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On March 16 2013 19:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
There is no 'on my level'. If you know how you can be making billions of isk per day a week after you start EVE. Shield battery can show you the way. Mining is not the way.
Then again, "abusing" something without having learned the basics of something to me isn't the right way either. I'm not saying that how you do it is wrong, but i would feel like jumping a big part of the game. And with "on my level" i meant knowledge. It's a bit hard to explain what exactly i mean, it's a bit like starting with a DMR, Nightvisiongoggles and Ghilliesuit in DayZ, jumping the whole stuff that leads to it (and learning gamemechanics from scratch while doing it).
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On March 16 2013 19:15 eX Killy wrote:
faction warfare gets you way more isk/hour than mining. you can solo (im pretty sure it's impossible for you to solo incursions), and doing them (you can do this after 1 or 2 days) will net you over 60mil isk/hour.
play fw, make money, train skills, pimp out your pve ship, get ganked.
Are these things mutually exclusive? PvP and playing faction warfare?
Btw, on my "skilllevel" i get ganked no matter what i fly, as i said, do not compare a 4 day old player with someone who's playing for years. ^^
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On March 16 2013 19:17 m4inbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 19:15 eX Killy wrote:
faction warfare gets you way more isk/hour than mining. you can solo (im pretty sure it's impossible for you to solo incursions), and doing them (you can do this after 1 or 2 days) will net you over 60mil isk/hour.
play fw, make money, train skills, pimp out your pve ship, get ganked. Are these things mutually exclusive? PvP and playing faction warfare? Btw, on my "skilllevel" i get ganked no matter what i fly, as i said, do not compare a 4 day old player with someone who's playing for years. ^^
fw is pretty much pvp. you can only play fw in lowsec and in lowsec there's no empire protection, and you can get killed even in highsec (rare) so pretty much everyone that is orange or neutral will be on your ass in lowsec.
i started playing in the middle of January this year. i've lost 25 ships in the first 30 days (when I didnt know shit), since then i've lost ~ 5 frigates afking (dont afk while playing fw). even now i cant win ANY fights, i can only run when someone shows up on scan. they will kill you 100% of the time because they have more sp and better ships (usually pirate frig). but you still make a lot of money and learn the basics
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Hm.. I might try that later (after, again, i read up a bit on that^^). So many parts of the game still unexplored for me. -.-
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there's a lot to learn for sure, but making the best money possible will help when you do decide to fly expensive ships for whatever it is that you eventually decide to do.
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You've got a point there.
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
On March 16 2013 19:16 m4inbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 19:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
There is no 'on my level'. If you know how you can be making billions of isk per day a week after you start EVE. Shield battery can show you the way. Mining is not the way. Then again, "abusing" something without having learned the basics of something to me isn't the right way either. I'm not saying that how you do it is wrong, but i would feel like jumping a big part of the game. And with "on my level" i meant knowledge. It's a bit hard to explain what exactly i mean, it's a bit like starting with a DMR, Nightvisiongoggles and Ghilliesuit in DayZ, jumping the whole stuff that leads to it (and learning gamemechanics from scratch while doing it).
Mining is a 'basic' of the game that no one ever needs to go near.
As long as you learn the basics of PvP combat well, you are set for the rest of the game. Everything else like missioning, faction warfare, exploration etc will all come naturally to you.
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On March 16 2013 20:20 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 19:16 m4inbrain wrote:On March 16 2013 19:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
There is no 'on my level'. If you know how you can be making billions of isk per day a week after you start EVE. Shield battery can show you the way. Mining is not the way. Then again, "abusing" something without having learned the basics of something to me isn't the right way either. I'm not saying that how you do it is wrong, but i would feel like jumping a big part of the game. And with "on my level" i meant knowledge. It's a bit hard to explain what exactly i mean, it's a bit like starting with a DMR, Nightvisiongoggles and Ghilliesuit in DayZ, jumping the whole stuff that leads to it (and learning gamemechanics from scratch while doing it). Mining is a 'basic' of the game that no one ever needs to go near. As long as you learn the basics of PvP combat well, you are set for the rest of the game. Everything else like missioning, faction warfare, exploration etc will all come naturally to you.
I did not even touch PvP so far, except maybe reading up a bit on tackling. ;P
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
Unless you plan on staying away from PvP forever, you should start as early as possible to prevent learning bad habits.
Honestly, everything else is easy once you're decent at PvP.
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I actually plan on heading towards PvP, but i don't agree when someone says it's a "bad habit" to do stuff that might be fun.
Edit: nvm, on second reading, i might have misunderstood you. If so, sorry.
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Hyrule19264 Posts
On March 16 2013 12:13 Impervious wrote:https://soundcloud.com/gecko-1-1/gecko-fleet-phoon-awoxListen to that and laugh. His ship, his pride and joy, died. When I lost a ship comparable in value to that (roughly 3 billion isk), I was like "whoops, time to get another one". And I did. And proceeded to lose it. And then another one. For a total of 5 of them. I shrugged it off, and still laugh at it. Hatchery imba.
"all x type" (lists things that go to a-type)
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United States44398 Posts
On March 16 2013 21:13 m4inbrain wrote:
I actually plan on heading towards PvP, but i don't agree when someone says it's a "bad habit" to do stuff that might be fun.
Edit: nvm, on second reading, i might have misunderstood you. If so, sorry.
The problem is that PvP is so unintuitive and every corp in eve not The Hatchery are so bad at it that trying to teach yourself or learn from any other corp will make you worse at the game than not logging in.
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Russian Federation3632 Posts
it seems like he is exaggerating, but speaking as a proud graduate of MINC pvp school he's entirely correct
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United States44398 Posts
Secured the sale of Gal Axian for 33, bought for 14. That ought to get me liquid again.
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On March 17 2013 01:25 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 21:13 m4inbrain wrote:
I actually plan on heading towards PvP, but i don't agree when someone says it's a "bad habit" to do stuff that might be fun.
Edit: nvm, on second reading, i might have misunderstood you. If so, sorry. The problem is that PvP is so unintuitive and every corp in eve not The Hatchery are so bad at it that trying to teach yourself or learn from any other corp will make you worse at the game than not logging in.
Well, since i tried the last four days to find a recruiter for SB with no luck, with people telling me that SB will disband/go inactive, i guess i have to stay shitty at PvP then. :/
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
Join Eve university, they have some pretty good pvpers.
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On March 17 2013 01:55 Firebolt145 wrote:
Join Eve university, they have some pretty good pvpers.
I actually think thats the last place i will ever end up in, but "thanks" for the tip. ^^
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United States44398 Posts
I'm in EVE uni. I hear EVE uni has been massacring goons in their home system.
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On March 17 2013 02:18 KwarK wrote:
I'm in EVE uni. I hear EVE uni has been massacring goons in their home system.
Everything i read so far about Eve Uni tells me to stay away from them. I don't think that their kind of "massive warfare" is for me, i actually like thinking for myself, and that seems something discouraged by Eve Uni.
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