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Vipsanius
Netherlands708 Posts
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Ramiel
United States1220 Posts
On March 22 2013 04:10 KwarK wrote: 1805m/s unheated, 2616 heated. It's playable, especially with linked dual FN webs and insane tracking. Kwark my fit did have t2 meta, and the dual fed web. Stop stealing my ideas!!!! I will be able to fly the nanomare in a few months, and when I can- it will be glorious! Kwark do you want to come on a dual nanomare roam with me? | ||
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Vipsanius
Netherlands708 Posts
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On March 22 2013 05:46 artynko wrote: I was trying to fly an Omen on one of my low sp alts and am curious about how is it handling frigate sized ships once you have proper gunnery skills, because with my shitty skills (mostly at 4) and navy multifrequency, using focused medium pulse lasers, I was hitting maybe one of 10 hits. Will this get better eventually or should I rely on my drones to kill light tackle ? I was using 2 tracking mods & tracking rig. Sounds like you were a) getting orbited. or b) way too far from the target. MF with your setup only has an effective range of ~10km. Past that it won't do anything worth noting. Lasers are technically the worst guns straight up for shooting smaller targets because of their tracking penalty in comparison to the other weapons. You need to use their advantage of extreme range. With the setup you described, you have an effective damage range of ~30km with Scorch. You need to stay at that range and not much less, preferably heading either directly toward the frigate target or directly away from it - or something close to those vectors. If a frigate is orbiting you and you lose your prop mod as a result, there isn't really shit you can do as it's already too late at that point. You must rely on others to save you or for good luck with MF. Drones will kill frigates reliably but rather slowly from your perspective. I'm assuming you're shield fit since with a web these frigates should be splatted easily. | ||
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Big Monkey
United Kingdom473 Posts
On March 22 2013 06:13 Vipsanius wrote: I've applied to shield battery, if there is a subbed director that isn't playing dota, hasn't forgotten how to log in and is able to accept my app I'd appreciate it. I have sent you a eve mail about this. Sorry i missed you | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34500 Posts
On March 22 2013 06:06 Warri wrote: RA DUDE · 3 hours ago I agree with you , there terrible , they wont be about for much longer though You mean no more Verge! They were robbed of a whole 5 billion isk recently, they're really poor after that. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19189 Posts
On March 22 2013 04:07 Invol2ver wrote: http://evenews24.com/2013/03/21/verge-of-collapse-nyx-dies-at-the-hands-of-nofux-friends-27-billion-in-damages/ No more Verge super drop stories =[ a) that was rengas's personal nyx 2. I think we still have a couple, dunno though | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
This guy was so angry about his terrible decision to brawl a Vindicator that he said "I don't deserve these Slaves, kill me". Also his other 3 billion worth of hard-wirings. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
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artynko
Slovakia86 Posts
On March 22 2013 06:34 DefMatrixUltra wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 22 2013 05:46 artynko wrote: I was trying to fly an Omen on one of my low sp alts and am curious about how is it handling frigate sized ships once you have proper gunnery skills, because with my shitty skills (mostly at 4) and navy multifrequency, using focused medium pulse lasers, I was hitting maybe one of 10 hits. Will this get better eventually or should I rely on my drones to kill light tackle ? I was using 2 tracking mods & tracking rig. Sounds like you were a) getting orbited. or b) way too far from the target. MF with your setup only has an effective range of ~10km. Past that it won't do anything worth noting. Lasers are technically the worst guns straight up for shooting smaller targets because of their tracking penalty in comparison to the other weapons. You need to use their advantage of extreme range. With the setup you described, you have an effective damage range of ~30km with Scorch. You need to stay at that range and not much less, preferably heading either directly toward the frigate target or directly away from it - or something close to those vectors. If a frigate is orbiting you and you lose your prop mod as a result, there isn't really shit you can do as it's already too late at that point. You must rely on others to save you or for good luck with MF. Drones will kill frigates reliably but rather slowly from your perspective. I'm assuming you're shield fit since with a web these frigates should be splatted easily. Yes I was getting orbited at 500, I have the shield fitted nano build, I was just curious if there is a way how to handle the situation when I get caught or I am basically dead at that point. Now I know. Would something like the web drones work or is that a stupid idea ? | ||
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
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Ramiel
United States1220 Posts
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On March 22 2013 07:48 artynko wrote: Yes I was getting orbited at 500, I have the shield fitted nano build, I was just curious if there is a way how to handle the situation when I get caught or I am basically dead at that point. Now I know. Would something like the web drones work or is that a stupid idea ? Just throwing this out there to see if the more experienced TL folks think it's a valid idea, but I have seen Ceofore Aideron, on his stream, carry a flight of 5 ECM drones specifically for situations where he's tackled and just wants to get out. | ||
KwarK
United States43481 Posts
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On March 22 2013 08:43 Lysenko wrote: Just throwing this out there to see if the more experienced TL folks think it's a valid idea, but I have seen Ceofore Aideron, on his stream, carry a flight of 5 ECM drones specifically for situations where he's tackled and just wants to get out. Of course it is. In fact, it's way too fucking effective. I've seen Cynabals jam carriers with their Vespas. Also, this is surprisingly legit http://i.imgur.com/4ku2PXO.png . | ||
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419
Russian Federation3631 Posts
how is it if you drop LSE for small cap booster? You could probably drop the RCU too as a result (t2 locus would seem pretty sick with that, but that increases the price of the fit by ~50%). Anything with high enough dps+projection for the 2nd LSE to become relevant, you probably wouldn't have killed with honorpoint anyways, in my opinion. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4213 Posts
On March 21 2013 10:39 DefMatrixUltra wrote: Good points, but RVB is still by far the best corp available to new players outside of TL. That depends. Just don't ask them for fitting advice, or advice on how to fly, because most of them are very bad. There are a select few that are very good, but unless you have also proven yourself to be good, they will simply ignore you if you try to talk to them, because they get asked by a lot of people how to fly better, and it's too time consuming to answer everyone..... I used to think they were assholes for ignoring people who wanted to get better..... .....And then I started making a bit of a name for myself. I've had a number of fights where I'll go in with a frigate, kill 2 or 3 guys out of a 5-10 man gang, then force the rest to gtfo, only to have them, or others who watched the fight, convo me asking me how the fuck I did it, or accuse me of using links/snakes, or w/e. I did try to help them out, but it got really annoying after a while, and I was only really flying there for a month and a half..... I spent months learning as a tackle frigate in Hatchery roams, and then soloed in Molden Heath and then against Eve Uni before joining RvB. Without that experience (and a lot of guidance from other Hatchery members, and other really awesome pilots like Tawa), I wouldn't have gotten as much from RvB as I did. I didn't really learn anything while actually in RvB, but I did refine the skills and apply the knowledge that I already had. And got to see why some things were very bad ideas. For instance, one guy knew I was in an untanked, rail fit Atron most of the time, so he fitted up a blaster/scram fit atron with 2 nanos, and pre-heated his MWD so that the instance I tried to engage him, he could catch me, get under my guns, and kill me with ease. I had a large number of deaths to him, even though I knew that he was in a ship which perfectly counters mine, and knew how to fly it to take advantage of his strengths over mine, but I still tried to engage him to practice vs as tough of an opponent as I could (realistically, the vast majority of frigates will not be faster or more agile than my atron, so I was practicing vs a tougher opponent than I would face elsewhere). And by using pure piloting skill, we had many close fights with him (forcing him to run away and warp off, or getting him into structure just before he caught me, or w/e), even though it was a stupid fight for me to take. That kind of practice I can't really get in random roams in lowsec or nullsec, but is readily available in RvB. But you need to know what you are doing to take advantage of that. And as a new player, you won't have the knowledge or skills to do so. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On March 22 2013 09:01 419 wrote: the capacitatorrrrrrrr though! how is it if you drop LSE for small cap booster? You could probably drop the RCU too as a result. Anything with high enough dps+projection for the 2nd LSE to become relevant, you probably wouldn't have killed with honorpoint anyways, in my opinion. Capacitor is almost the same as a Zealot. Turn the guns and MWD on and off, they're very close in behavior. The fit is just me copy-pasting Zealot fit onto Omen ship. This ain't no solo vessel. On March 22 2013 09:02 Impervious wrote: That depends. Blah blah blah not as good as Hatchery. Literally the only thing it depends upon is whether there is another corp that is available to new non-TL players that is better than RVB. There isn't one. All your points about the negatives you can run into with non-TL corps is definitely true. You can just as easily explain such things without trying to imply there is a better option. | ||
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KwarK
United States43481 Posts
On March 22 2013 08:47 DefMatrixUltra wrote: Of course it is. In fact, it's way too fucking effective. I've seen Cynabals jam carriers with their Vespas. Also, this is surprisingly legit http://i.imgur.com/4ku2PXO.png . 1:19 cap? Unflyable. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4213 Posts
On March 22 2013 09:06 DefMatrixUltra wrote: Literally the only thing it depends upon is whether there is another corp that is available to new non-TL players that is better than RVB. There isn't one. All your points about the negatives you can run into with non-TL corps is definitely true. You can just as easily explain such things without trying to imply there is a better option. Agony would be my #2 choice. A RL friend of mine is in there, and he actually has some pretty legitimate game knowledge because of it. | ||
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