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kazokun
Profile Joined April 2008
United States163 Posts
February 23 2009 00:13 GMT
#261
Also, Rifters. And you can fly those right away from the start.
Who wants to be a dragon when you can be Anytime? - Fontong
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 00:41:02
February 23 2009 00:37 GMT
#262
So you're not actually a character in the sense that you can walk around/see yourself, but only control a ship all the time and do pve/upgrades/missions/pvp etc? The character development and attachment that is so key to mmorpgs seem to go lost when your "character" is a ship..

I'm sure the gameplay is extremely deep and advanced, but with the lack of better words.. it seems kind of boring? And is there actually any SKILL involved in the game for pvp? Or it just based on knowledge/experience?

Every single video ive watched i keep asking myself "where is the excitement?"

Guess im too much into fast paced/action games to really get into this, even though ive played tons of mmorpgs.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 00:51:18
February 23 2009 00:45 GMT
#263
On February 23 2009 09:37 Senx wrote:
So you're not actually a character in the sense that you can walk around/see yourself, but only control a ship all the time and do pve/upgrades/missions/pvp etc? The character development and attachment that is so key to mmorpgs seem to go lost when your "character" is a ship..

Well, when ambulation comes out, you'll have a character and be able to walk in stations.


I'm sure the gameplay is extremely deep and advanced, but with the lack of better words.. it seems kind of boring? And is there actually any SKILL involved in the game for pvp? Or it just based on knowledge/experience?

Correct on both accounts IMO.
It's why I never play for too long a stretch. There's a certain amount of skill involved but EVE is primarily a knowledge based game.
Still, there are a lot of dumb pilots out there...
The one exception may be FCing (fleet commanding).



o, and in the new patch, it is being reported that:

- Race/Bloodline/School is now completely irrelevant...it makes no difference to the skills you get now. It's simply for looks and lolRP reasons.

- Skill training is now accelerated at double the rate for the first 1.6m SP

- All characters receive the same base attributes

- All characters can change attributes for free twice in the first 1.6m SP

this is subject to change but it is what is currently shown on the test server.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 23 2009 00:51 GMT
#264
http://www.onlinegamecommands.com/eveonline/eveonlinelearningskills.htm

http://wiki.goonfleet.com/index.php?title=Recommended_Base_Stat_Builds


Those two helped me in the beginning. (Which means "during the last few days"..)

Feel free to msg ingame (rEvoTheUnknown), some TLers are invading Dexxus' Corp already, join the feast ;p
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
nc[retaliator]
Profile Joined February 2009
Romania130 Posts
February 23 2009 00:51 GMT
#265
for senx: well trust me there is alot of excitement when u jump through a gate, in 0.0 i mean u can get bubble camped with insta locking rapiers! or jst a heavy dictor/ rapier and things get dirty! coolest thing its to make cyno and jump with a carrier or smth and pwn ppl at least i was doing it vs farmers aka chins was so funny to catch them into the bubble 4-5 bs and cyno my carrier/aeon pvp its all about teamwork, so for that each one must understand and play hes role very well, i mean tackler damage dealer and ew and also fc-ing (fleet commanding) its very important. I mean to call the targets properly and survive alot together. Coolest things i`ve done its with alot of blastertrons with remote and jumping in big camps even u know u prolly get killed if ure called primary its always fun to been remote rep and kill more then u lose and even win and get the whole loot btw falcons are gay if u know how to use them! so go train for those !
only those who try will succed!
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
February 23 2009 01:06 GMT
#266
On February 23 2009 09:51 r.Evo wrote:
http://www.onlinegamecommands.com/eveonline/eveonlinelearningskills.htm

http://wiki.goonfleet.com/index.php?title=Recommended_Base_Stat_Builds


Those two helped me in the beginning. (Which means "during the last few days"..)

Feel free to msg ingame (rEvoTheUnknown), some TLers are invading Dexxus' Corp already, join the feast ;p


Great link to the wiki, how do i register so i can surf it each page says req a log in
OMG you nasty gurl
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42423 Posts
February 23 2009 01:12 GMT
#267
I'm on X ATM092. Feel free to add me although I have no idea what I'm doing.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
February 23 2009 01:51 GMT
#268
On February 23 2009 10:12 Kwark wrote:
I'm on X ATM092. Feel free to add me although I have no idea what I'm doing.


You should join #teamliquid
We could help you there.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
General Nuke Em
Profile Joined March 2008
United States680 Posts
February 23 2009 02:14 GMT
#269
On February 23 2009 10:06 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 09:51 r.Evo wrote:
http://www.onlinegamecommands.com/eveonline/eveonlinelearningskills.htm

http://wiki.goonfleet.com/index.php?title=Recommended_Base_Stat_Builds


Those two helped me in the beginning. (Which means "during the last few days"..)

Feel free to msg ingame (rEvoTheUnknown), some TLers are invading Dexxus' Corp already, join the feast ;p


Great link to the wiki, how do i register so i can surf it each page says req a log in


Its a goonfleet internal wiki;its not for public access. They're just nice enough to make the newbie stuff public.
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
February 23 2009 02:19 GMT
#270
goonfleet is not nice lol they scam noobs into paying an "application processing fee"
yes.
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
February 23 2009 02:31 GMT
#271
What region is Dexxus Corp. in?
Derp
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
February 23 2009 02:42 GMT
#272
This looks really interesting. Anyone with an account want to send a me a buddy invite?
KwanROLLLLLLLED
Aurra
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 02:56:24
February 23 2009 02:51 GMT
#273
On February 23 2009 11:42 Lysdexia wrote:
This looks really interesting. Anyone with an account want to send a me a buddy invite?


Sure, PM me your e-mail.

Edit: That goes for anyone else that wants an extended trial too. I have three 21-day trials left that I can hand out. That gives you an additional week over the default trial.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 03:06:54
February 23 2009 03:05 GMT
#274
nintu and i have been playing this for like the last few days. i'm nitrogen23 on there if anyone wants to add me. we're just doing some missions etc now and getting gear

edit: oh yeah, i'm making one of those tackler things, so far i have stasis and my microwarp drive, all i need now is a warp disruptor and we can go own some bitches
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Aurra
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States469 Posts
February 23 2009 03:33 GMT
#275
Small frigate based PVP is some of the most fun you can have in the game. Learn to use your scanner properly and you should be able to find random idiots in low-sec belts to smash up at a decent pace. If you wanted more people to pvp with you could join the NPC run faction militias which generally have small fleets running 23/7.

Just don't be afraid to lose your ship(s). That's the biggest mistake new PVPers make.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
February 23 2009 03:37 GMT
#276
so do we have a corporation or something yet
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 23 2009 03:45 GMT
#277
On February 23 2009 12:33 Aurra wrote:
Small frigate based PVP is some of the most fun you can have in the game. Learn to use your scanner properly and you should be able to find random idiots in low-sec belts to smash up at a decent pace. If you wanted more people to pvp with you could join the NPC run faction militias which generally have small fleets running 23/7.

Just don't be afraid to lose your ship(s). That's the biggest mistake new PVPers make.


Frigates are really the only fun PvP now because EvE devs have repeatedly massacred the speed of larger ships. You used to be able to actually go at a decent speed in a battleship, not so anymore.

Eve used to be a much faster game and much more quickly paced, now anything above really assault frigate is deathly slow.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
kazokun
Profile Joined April 2008
United States163 Posts
February 23 2009 05:43 GMT
#278
http://www.battleclinic.com/


For all you newbies who are having trouble knowing what to fit your frigs with, here's a site that has the best fits known to man for every ship in the game.
Who wants to be a dragon when you can be Anytime? - Fontong
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 23 2009 12:01 GMT
#279
On February 23 2009 11:31 ShoreT wrote:
What region is Dexxus Corp. in?


It's in Gallante Space; just join #teamliquid chat chan, we'll pick you up from there.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Ceril
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden1343 Posts
February 23 2009 12:25 GMT
#280
Aaah, eve. Since I'am currently just a minor threat I wont bother to say much about the years old conflict of bob and goons :S

Highsec: I'am only there to shop with my alt.
Lowsec Piracy. Been there, done it extensively. Love it, hate it.
0.0: Love it, many pirates can never become a good 00 player since losing a ship makes them sad 0.0 pvpers say: Drats, Ill get another one.

Amarr is quite good skill intensive, you do require thoose t2 lazers to be there. Their cruiser hulls are subpar to matar & gallent, stabber/rupture/thorax/vexor

Minmatar, high skilled phoon is their best bs. Hurricane is godly with t2 guns and my favorite bc ingame, great for solo, piracy, 0.0 and so on. Excellent platform. The hurricane rocks, I cant use enough words to tell you how effing good this ship is flown right and fitted right.

Gallente: High damage, closerange, do or die. Dominix is a great missionrunner ship, a great pvp ship. Very flexible platform. Probably the most flexible, you never know what a domi is there to do till you scan it or its dead. Megathron is pure sexy. Vexor is a great cruiser. Brutix is fun, myrm is also fun but both < hurricane.

Caldari:
Blackbird, Scorpion. ECM help your buddies on the field with this. Blackbird is cheap cruiser and takes about, a week to skill for? And you'll be of use in any gang. Except if your fighting at gates ofc. More on that later.
Drake, Caracal, Raven. The missionboats. Not to good at much else to. Fleet support killers.
Creativity with ravens get you a long way.

--------------------
Ask me anything regarding missions, piracy, how to fit your ship and you will receive an answer. I've been holding alot of classes for begineers to get them up to speed.

talk to Vim in the TL channel =)



Just because you can now store where everyone was and is, what they like, what they fear who they talk to and who they love. It does not mean we should so spy upon our fellow man in a dystopia far worse then 1984
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