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I was phrasing it in terms of "you don't need to train any additional skills apart from:" but yes, Controlled Bursts is a skill you do not need to train to get a Mach going.
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
I was phrasing it in terms of "you don't need to train any additional skills apart from:" but yes, Controlled Bursts is a skill you do not need to train to get a Mach going. | ||
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DiracMonopole
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Omigawa
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Although I guess the TE nerf affects the Angel ships the most of all the pirate ships.. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On April 21 2013 10:54 DiracMonopole wrote: I was going to joke about a laser macha, but angel ships are some of the only ships that dont do more dps at some particular with lasers than with their bonused weapon system http://i.imgur.com/fQgjU5S.png So close to not needing that stupid PDS... | ||
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On April 21 2013 10:09 DefMatrixUltra wrote: I was phrasing it in terms of "you don't need to train any additional skills apart from:" but yes, Controlled Bursts is a skill you do not need to train to get a Mach going. think he is referencing kwark's discovery that a certain person, who had a macha missioning character through ccp-approved means had decided to train controlled bursts V on the character. because who doesn't want their bursts to be controlled? | ||
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Ramiel
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Ramiel
United States1220 Posts
On April 23 2013 10:41 Impervious wrote: Did you notice the capacitor on that thing? Good luck killing anything before you run out of cap. did you notice that i have the med neut running? and web? I only plan to have those on once light tackle gets close. MWD, point, guns, its around 2:15 Heated scorch is 650 DPS Heated Multi is 780 DPS | ||
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Omigawa
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Ramiel
United States1220 Posts
On April 23 2013 11:13 Omigawa wrote: I would have thought you'd spring for the Drake Navy Issue, Chessur. Its shit. After what CCP did to HMLs it has no damage. With HAM's you can't fit anything worthwhile in the mids, (not to mention you need all of your rigs to help apply damage) and its slow. I also looked at the Nomen. While it goes 4.2k/s unheated, snaked and linked- it has no dps, and no cap. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On April 23 2013 11:26 Ramiel wrote: Its shit. After what CCP did to HMLs it has no damage. With HAM's you can't fit anything worthwhile in the mids, (not to mention you need all of your rigs to help apply damage) and its slow. I also looked at the Nomen. While it goes 4.2k/s unheated, snaked and linked- it has no dps, and no cap. The funny thing is that even if HAMs had 0 CPU and 0 grid usage, you'd still have to think hard how to use them. | ||
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eX Killy
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Omigawa
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A good (C5-C6, C6-C6) WH corp would require significantly more skills/ability to fly more ships. Beyond just flying ships, make sure to train Astrometrics V & Astro supports skills to atleast III. Astrometrics V Astrometric Acquisition III Astrometric Pinpointing III Astrometric Rangefinding III You should also practice scanning for signatures so you are at least somewhat competent. You can find videos on YouTube that show the most efficient ways to do it. Cloaking would help. The next ship you want to start training for is one of the T3 cruisers. Not positive but I believe Loki's and Tengu's are most prevalent. The reason being is with mass limits on wormholes, T3's tend to pack the most bang for your buck. EDIT: the Wormhole subforum on EVE-O has a list of reputable WH corps. Most of them have their own websites where you need to fill out an app. The app will detail the minimum skills you need before applying. In the Corp recruitment subforum there are also listings for WH corps but you have to dig around. Most of those threads will also list minimum skill reqs. Again, this is only for serious WH corps. A shitty WH corp might not have any requirements (including you being able to provide an API key), but they don't last long because people like VoV join and steal the entire corps networth 5 hours later rofl. | ||
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eX Killy
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Viceorvirtue
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Tdelamay
Canada548 Posts
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=228222 Capital rigs! Now super expensive! | ||
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Omigawa
United States1556 Posts
On April 23 2013 14:46 eX Killy wrote: thanks for the help so far, is there any specific weapon type that i should train for? lasers, missiles? etc It really depends on the circumstances. All of the T3's are competent at PVP, but to get the most out of your ship you really need to know what type of bonus the wormhole gives. The corp you're looking to apply to should have some sort of list of ships they want you to be able to fly. AFAIK the vast majority of wormholes give bonuses to either armor or shields. If the wormhole you live in gives a bonus to shields you'll want your T3 to be a shield fit, likewise if the wormhole gives bonuses to armor. If your corp PVP's in other peoples' wormhole often you're gonna want to be able to at least T2 fit a BC (preferably Attack BC, bang for buck and everything) or better in the other bonus type. Like I said, it really just depends on the circumstance. Here is a list of minimum skills Aperture Harmonics requires of applicants, for an example: http://dontshootx.com/index.php?topic=6830.msg57610#msg57610 For a better idea of what types of ships people fly in wormhole I would suggest checking out the top tier WH corp's KBs. VoC and AHARM specifically. Talk to tofu or Karah when they login, they're both in VoC and could give you better advice than I can. On April 23 2013 15:07 Viceorvirtue wrote: Speaking of wormholes I got my alt into a c3 corp. Their lowsec exit was into dudreda and they suicided a 1.8b tengu by warping it to 0 of e uni. The rest of the stuff in the sma is likely worth 1.6b or so and because of their strangely fucked up ranking system i cant access the cha at all until i get 'promoted' but can use the sma just fine. Question now is do I just take whatever is left asap or wait and try to get roles? Having no experience in this sort of situation I would have to say it depends on the amount of time you've spent in corp. If it's less than a say like a week, personally I would grab whatever isn't bolted down. | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
On April 24 2013 02:49 Tdelamay wrote: Surprise guys! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=228222 Capital rigs! Now super expensive! better get your t2 large rigs installed! | ||
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Shootemup.
United States1044 Posts
On April 23 2013 12:14 eX Killy wrote: so i got bc 5 done, im training cybernetics 5 atm and i want to try living in a worm hole, what skills should i train that i would need to get accepted to a starting wh corp. I haven't been following the latest balance changes CCP has proposed, so my advice may be outdated once the patch hits but I can tell you what most WH corps use now. For C1s to C4s, Tengus are very prevalent due to their ability to project DPS at range and tank the sites easily (the sleeper sites tend to spawn everything kind of spread out and neut a lot). These corps tend to use Drakes as a stepping stone for newer players as they can also be RR fit and engage at similar ranges to the Tengus. C5 through C6 WH corps tend to use armor (unless they live in a Pulsar obviously, but most people avoid Pulsars) for subcaps, and for caps mainly armor (although quite a lot of people like the shield fit Moros). You really can't go wrong with the Loki, as it is the only subcap used in serious Cap Escalations (the way to make the real money off of C5 and C6 sleeper sites) and is very useful in PvP as it does decent DPS, has an ok tank, and has long range webs. You also see a lot of Proteii (great damage and tank, perfect for a brawl on a WH at zero which is what most WH PvP boils down to), Guardians for obvious reasons, those weird people who like to fly Legions (basically worse than a Loki or a Proteus in all situations you would find in a WH but it can work), Bhaalgorns to neut everything, and armor HACs and BS usually flown by people who don't have the SP to fly an armor T3. If you want to go into low class WHs then a Tengu is a great option, but this will obviously vary from corp to corp. If you want to get into C5s and C6s then I would highly suggest training for the Loki, as you will be able to PvE and PvP (in WHs) very effectively with it. There are "beginner" wh corps for both lower class WHs and upper class WHs, so don't feel like you need to start off in a C3 WH corp. | ||
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