile Joined August 2013
United Kingdom34 Posts
September 05 2013 17:58 GMT
#33100
maulus roam must happen..would be so lol not anybody lock you ever.
I never asked for this.
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