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Big Monkey
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom473 Posts
November 26 2012 21:30 GMT
#26661
On November 27 2012 06:19 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 06:17 NathanEO wrote:
http://jestertrek.blogspot.de/2012/11/malice-toward-none.html


So when I see Damnation-Oracle-Oracle-Oneiros-Malice-Malice-Malice-Keres, the first thing I do is start adding up DPS. Armor Oracles put out around 500 effective DPS each. So I immediately jumped to the conclusion that the Malices must be providing DPS as well since you're certainly not going to get any out of a Damnation, Oneiros, or Keres!


*sigh*

Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.
He didn't even EFT the Oracle fit.
I suck at Eve biiig time, am unsubbed on 2/3 accs but Jester is an idiot. Even I can see that.

SIGH!
You can't fit an oracle with 500 dps without going into medium autocannons.


Or only fit 4 guns
I smell revival, dead bones coming alive again
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
November 26 2012 21:36 GMT
#26662
On November 27 2012 06:30 Big Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 06:19 KwarK wrote:
On November 27 2012 06:17 NathanEO wrote:
http://jestertrek.blogspot.de/2012/11/malice-toward-none.html


So when I see Damnation-Oracle-Oracle-Oneiros-Malice-Malice-Malice-Keres, the first thing I do is start adding up DPS. Armor Oracles put out around 500 effective DPS each. So I immediately jumped to the conclusion that the Malices must be providing DPS as well since you're certainly not going to get any out of a Damnation, Oneiros, or Keres!


*sigh*

Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.
He didn't even EFT the Oracle fit.
I suck at Eve biiig time, am unsubbed on 2/3 accs but Jester is an idiot. Even I can see that.

SIGH!
You can't fit an oracle with 500 dps without going into medium autocannons.


Or only fit 4 guns


You can fit more than 4? :o
tooDARKpark
Profile Joined June 2011
United States149 Posts
November 26 2012 21:44 GMT
#26663
On November 27 2012 06:36 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 06:30 Big Monkey wrote:
On November 27 2012 06:19 KwarK wrote:
On November 27 2012 06:17 NathanEO wrote:
http://jestertrek.blogspot.de/2012/11/malice-toward-none.html


So when I see Damnation-Oracle-Oracle-Oneiros-Malice-Malice-Malice-Keres, the first thing I do is start adding up DPS. Armor Oracles put out around 500 effective DPS each. So I immediately jumped to the conclusion that the Malices must be providing DPS as well since you're certainly not going to get any out of a Damnation, Oneiros, or Keres!


*sigh*

Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.
He didn't even EFT the Oracle fit.
I suck at Eve biiig time, am unsubbed on 2/3 accs but Jester is an idiot. Even I can see that.

SIGH!
You can't fit an oracle with 500 dps without going into medium autocannons.


Or only fit 4 guns


You can fit more than 4? :o


Should work, as long as they aren't dread guns.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
November 26 2012 21:45 GMT
#26664
On November 27 2012 06:44 tooDARKpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 06:36 kollin wrote:
On November 27 2012 06:30 Big Monkey wrote:
On November 27 2012 06:19 KwarK wrote:
On November 27 2012 06:17 NathanEO wrote:
http://jestertrek.blogspot.de/2012/11/malice-toward-none.html


So when I see Damnation-Oracle-Oracle-Oneiros-Malice-Malice-Malice-Keres, the first thing I do is start adding up DPS. Armor Oracles put out around 500 effective DPS each. So I immediately jumped to the conclusion that the Malices must be providing DPS as well since you're certainly not going to get any out of a Damnation, Oneiros, or Keres!


*sigh*

Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.
He didn't even EFT the Oracle fit.
I suck at Eve biiig time, am unsubbed on 2/3 accs but Jester is an idiot. Even I can see that.

SIGH!
You can't fit an oracle with 500 dps without going into medium autocannons.


Or only fit 4 guns


You can fit more than 4? :o


Should work, as long as they aren't dread guns.


Oh now I see the mistake I've been making! I'll be sure to just fit medium auto cannons now!
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
November 26 2012 21:59 GMT
#26665
You guys fielded medium autocannon oracles? No wonder you lost.
Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 22:15:22
November 26 2012 22:13 GMT
#26666
Oracle using Navy multi frequency at max skills has around 550 dps.
That`s if there`s no heat sinks.

Anyway, how much dps were you guys capable of dishing out overall?
This road isn't leading anywhere...
elvisp
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden5 Posts
November 26 2012 22:18 GMT
#26667
Hey guys, could you answer some questions I have about faction warfare? I used to do exploration in Gurista space before, but I'm tired of it and would like to try something new for income. I have read about the changes that was made to FW, and it's not as profitable as it was before, but apparently you can still make good money out of it. Currently, I have started doing some FW missions for Caldari state, and now I have access to level 3 agents, but I stopped when realizing this would hurt my standing against the opponent faction, Gallente. I don't think I want to hurt my standings below -5 against any faction and be shot in their space, but I guess that it's hard to avoid if doing FW. How do you guys deal with this? Do you use alts where bad standings against a certain faction isn't a big deal, or do you not care about it? Also, are there any reasons to choose a particular faction other than current war zone control and RP reasons? I read that some faction has harder rats than the others, think it was Amarr, but other than that I don't know any reasons. I chose Caldari at the beginning because I wanted to have access to Jita, but maybe I should switch to Minmatar, they seem to be very popular in FW for reasons I don't know.

I'm sorry if I ask too many question, I don't want to be too lazy finding answers, but it would really be nice if you could help me out a little. BTW, I saw your last played match in the tournament, it's sad what happened, but the worst mistakes happens to the best of us(cheesy line). Hope you win next match!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
November 26 2012 22:21 GMT
#26668
Make alts.
Moderator
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44402 Posts
November 26 2012 23:08 GMT
#26669
On November 27 2012 07:13 Tdelamay wrote:
Oracle using Navy multi frequency at max skills has around 550 dps.
That`s if there`s no heat sinks.

Anyway, how much dps were you guys capable of dishing out overall?

Heated conflag at 1300 per ora.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 23:13:24
November 26 2012 23:13 GMT
#26670
Who cares about blogs anyway. Like 5 people read those. Unless youre themittani or evenews24 chances are your audience is only yourself and the guy/corp youre writing about. As seen by the lack of comments on his blogs.
Butcherski
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland446 Posts
November 27 2012 09:36 GMT
#26671
So me and my buddy want to start playing this game but we have a few questions :

Do we need to pay any real money to play ?

Do you have any perspective to make real money when you are starting from scratch ?

Im reading alot about this game atm so ill probably post some questions later.
"Well Tasteless, i once met a three-toed sloth with good marauder control " - Artosis
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
November 27 2012 09:48 GMT
#26672
On November 27 2012 18:36 Butcherski wrote:
So me and my buddy want to start playing this game but we have a few questions :

Do we need to pay any real money to play ?

Do you have any perspective to make real money when you are starting from scratch ?

Im reading alot about this game atm so ill probably post some questions later.


You can do a trial for 14 days for free, then you have to pay. If you're very successful in-game you can spend big chunks of in-game cash to buy more account time instead of spending money.

The game has quite a learning curve so you probably won't be making a lot of isk (the in-game currency) at first.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
November 27 2012 10:48 GMT
#26673
On November 27 2012 18:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 18:36 Butcherski wrote:
So me and my buddy want to start playing this game but we have a few questions :

Do we need to pay any real money to play ?

Do you have any perspective to make real money when you are starting from scratch ?

Im reading alot about this game atm so ill probably post some questions later.


You can do a trial for 14 days for free, then you have to pay. If you're very successful in-game you can spend big chunks of in-game cash to buy more account time instead of spending money.

The game has quite a learning curve so you probably won't be making a lot of isk (the in-game currency) at first.

The trial is 21 days if someone sends you an invite. 'Very successful' is a funny thing, most of hatchery can easily make the required isk in a heartbeat. Unfortunately I haven't played in a while and don't really know the most efficient way of making isk right now so I can't actually get you number, but it is actually very easy to pay for your subscription with the ingame currency.

And yes the game has a massive learning curve, but that's why you sign up with us. We can make that learning curve much easier as well as directly tell you the quickest way to make isk etc.
Moderator
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
November 27 2012 10:53 GMT
#26674
Yeah the players on TL are all very wealthy/successful. Kwark stuffs his mattress with money, etc. If you want to pay for your account with just in-game money, you could probably do so right off the bat within 3 weeks if you get help and join hatchery. There are very inefficient and very efficient ways to play.

The typical player though is gonna be paying a subscription fee.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
November 27 2012 11:05 GMT
#26675
Well since he's on these forums, I would assume he's joining Hatchery, and thus would not be a 'typical player' any more
Moderator
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
November 27 2012 11:12 GMT
#26676
I would eventually want to join the hatchery corp. I started with a group of friends who are good at the game but not very organized IE not in a corp or anything, Im still on my friends 21 day trial, if I stick with this game over winter break I guess I'll do the application process for the hatchery. Im a bit apprehensive though, can I join hatchery without being on the TL teamspeak all the time? Im usually on my own teamspeak with said friends and I'd prefer not to fully ditch them if I join the hatchery.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
November 27 2012 11:18 GMT
#26677
On November 27 2012 20:12 Digitalis wrote:
I would eventually want to join the hatchery corp. I started with a group of friends who are good at the game but not very organized IE not in a corp or anything, Im still on my friends 21 day trial, if I stick with this game over winter break I guess I'll do the application process for the hatchery. Im a bit apprehensive though, can I join hatchery without being on the TL teamspeak all the time? Im usually on my own teamspeak with said friends and I'd prefer not to fully ditch them if I join the hatchery.

In Hatchery you are absolutely free to do whatever you want. We have no chain of command, you can do whatever you want wherever you want whenever you want. We strongly encourage people hang out on our teamspeak if they actually want to get involved with us (why else would you join Hatchery?) but that doesn't mean you can't spend the rest of your time doing stuff with your friends.

Application process is also pretty simple.
Moderator
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 11:19:01
November 27 2012 11:18 GMT
#26678
I don't play eve extensively but in any MMO or really any team game you're going to want to be in voice communication with your teammates any time you do anything. Obviously you don't always need to be in there but operating as a fleet without voice communication sounds hard.

Really though I don't know what I'm talking about so don't listen to me.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
November 27 2012 11:19 GMT
#26679
Yes, when you're flying in a fleet with us, that's when you 100% have to be on TS with us. The rest of your time is spent however you want to spend it, and you don't need to come on TS if you don't want to.
Moderator
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
November 27 2012 12:53 GMT
#26680
I'll be a bit late for the thing at the place at the time tonight, if you know what I mean.
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