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Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 03:13:06
July 17 2012 02:57 GMT
#23861
Seriously how many of us in hatchery actually play eve anymore and how many of us just sit back and carebear


People still play eve? I'm just waiting for gw2

Actually RvB has been fun enough to pass the time after being bored to death in null.
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
July 17 2012 03:12 GMT
#23862
Nah we just post in this thread for fun
Serious Business
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
July 17 2012 03:34 GMT
#23863
On July 17 2012 10:51 Duskbane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 10:17 KwarK wrote:
Drone navigation fucks the tracking of scout drones too.

On an unrelated note, I made 32b doing basic PvE that anyone can do in about 8 hours of actual bearing. :CCP:


The drones eventually cycle down their MWDs once they reach the target, so the tracking is only fucked over for a short time.


Not if the frig has a prop mod on, since the drones keep pulsing their mwd then
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
July 17 2012 04:44 GMT
#23864
So I'm flying my arty thrasher and trying to kick the beehive in Aldrat earlier today, and they decide to come at me in force. I'm like "fuck that, I'm gonna go see if there's any action somewhere else".

I land on the Eygfe gate in Aldrat, and there is an interceptor and a thrasher on gate. I jump through and am met with the exact same combo on the other side of the gate. I start burning hard away from the gate in a "come at me bro" fashion, and they follow.

The first inty, the malediction, points me and starts trying to orbit me at range. By the time he realizes that it was a bad idea and tries to get out of my point range, his buddies are like 70-80k away from me. I start burning at him to make sure I get him, and I do.

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14026312

Now the 2nd inty has caught up with me. He's got a neut on him. Wtf? Also, unlike his predecessor, he decides to orbit me as close as he can. At that close, I can't hit him properly, so I keep changing my align to screw up his orbits, and start landing some decent hits on him. Since I can't keep both my mwd and my point on without totally screwing my cap, I decide to shut off my point temporarily, and in this period of time, he warps off.

The two thrashers have about 20k distance between eachother, so I go after the closest one. I finally have to start using some of my cap boosters to withstand it's dps (I use 5 of my boosters here), but he pops quickly.

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14026310

At this point, I notice that the other thrasher, who is all alone at this point, can lock me up outside of my own lock range. Instantly, I know that since he's got a mwd, and likely a point, plus a sebo to be able to lock at that range, he must have next to no tank, so my 5 remaining cap boosters will easily allow me to tank him while I kill him. I'm basically out of ammo in my guns though, so I click "reload" while heading close enough to get a point on him.

I get the point, but then realize that I can't use my shield booster. I fucking clicked "reload all". -_-

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14026309

If I did a few things better, I could have killed all 4 of them. I made some mistakes, and I know exactly what I can do next time to not fuck up like I did. This is my first real nano-style fighting experience in eve where I wasn't in a rifter, and, holy shit was this fight a lot of fun.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Big Monkey
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom473 Posts
July 17 2012 05:13 GMT
#23865
New account made.....im going to give is fw whoring a go and be like everyone else. I want to be rich too :p
I smell revival, dead bones coming alive again
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 08:54:25
July 17 2012 08:53 GMT
#23866
On July 17 2012 09:54 Salivanth wrote:
Wow. Are there any other skills in EVE where training it makes your character objectively WORSE than it would be if you didn't train anything at all? I always figured that the worst skills in EVE were just ones you would never use, making them cost SP for 0 return. Never thought you could get a negative return from training a skill.


You could argue that the afterburner duration increase is bad if you fly dual props a lot. Also lol fw isk, many a titan has been funded from there. Even before the changes you could easily rack millions of LP daily... and there were times when the LP/isk was over 4k.. Well, at least for caldari militia it was, would not be surpised if others had similar or even better ratios
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 17 2012 11:24 GMT
#23867
Just bought a condor for 200m isk because someone came up and started talking to me and I had to go loot something quick. Whelp.
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
July 17 2012 13:57 GMT
#23868
On July 17 2012 07:48 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:37 Mysticus wrote:
I play dota

join us then, karah ueber skibat and i play rather often


I usually play at night EST (8pm-whenever)

guys can add me on Steam:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/myst1cus
tooDARKpark
Profile Joined June 2011
United States149 Posts
July 17 2012 21:49 GMT
#23869
On July 17 2012 07:17 Johnny Business wrote:
I play Day z.


I too play DayZ. Come to US74 and have Molden Heath justice served 7.62mm at a time!
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
July 17 2012 21:52 GMT
#23870
On July 18 2012 06:49 tooDARKpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 07:17 Johnny Business wrote:
I play Day z.


I too play DayZ. Come to US74 and have Molden Heath justice served 7.62mm at a time!


We already raided your tent camp dirty gunpointeers!
Serious Business
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
July 17 2012 23:29 GMT
#23871
haha nice :D
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
July 18 2012 01:03 GMT
#23872
Again, fitting more nanos to your ship = lesser risks. Doesn't really matter what ship it is on. As long it have tons of nano modules on the ship then it will be much easier to control range and not die that fast.
-NightmareX

And the thread is still going strong, wtf
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
July 18 2012 01:10 GMT
#23873
On July 18 2012 10:03 Mandini wrote:
Show nested quote +
Again, fitting more nanos to your ship = lesser risks. Doesn't really matter what ship it is on. As long it have tons of nano modules on the ship then it will be much easier to control range and not die that fast.
-NightmareX

And the thread is still going strong, wtf

worst part is that the ship he was referencing had no nano mods on it...
?
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 01:49:27
July 18 2012 01:45 GMT
#23874
Just had some of the lowsec locals shoot my Proteus in a Mega, Harb, Proteus, and two onerios. They gave up and let me go. Yay dual rep Proteus!

+ Show Spoiler [Mandini's reaction to the events] +

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So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 03:37:07
July 18 2012 03:34 GMT
#23875
How is FW both extremely profitable and extremely easy? I would think that, especially in a game like EVE, if you could make craploads of money doing something anyone could do, one of two things would happen:

A) So many people would start doing it that LP prices would go down as supply increases. As LP prices go down, it becomes less ridiculously profitable, until it reaches an equilibrium.

B) Unless someone is extremely rich, they won't buy LP and will just farm the LP themselves. LP prices go down as demand increases, until the opportunity cost of farming LP becomes high enough that people start buying it again, and it reaches an equilibrium.

Am I missing something here? Is FW something that most people don't know about? If it's well-known, super-profitable, and super-easy, it seems to go counter to common-sense economics that it will stay that way, but I'm 99.9% sure FW is nothing new, unless they changed something.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
July 18 2012 03:52 GMT
#23876
you are expecting that eve players are rational actors

as the west & grey incident demonstrates, this is a really flawed assumption
?
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
July 18 2012 04:32 GMT
#23877
Well, not ALL EVE players, but I assumed some amount of them were sufficiently rational to make that happen. (After all, humans are not rational actors, but enough of us act sufficiently rational to make said equilibrium happen in real life.) Guess I was wrong.

Still, that means a strong ISK fountain for anyone with the knowledge and motivation to go after it, so I'm not complaining.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
July 18 2012 04:40 GMT
#23878
On July 18 2012 12:52 419 wrote:
you are expecting that eve players are rational actors

as the west & grey incident demonstrates, this is a really flawed assumption


You have it backwards. Actually the west and grey incident supports the idea that Eve players are rational people, albeit the mass majority are uninformed. They saw the faction item they wanted on page one/didn't bother changing settings from default/ didn't bother checking the 2nd page, and bought the cheapest item. Seems like act of rationality to me.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
July 18 2012 11:01 GMT
#23879
replace 'irrational' with 'propensity for making suboptimal decisions' then
?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43737 Posts
July 18 2012 11:43 GMT
#23880
On July 18 2012 12:34 Salivanth wrote:
How is FW both extremely profitable and extremely easy? I would think that, especially in a game like EVE, if you could make craploads of money doing something anyone could do, one of two things would happen:

A) So many people would start doing it that LP prices would go down as supply increases. As LP prices go down, it becomes less ridiculously profitable, until it reaches an equilibrium.

B) Unless someone is extremely rich, they won't buy LP and will just farm the LP themselves. LP prices go down as demand increases, until the opportunity cost of farming LP becomes high enough that people start buying it again, and it reaches an equilibrium.

Am I missing something here? Is FW something that most people don't know about? If it's well-known, super-profitable, and super-easy, it seems to go counter to common-sense economics that it will stay that way, but I'm 99.9% sure FW is nothing new, unless they changed something.

All eve players assume that they have nothing to learn and that they're doing it right in all contexts. The lack of a 1v1 matchmaking system and rankings means that they have no real feedback regarding how well they're doing. This is why discussing eve with anyone not in the hatchery is frustrating, they're so uninformed that they don't even have the ground knowledge to understand how clueless they are. The sandbox lets everyone do what they like without handing out gold stars or slaps, the strange kid sitting in the corner eating the sand doesn't know that you're meant to make castles with it.
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