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tmonet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States172 Posts
April 24 2012 19:14 GMT
#21561
On April 25 2012 03:53 tooDARKpark wrote:
My issue is this: active tanks are, largely, for solo work. So...they want to make Minmatar and Gallente into solo boats, and suboptimal fleet ships. This is sad.


ya sucks that you can only fly one race
wp | moe moe kyun!~~~ ♥
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
April 24 2012 19:19 GMT
#21562
And penguins makes an appearance ~

Chessur why do you have 2 accounts lol

I'm surprised they could break you before you broke the rapier but who knows
Moderator
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 24 2012 19:47 GMT
#21563
The New Bropacts and OTEC

During the Venal campaign, Ev0ke approached us about a tech deal; after we had made good on the agreement, NCdot approached us as well. Having taken so many moons so rapidly that GЅОL was beginning to thrash about worryingly, foam at the mouth, and mis-time the same moon twice in a row, we decided to declare victory and go home to VFK. Perhaps amusingly, NCdot’s pets have loudly declared that they were /also/ victorious; perhaps it’s a scenario where everyone wins!

Everyone winning is the goal of OTEC, our new diplomatic initiative. OTEC – the Organization of Technetium Exporting Corporations – is here to regulate galactic technetium supply and ensure stable pricing so everyone in the market can benefit. Just like with the real world’s OPEC, ‘Everyone’ in this case means ‘us’ and ‘benefit’ means ‘ahahaha fuck you scrubs’. With discussion of ‘ring mining’ being a method of nerfing tech income, most of the organizations in nullsec that have tech moons are interested in jacking the prices as high as the market will bear, with twin benefits: making us (CFC/NCdot/Ev0ke/PL) comically wealthy at the expense of literally everyone else in the game, and making literally everyone else in the game howl in a rage about it.

I have announced OTEC before it actually exists just to see if I could spook the tech markets by tweeting; I now have almost 4000 nerds following me, and fuck it. Turns out I can (the price rocketed almost to 200k) and now we’re playing catch up to actually make OTEC a reality.

- quote taken from some random EveNews24 article

This kind of stuff is why I love Eve. Goons have declared an economic war on everyone (again) by accident (sort of). I can't think of any other game with this kind of scale, where joking around about refusing to export a resource can lead to a spike in prices.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Big Monkey
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom473 Posts
April 24 2012 20:03 GMT
#21564
I was reading the story about the Rifter pilot and thought to myself "Kwark! Why are you humiliating my badness on the forums ?" then I realised hey, it's not me he is writing about this time. Thank you for making my badness slightly better"
I smell revival, dead bones coming alive again
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
April 24 2012 20:08 GMT
#21565
Doctrine: Tengufleet

We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.

The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.

It is not a replacement for Alphafleet.

BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume.
hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
April 24 2012 22:22 GMT
#21566
On April 25 2012 05:08 Mandini wrote:
Show nested quote +
Doctrine: Tengufleet

We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.

The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.

It is not a replacement for Alphafleet.

BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume.


Pretty sure Goons are not going to extend Tengu reimbursement to getting fluffed in EC-
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43866 Posts
April 24 2012 22:27 GMT
#21567
So, I own this toon now.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Blackcamper
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 22:35:27
April 24 2012 22:34 GMT
#21568
On April 25 2012 07:22 hagon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 05:08 Mandini wrote:
Doctrine: Tengufleet

We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.

The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.

It is not a replacement for Alphafleet.

BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume.


Pretty sure Goons are not going to extend Tengu reimbursement to getting fluffed in EC-

goons actually have 100% reimbursement for all roams, even if youre solo, even for pve losses etc.
edit: pve as in if your ratting ship gets killed by a gang, not rats :S
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
April 24 2012 22:42 GMT
#21569
On April 25 2012 07:27 KwarK wrote:
So, I own this toon now.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Blackcamper


pretty sick account, how much did you pay for it ?
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
April 24 2012 22:43 GMT
#21570
On April 25 2012 07:34 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 07:22 hagon wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:08 Mandini wrote:
Doctrine: Tengufleet

We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.

The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.

It is not a replacement for Alphafleet.

BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume.


Pretty sure Goons are not going to extend Tengu reimbursement to getting fluffed in EC-

goons actually have 100% reimbursement for all roams, even if youre solo, even for pve losses etc.
edit: pve as in if your ratting ship gets killed by a gang, not rats :S


Fun rumor but it isn't true.

"The ship must have been lost during a fleet fight or during a convoy to the fight. Losses while you were traveling solo to or from a fight are not covered."

https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Reimbursement

Also reimbursement rarely covers the full cost of the ship, particularly if you bought it from within CFC instead of buying it yourself in Jita.
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 22:49:33
April 24 2012 22:48 GMT
#21571
On April 25 2012 07:34 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 07:22 hagon wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:08 Mandini wrote:
Doctrine: Tengufleet

We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.

The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.

It is not a replacement for Alphafleet.

BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume.


Pretty sure Goons are not going to extend Tengu reimbursement to getting fluffed in EC-

goons actually have 100% reimbursement for all roams, even if youre solo, even for pve losses etc.
edit: pve as in if your ratting ship gets killed by a gang, not rats :S


Three rules for Goon Reimbursement (from a former goon pilot):

**Must be lost during a sanctioned GOONOP (one approved by a director or someone similar)
**Must be fit according to GOONDOCTRINE (they have specific fleet setups for virtually every ship, you must use this setup or no $$)
**Reimbursement covers the gap between insurance payout and JITA BUY ORDER price of whatever the fuck you lose. These payouts are determined when the fit is deemed fleet worthy, and they rarely update the pricing. After inflation, you lose about what you paid in insurance for whatever ship for whatever you decide to fly.

You also have to go through the pain in the ass of getting another one to wherever, but Goons are actually really good at keeping their main market stations supplied.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
April 24 2012 23:42 GMT
#21572
On April 25 2012 07:48 Mysticus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 07:34 Warri wrote:
On April 25 2012 07:22 hagon wrote:
On April 25 2012 05:08 Mandini wrote:
Doctrine: Tengufleet

We’re going to unveil a reimbursable Tengufleet doctrine in the next two months. Ѕtart training Caldari Strategic Cruiѕer and T2 Heavy Missiles if you’d like to fly one of these beasts; it’s essentially the same crap we fight against every night, a Drakefleet but with Tengus. Ѕimple.

The difference between ‘our Tengufleet’ and every other Tengufleet floating around is that we can put 200 of the damn things on the field at once – and will lose every single one of them. Tengufleet will be deployed in support of an existing Alphafleet‚ or used to leverage numerіcal superiority in off-timezones.

It is not a replacement for Alphafleet.

BBQ has his killboard hand ready I assume.


Pretty sure Goons are not going to extend Tengu reimbursement to getting fluffed in EC-

goons actually have 100% reimbursement for all roams, even if youre solo, even for pve losses etc.
edit: pve as in if your ratting ship gets killed by a gang, not rats :S


Three rules for Goon Reimbursement (from a former goon pilot):

**Must be lost during a sanctioned GOONOP (one approved by a director or someone similar)
**Must be fit according to GOONDOCTRINE (they have specific fleet setups for virtually every ship, you must use this setup or no $$)
**Reimbursement covers the gap between insurance payout and JITA BUY ORDER price of whatever the fuck you lose. These payouts are determined when the fit is deemed fleet worthy, and they rarely update the pricing. After inflation, you lose about what you paid in insurance for whatever ship for whatever you decide to fly.

You also have to go through the pain in the ass of getting another one to wherever, but Goons are actually really good at keeping their main market stations supplied.

Ive been lied to!
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 23:48:34
April 24 2012 23:48 GMT
#21573
well, it turns out none of you are right

there's wartime reimbursement which is basically what mysticus wrote and maybe even a bit more generous, also covering fitting in some cases

then there's peacetime reimbursement, which has much looser standards but barely covers hull cost in most cases
peacetime reimbursement is also not always in effect (ie, during war)
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
April 25 2012 02:01 GMT
#21574
Someone mind explaining to me the Orca from EC- on the killboard?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
April 25 2012 03:29 GMT
#21575
On April 25 2012 11:01 ghost_403 wrote:
Someone mind explaining to me the Orca from EC- on the killboard?

I do mind

GOOD DAY SIR
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
April 25 2012 04:00 GMT
#21576
On April 25 2012 12:29 Body_Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 11:01 ghost_403 wrote:
Someone mind explaining to me the Orca from EC- on the killboard?

I do mind

GOOD DAY SIR


hatch lyfe
FADC
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 06:17:15
April 25 2012 06:16 GMT
#21577
Just spent all freakin night looking for pvp action that (contrary to my usual style) didn't involve suicide. Finally find a cane that will fight but he's dual web with double neut, so I say I have to repair (I was ratting and he assumed I was ratting for sec status not just waiting for a fight). Have a friend in a firetail who's feeling frisky and he's convinced double TD fit firetail will carry the field. So I'm like fuck it, I suck and that's all I'll need to tell anyone who sees the lossmail. So I go to "repair" but I'm actually grabbing a nos and sending up prayers that it will be enough to hold a point under double neut when I run into krole chillin in a myrm 2j out of 4 omw to grab said nos. I'm like ok let's make this a party. Krole wanna nab an easy cane kill? He says sure and we are now firetail, thrasher, and cane. I say screw getting a nos let's do this right now (have a neut fitted)

So I jump back into system and he says he's got some rats chained for me on top belt (does he really think I'm this stupid?)

I jump in, he locks me immediately and the fight commences. I x up in fleet chat, firetail and myrm land. At this point I'm so low on neut I'm surprised I held point long enough for the firetail to grab it. Regardless, I'm dropping pretty fast, but the cane is down to about 75% armor and he figures it's time to dip. As I'm dropping to 80ish % structure I manage to make it away from him (he was aligned to sun I was aligned opposite his direction and managed to make it out even though my transversal was something akin to 0) spam warp = me getting out in 50% structure. Well krole is raining pain on him and the firetail is dodging guns in spite of double web and double neut (firetails are fast c/d?) due to double TD and his nos is keeping them running. Too bad his nos can't keep point and both TDs running at the same time >.> que utter frustration as Krole runs into an asteroid, drops to 0m/s and the cane is able to warp off as I'm landing back on the field.

TL;DR: Krole sucks, I suck, firetail pilot sucks. Cane made it out in 10% armor. Noob lyfe.

Edit: Cane convos me shortly afterwards saying he likes my style and wants to be my friend. Hopefully I can find a way to kill him under this guise of friendship >.> I want that kill :<
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
April 25 2012 10:52 GMT
#21578
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13168792

People actually buy and use those things?
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
April 25 2012 12:11 GMT
#21579
On April 25 2012 08:48 Antoine wrote:
well, it turns out none of you are right

there's wartime reimbursement which is basically what mysticus wrote and maybe even a bit more generous, also covering fitting in some cases

then there's peacetime reimbursement, which has much looser standards but barely covers hull cost in most cases
peacetime reimbursement is also not always in effect (ie, during war)


I think I was only in goons during wars so that might make sense.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 18:59:21
April 25 2012 18:41 GMT
#21580
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13171422

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So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
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