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On April 25 2012 03:53 tooDARKpark wrote: My issue is this: active tanks are, largely, for solo work. So...they want to make Minmatar and Gallente into solo boats, and suboptimal fleet ships. This is sad.
ya sucks that you can only fly one race
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Lalalaland34483 Posts
And penguins makes an appearance ~
Chessur why do you have 2 accounts lol
I'm surprised they could break you before you broke the rapier but who knows
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The New Bropacts and OTEC
During the Venal campaign, Ev0ke approached us about a tech deal; after we had made good on the agreement, NCdot approached us as well. Having taken so many moons so rapidly that GЅОL was beginning to thrash about worryingly, foam at the mouth, and mis-time the same moon twice in a row, we decided to declare victory and go home to VFK. Perhaps amusingly, NCdot’s pets have loudly declared that they were /also/ victorious; perhaps it’s a scenario where everyone wins!
Everyone winning is the goal of OTEC, our new diplomatic initiative. OTEC – the Organization of Technetium Exporting Corporations – is here to regulate galactic technetium supply and ensure stable pricing so everyone in the market can benefit. Just like with the real world’s OPEC, ‘Everyone’ in this case means ‘us’ and ‘benefit’ means ‘ahahaha fuck you scrubs’. With discussion of ‘ring mining’ being a method of nerfing tech income, most of the organizations in nullsec that have tech moons are interested in jacking the prices as high as the market will bear, with twin benefits: making us (CFC/NCdot/Ev0ke/PL) comically wealthy at the expense of literally everyone else in the game, and making literally everyone else in the game howl in a rage about it.
I have announced OTEC before it actually exists just to see if I could spook the tech markets by tweeting; I now have almost 4000 nerds following me, and fuck it. Turns out I can (the price rocketed almost to 200k) and now we’re playing catch up to actually make OTEC a reality. - quote taken from some random EveNews24 article
This kind of stuff is why I love Eve. Goons have declared an economic war on everyone (again) by accident (sort of). I can't think of any other game with this kind of scale, where joking around about refusing to export a resource can lead to a spike in prices.
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I was reading the story about the Rifter pilot and thought to myself "Kwark! Why are you humiliating my badness on the forums ?" then I realised hey, it's not me he is writing about this time. Thank you for making my badness slightly better"
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Doctrine: Tengufleet
We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.
The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.
It is not a replacement for Alphafleet. BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume.
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On April 25 2012 05:08 Mandini wrote:Show nested quote +Doctrine: Tengufleet
We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.
The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.
It is not a replacement for Alphafleet. BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume.
Pretty sure Goons are not going to extend Tengu reimbursement to getting fluffed in EC-
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United States41907 Posts
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On April 25 2012 07:22 hagon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:08 Mandini wrote:Doctrine: Tengufleet
We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.
The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.
It is not a replacement for Alphafleet. BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume. Pretty sure Goons are not going to extend Tengu reimbursement to getting fluffed in EC- goons actually have 100% reimbursement for all roams, even if youre solo, even for pve losses etc. edit: pve as in if your ratting ship gets killed by a gang, not rats :S
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pretty sick account, how much did you pay for it ?
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On April 25 2012 07:34 Warri wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 07:22 hagon wrote:On April 25 2012 05:08 Mandini wrote:Doctrine: Tengufleet
We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.
The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.
It is not a replacement for Alphafleet. BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume. Pretty sure Goons are not going to extend Tengu reimbursement to getting fluffed in EC- goons actually have 100% reimbursement for all roams, even if youre solo, even for pve losses etc. edit: pve as in if your ratting ship gets killed by a gang, not rats :S
Fun rumor but it isn't true.
"The ship must have been lost during a fleet fight or during a convoy to the fight. Losses while you were traveling solo to or from a fight are not covered."
https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Reimbursement
Also reimbursement rarely covers the full cost of the ship, particularly if you bought it from within CFC instead of buying it yourself in Jita.
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On April 25 2012 07:34 Warri wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 07:22 hagon wrote:On April 25 2012 05:08 Mandini wrote:Doctrine: Tengufleet
We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.
The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.
It is not a replacement for Alphafleet. BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume. Pretty sure Goons are not going to extend Tengu reimbursement to getting fluffed in EC- goons actually have 100% reimbursement for all roams, even if youre solo, even for pve losses etc. edit: pve as in if your ratting ship gets killed by a gang, not rats :S
Three rules for Goon Reimbursement (from a former goon pilot):
**Must be lost during a sanctioned GOONOP (one approved by a director or someone similar) **Must be fit according to GOONDOCTRINE (they have specific fleet setups for virtually every ship, you must use this setup or no $$) **Reimbursement covers the gap between insurance payout and JITA BUY ORDER price of whatever the fuck you lose. These payouts are determined when the fit is deemed fleet worthy, and they rarely update the pricing. After inflation, you lose about what you paid in insurance for whatever ship for whatever you decide to fly.
You also have to go through the pain in the ass of getting another one to wherever, but Goons are actually really good at keeping their main market stations supplied.
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On April 25 2012 07:48 Mysticus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 07:34 Warri wrote:On April 25 2012 07:22 hagon wrote:On April 25 2012 05:08 Mandini wrote:Doctrine: Tengufleet
We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.
The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.
It is not a replacement for Alphafleet. BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume. Pretty sure Goons are not going to extend Tengu reimbursement to getting fluffed in EC- goons actually have 100% reimbursement for all roams, even if youre solo, even for pve losses etc. edit: pve as in if your ratting ship gets killed by a gang, not rats :S Three rules for Goon Reimbursement (from a former goon pilot): **Must be lost during a sanctioned GOONOP (one approved by a director or someone similar) **Must be fit according to GOONDOCTRINE (they have specific fleet setups for virtually every ship, you must use this setup or no $$) **Reimbursement covers the gap between insurance payout and JITA BUY ORDER price of whatever the fuck you lose. These payouts are determined when the fit is deemed fleet worthy, and they rarely update the pricing. After inflation, you lose about what you paid in insurance for whatever ship for whatever you decide to fly. You also have to go through the pain in the ass of getting another one to wherever, but Goons are actually really good at keeping their main market stations supplied. Ive been lied to!
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United States7481 Posts
well, it turns out none of you are right
there's wartime reimbursement which is basically what mysticus wrote and maybe even a bit more generous, also covering fitting in some cases
then there's peacetime reimbursement, which has much looser standards but barely covers hull cost in most cases peacetime reimbursement is also not always in effect (ie, during war)
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Someone mind explaining to me the Orca from EC- on the killboard?
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On April 25 2012 11:01 ghost_403 wrote: Someone mind explaining to me the Orca from EC- on the killboard? I do mind
GOOD DAY SIR
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On April 25 2012 12:29 Body_Shield wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:01 ghost_403 wrote: Someone mind explaining to me the Orca from EC- on the killboard? I do mind GOOD DAY SIR
hatch lyfe
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Just spent all freakin night looking for pvp action that (contrary to my usual style) didn't involve suicide. Finally find a cane that will fight but he's dual web with double neut, so I say I have to repair (I was ratting and he assumed I was ratting for sec status not just waiting for a fight). Have a friend in a firetail who's feeling frisky and he's convinced double TD fit firetail will carry the field. So I'm like fuck it, I suck and that's all I'll need to tell anyone who sees the lossmail. So I go to "repair" but I'm actually grabbing a nos and sending up prayers that it will be enough to hold a point under double neut when I run into krole chillin in a myrm 2j out of 4 omw to grab said nos. I'm like ok let's make this a party. Krole wanna nab an easy cane kill? He says sure and we are now firetail, thrasher, and cane. I say screw getting a nos let's do this right now (have a neut fitted)
So I jump back into system and he says he's got some rats chained for me on top belt (does he really think I'm this stupid?)
I jump in, he locks me immediately and the fight commences. I x up in fleet chat, firetail and myrm land. At this point I'm so low on neut I'm surprised I held point long enough for the firetail to grab it. Regardless, I'm dropping pretty fast, but the cane is down to about 75% armor and he figures it's time to dip. As I'm dropping to 80ish % structure I manage to make it away from him (he was aligned to sun I was aligned opposite his direction and managed to make it out even though my transversal was something akin to 0) spam warp = me getting out in 50% structure. Well krole is raining pain on him and the firetail is dodging guns in spite of double web and double neut (firetails are fast c/d?) due to double TD and his nos is keeping them running. Too bad his nos can't keep point and both TDs running at the same time >.> que utter frustration as Krole runs into an asteroid, drops to 0m/s and the cane is able to warp off as I'm landing back on the field.
TL;DR: Krole sucks, I suck, firetail pilot sucks. Cane made it out in 10% armor. Noob lyfe.
Edit: Cane convos me shortly afterwards saying he likes my style and wants to be my friend. Hopefully I can find a way to kill him under this guise of friendship >.> I want that kill :<
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On April 25 2012 08:48 Antoine wrote: well, it turns out none of you are right
there's wartime reimbursement which is basically what mysticus wrote and maybe even a bit more generous, also covering fitting in some cases
then there's peacetime reimbursement, which has much looser standards but barely covers hull cost in most cases peacetime reimbursement is also not always in effect (ie, during war)
I think I was only in goons during wars so that might make sense.
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