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Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
April 24 2012 06:39 GMT
#21541
On April 24 2012 13:02 Mandini wrote:
[image loading]
4 mag sites in ec- plus some others, all done within a few hours tonight.
Screw lowsec combats, im sticking to this stuff.


i did one 4/10 yesterday and got a-type invuln and c-type mwd. took 5 minutes

A bit under 1b after selling.
I got honor. - Johnny Business
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43861 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 07:14:14
April 24 2012 07:03 GMT
#21542
Had a rifter pilot ragequit the corp on my OP yesterday. When told to warp to gate he warps to gate then starts mwding off because a bomber decloaks. When I tell the fleet to jump through he goes "I can't because I'm not on the gate, the order was wrong" when the last order I gave was to warp to the gate at 0 and I'd said nothing since then. We subsequently explained to the guy that not only should he not be randomly doing crap when he's been told to be on gate at 0 (we needed him to tackle someone on the other side and therefore be able to jump when I said jump) but also turning your mwd on against a single bomber is doing the one thing that allows him to do anything more than scratch your shields.
He then does the exact same thing again when another bomber decloaks, just minutes after the previous "never mwd against a bomber" speech triggering yet another "just sit there and fucking follow orders, wtf is wrong with you, take your hands off the keyboard" speech.
In the fight fight he charges in by himself to scram a pod and hold it for like 20 seconds in the middle of the enemy fleet when we're all nanoing out. Again, against orders.
He insisted on narrating his random actions that he wasn't told to do in retarded ways like instead of just saying "hey guys, I'm the new rifter pilot, I'm retarded so I'm gonna randomly jump this gate you told me to be on because I saw a bomber" he goes "friendly gateacc" which does nothing but lead to a string of questions like
"?????"
"why is a friendly randomly jumping through the gate I told you guys to hold on?"
"who is it?"
"why is it the same fucking rifter pilot I've already spoken to and explained, in very, very clear terms to stop fucking doing this?"
"do you not understand what it means when everyone tells you a single bomb will not hurt your rifter?"
"what part of "STOP FUCKING DOING THINGS, JUST TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF THE KEYBOARD AND WAIT FOR ME TO MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS FOR YOU" did you interpret as "good job, keep doing whatever seems smart to you at the time, your decision making so far tonight has been unquestioned"?????"

I mean jeez, when you keep fucking up by doing things you've not been told to do and your FC has explicitly instructed you to be where you've been told to be and to take your hands off the keyboard until further orders why would you think it's okay to start randomly jumping gates as long as you say "friendly gateacc"? In what kind of retarded fleet would "friendly gateacc" be an acceptable report on the situation and why you felt it was necessary to disobey orders and failjump? When you're sitting right next to the FC and he can see everything you can see and he's told you he will make all the decisions for you and he's not told you to do anything and been very clear about how you need to stop trying to make your own decisions because you're mentally incapable of doing so why would you possibly feel that the words "friendly gateacc" begin to explain why you're jumping a gate to escape the same fucking harmless bomber?

At some point later that night a bomber decloaked and he turned his mwd on and died. He was our only scram rifter in the fleet. He'd been playing eve for 6 years on and off and had like 50m SP. Non Hatchery life I guess.
His excuse was "I was worried I couldn't align fast enough (shield rifter, 2x nano, skirmish links) so I turned my mwd on so I could be on you". When I bollocked him for this his conclusion was that he should leave Hatchery, perhaps to find somewhere where his particular brand of decision making would be welcome. It's strange to me that someone can play eve for that many years, be worse at flying a rifter than someone who has never played eve before, finally find a group who show him how much more he could be and then leave it. You'd have to be really, really fucking retarded to spend a few hours wasting the time of a very charitable group of people as they explained to you how your decisions were really, really bad over and over and then conclude at the end of it that what you were doing in the years before was better. The years in which he'd somehow accrued a negative level of skill at the game. But there again it's just one more stupid decision at the end of a string of incredibly stupid decisions that made up the entire night for him, shouldn't be surprised.

Still, you try to be nice to people and offer to save them from their stupidity and they never thank you.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
April 24 2012 07:13 GMT
#21543
thank you kwark for showing me the way. now i'm at peace.
I got honor. - Johnny Business
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
April 24 2012 07:27 GMT
#21544
fml, I find myself finally liking kwark. =(
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
April 24 2012 07:29 GMT
#21545
the rifter morale is strong

gf
?
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
April 24 2012 08:06 GMT
#21546
On April 24 2012 15:39 Ueberlisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 13:02 Mandini wrote:
[image loading]
4 mag sites in ec- plus some others, all done within a few hours tonight.
Screw lowsec combats, im sticking to this stuff.


i did one 4/10 yesterday and got a-type invuln and c-type mwd. took 5 minutes

Show nested quote +
A bit under 1b after selling.

Yes, but the mag sites drop this kind of thing all the time, and the 4/10s never drop anything for me, I'll take steady income over "Holy crap after 2 weeks of combat sites I finally got a c-type invuln :O"
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
April 24 2012 08:17 GMT
#21547
On April 24 2012 17:06 Mandini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 15:39 Ueberlisk wrote:
On April 24 2012 13:02 Mandini wrote:
[image loading]
4 mag sites in ec- plus some others, all done within a few hours tonight.
Screw lowsec combats, im sticking to this stuff.


i did one 4/10 yesterday and got a-type invuln and c-type mwd. took 5 minutes

A bit under 1b after selling.

Yes, but the mag sites drop this kind of thing all the time, and the 4/10s never drop anything for me, I'll take steady income over "Holy crap after 2 weeks of combat sites I finally got a c-type invuln :O"


what you say is true.
I got honor. - Johnny Business
DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
April 24 2012 08:32 GMT
#21548
U want my hero rifter back?
Die tomorrow - Live today
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
April 24 2012 09:44 GMT
#21549
On April 24 2012 17:17 Ueberlisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 17:06 Mandini wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:39 Ueberlisk wrote:
On April 24 2012 13:02 Mandini wrote:
[image loading]
4 mag sites in ec- plus some others, all done within a few hours tonight.
Screw lowsec combats, im sticking to this stuff.


i did one 4/10 yesterday and got a-type invuln and c-type mwd. took 5 minutes

A bit under 1b after selling.

Yes, but the mag sites drop this kind of thing all the time, and the 4/10s never drop anything for me, I'll take steady income over "Holy crap after 2 weeks of combat sites I finally got a c-type invuln :O"


what you say is true.

except for ueber.
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
April 24 2012 10:05 GMT
#21550
On April 24 2012 16:03 KwarK wrote:
Had a rifter pilot ragequit the corp on my OP yesterday. When told to warp to gate he warps to gate then starts mwding off because a bomber decloaks. When I tell the fleet to jump through he goes "I can't because I'm not on the gate, the order was wrong" when the last order I gave was to warp to the gate at 0 and I'd said nothing since then. We subsequently explained to the guy that not only should he not be randomly doing crap when he's been told to be on gate at 0 (we needed him to tackle someone on the other side and therefore be able to jump when I said jump) but also turning your mwd on against a single bomber is doing the one thing that allows him to do anything more than scratch your shields.
He then does the exact same thing again when another bomber decloaks, just minutes after the previous "never mwd against a bomber" speech triggering yet another "just sit there and fucking follow orders, wtf is wrong with you, take your hands off the keyboard" speech.
In the fight fight he charges in by himself to scram a pod and hold it for like 20 seconds in the middle of the enemy fleet when we're all nanoing out. Again, against orders.
He insisted on narrating his random actions that he wasn't told to do in retarded ways like instead of just saying "hey guys, I'm the new rifter pilot, I'm retarded so I'm gonna randomly jump this gate you told me to be on because I saw a bomber" he goes "friendly gateacc" which does nothing but lead to a string of questions like
"?????"
"why is a friendly randomly jumping through the gate I told you guys to hold on?"
"who is it?"
"why is it the same fucking rifter pilot I've already spoken to and explained, in very, very clear terms to stop fucking doing this?"
"do you not understand what it means when everyone tells you a single bomb will not hurt your rifter?"
"what part of "STOP FUCKING DOING THINGS, JUST TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF THE KEYBOARD AND WAIT FOR ME TO MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS FOR YOU" did you interpret as "good job, keep doing whatever seems smart to you at the time, your decision making so far tonight has been unquestioned"?????"

I mean jeez, when you keep fucking up by doing things you've not been told to do and your FC has explicitly instructed you to be where you've been told to be and to take your hands off the keyboard until further orders why would you think it's okay to start randomly jumping gates as long as you say "friendly gateacc"? In what kind of retarded fleet would "friendly gateacc" be an acceptable report on the situation and why you felt it was necessary to disobey orders and failjump? When you're sitting right next to the FC and he can see everything you can see and he's told you he will make all the decisions for you and he's not told you to do anything and been very clear about how you need to stop trying to make your own decisions because you're mentally incapable of doing so why would you possibly feel that the words "friendly gateacc" begin to explain why you're jumping a gate to escape the same fucking harmless bomber?

At some point later that night a bomber decloaked and he turned his mwd on and died. He was our only scram rifter in the fleet. He'd been playing eve for 6 years on and off and had like 50m SP. Non Hatchery life I guess.
His excuse was "I was worried I couldn't align fast enough (shield rifter, 2x nano, skirmish links) so I turned my mwd on so I could be on you". When I bollocked him for this his conclusion was that he should leave Hatchery, perhaps to find somewhere where his particular brand of decision making would be welcome. It's strange to me that someone can play eve for that many years, be worse at flying a rifter than someone who has never played eve before, finally find a group who show him how much more he could be and then leave it. You'd have to be really, really fucking retarded to spend a few hours wasting the time of a very charitable group of people as they explained to you how your decisions were really, really bad over and over and then conclude at the end of it that what you were doing in the years before was better. The years in which he'd somehow accrued a negative level of skill at the game. But there again it's just one more stupid decision at the end of a string of incredibly stupid decisions that made up the entire night for him, shouldn't be surprised.

Still, you try to be nice to people and offer to save them from their stupidity and they never thank you.



late night crew loses another =(

I mean now when im semi afk in the wee hours of america, all I have left is aeth to ignore on teamspeak.
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 11:51:52
April 24 2012 11:51 GMT
#21551
It's pretty common knowledge in EVE even if your FC is a moron you are to obey that moron's orders. You are always free to fuck off out of the OP, but if you are in someone's fleet and they are FC you listen. Even if it gets you incredibly horribly killed.

Edit: I mean even pubbie faction warfare bads know this.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
April 24 2012 13:20 GMT
#21552
On April 24 2012 20:51 Mysticus wrote:
It's pretty common knowledge in EVE even if your FC is a moron you are to obey that moron's orders. You are always free to fuck off out of the OP, but if you are in someone's fleet and they are FC you listen. Even if it gets you incredibly horribly killed.

Edit: I mean even pubbie faction warfare bads know this.


I've FC'd faction warfare fleets, about 2 years ago. They know it, but getting them to do it at the time was like herding kittens. The number of fail jumps, missed points, lost opportunities... ugh.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
April 24 2012 13:32 GMT
#21553
>Put all my stacks of faction items on the market
>3 minutes pass
>got undercut by 300k on gyros
>i hate market
>i hate ccp.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
April 24 2012 13:53 GMT
#21554
On April 24 2012 22:32 Warri wrote:
>Put all my stacks of faction items on the market
>3 minutes pass
>got undercut by 300k on gyros
>i hate market
>i hate ccp.


''yeah but some of our terribly retarded players had trouble understanding how contracts worked''

Officially going out of business, faction items on the market sucks so much its incredible
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 24 2012 14:05 GMT
#21555
The reason why the contract system existed in the first place was because of the dangers of market manipulation. So obviously it's time to start manipulating the faction market.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
April 24 2012 14:10 GMT
#21556
On April 24 2012 22:53 TurpinOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 22:32 Warri wrote:
>Put all my stacks of faction items on the market
>3 minutes pass
>got undercut by 300k on gyros
>i hate market
>i hate ccp.


''yeah but some of our terribly retarded players had trouble understanding how contracts worked''

Officially going out of business, faction items on the market sucks so much its incredible


i like how, even tho i have my isk making spread around 4 different areas CCP manages to go in hard on 3 of them. 2 of them weren't even fucking broken ffs
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
April 24 2012 14:44 GMT
#21557
le sigh. Skermished linked rapier on the gate... with only 7 in local = dead tengu. I had no chance to escape, and when i saw the rapier decloak 56K from me... I was like lol burn the other direction, all is well. But no all is not well. Long webs are loooooooooong. http://kespa.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13162137 I am sad
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43861 Posts
April 24 2012 15:23 GMT
#21558
On April 24 2012 23:44 Ramiel wrote:
le sigh. Skermished linked rapier on the gate... with only 7 in local = dead tengu. I had no chance to escape, and when i saw the rapier decloak 56K from me... I was like lol burn the other direction, all is well. But no all is not well. Long webs are loooooooooong. http://kespa.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13162137 I am sad

I'm confused by the lack of falcon on that mail. Were you skirmished?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Chessurisaboss
Profile Joined November 2011
7 Posts
April 24 2012 16:13 GMT
#21559
On April 25 2012 00:23 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 23:44 Ramiel wrote:
le sigh. Skermished linked rapier on the gate... with only 7 in local = dead tengu. I had no chance to escape, and when i saw the rapier decloak 56K from me... I was like lol burn the other direction, all is well. But no all is not well. Long webs are loooooooooong. http://kespa.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13162137 I am sad

I'm confused by the lack of falcon on that mail. Were you skirmished?


Yes i was skermish... but so were they. the cynabal had long point on me. So i could not warp out, rapier over heated his mwd initally to catch me... and becuase he uncloaked in web range (52 K) it was over before i knew it. After he had web it was a long drawn out burn fest, with me OH on everything trying to get the rapierl off me. But sadly i could not get it out in time. If i was booster fit- ya I could have lived NP. But sadly.... i broke before the rapier did.
tooDARKpark
Profile Joined June 2011
United States149 Posts
April 24 2012 18:53 GMT
#21560
My issue is this: active tanks are, largely, for solo work. So...they want to make Minmatar and Gallente into solo boats, and suboptimal fleet ships. This is sad.
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