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On January 28 2009 05:38 [-Bluewolf-] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 05:15 Velr wrote:
1on1 in this game is actually pretty poor... I mean: Of ALL the replays between 2 rather good players.. Search the ones that have T3 units in it and the ones that take over 25 minutes... If it's over 1%, i'm astonished. Well, 1v1 ranked ladder is played with 3 Victory Point Locations - and either yourself or your opponent will control the majority of these. As controlling these makes your opponents 500 victory points decrease and with no way to increase it, the game basically has a "win timer". Someone eventually loses all 500 points - and close games of say 27-0 will end around 22 minutes. Not necessarily a bad thing, imo, as it does mean one can play a quick game during lunch or something without worrying that it will go on too long. Something does need to be done about T3 though. One must first have to pay for the tier 3 upgrade, and then due to lack of an ability to increase one's resource rate in the game at this point, wait for over a minute to be able to afford a single T3 unit. By the time this unit gets to the field of battle, someone would already be basically out of victory points...... It just isn't viable in 1v1 at the moment.
Hmm this post will be my first negative one.. I'm getting slightly bored :S
I do agree that T3 is a waste of time, especially for my race, the Eldar.
There's no reason at all to go that far. With banshees, warp spiders and falcon tanks you can counter anything.
I think the tier's should reduce your upkeep, increase your unit cap or at least give more gear to your units.
The only real reason to go to T2 is so I can upgrade my banshees and commander, but T3 doesn't give any further upgrades.
I have to say the game to me is already becoming very repetitive. I know the maps now and I'm just doing the same successful moves over and over and over. There's no real depth to the game.
And the matchmaking system sucks, I keep getting weak players who refuse to leave and just stretch the games out for no good reason.
I'm 23-4 now, with 3 of those losses coming in my first 6 games and I guess I'm bored already.
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so f-ing kewl ... im gonna dwnld this in no time !!! xD seeya ! xD
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Gogo Klive5ive! Let's play one game together  (sent you an invite)
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On January 28 2009 23:27 Klive5ive wrote:
I have to say the game to me is already becoming very repetitive. I know the maps now and I'm just doing the same successful moves over and over and over. There's no real depth to the game.
And the matchmaking system sucks, I keep getting weak players who refuse to leave and just stretch the games out for no good reason.
I'm 23-4 now, with 3 of those losses coming in my first 6 games and I guess I'm bored already.
Hence why the DOW series is a casual fun one. :p But I can recommend either: A) Trying out the other races and figuring out how to win with them for a new experience, or B) Playing in the ESL 1v1 tournament this weekend. The games in a tournament usually end up being more challenging and closer than those on the ladder.
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Lol i just got schooled by Toast....
I need to watch replays :S
Silly matchmaking
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Must be pretty difficult to balance against timer - suddenly you aren't just balancing econ/armies, but having to restrict a lot of possibility to make sure that stalls and such aren't destroying matchups.
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It seems to me that visually, the game looks pretty clear and everything is way more 'thinner' than in SC 2
I hope Blizz gets through their heads that WC3 style graphics SUCKS ASS in a RTS
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The timer isn't a big issue if you dont let it be. If you always have one point captured it is doesn't tick down too fast.
I think its a good mechanic that forces battles to happen anywhere on the map.
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The beta is open for everyone now, you just need to get on Steam and find the beta, then click install. :p
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<--- "adore him"
add me, play with me ^^
Tryed some orks... 3-0 with Whaagboss, then went with the kommanda... 1-3 :/, whaagboss again 3-0.. trying spacemarines now.
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Just downloaded and installed and after some annoying Windows Live issues I've played my first 3 matches
2-1 so far as the Eldar... Pretty fun, but i can certainly see it becoming very slow and repetitive once teh metagame has developed. I prefer much faster paced not-squad-based RTS games.
If anyone wants to play a few matches, I still don't have any idea what i'm actually doing, but i'm definitely down to play.
My steam is "sfleet" or "Motiva" or PM me if you want to game some. I'd be interested in doing some 3v3 teamliquid matches and such.
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spacemarines suck :p.. got mauled by an eldar with Avatar...
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I don't get this game... at all.
Edit: Also runs like garbage on my comp with every settings turned down. :O
Okay... question. Does bringing back units to the main structure let you heal? I can't really tell, but my opponent kept bringing back a nearly full health force commander after I kept almost killing it and it was annoying. I know you can reinforce near the command structure.
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It let's you heal and reinforce.
Annoying like shit is, that you don't get an "under attack" command until the first unit died... If a Squad of Orks just walked into some heavy fire (devastator, shurriken) they are dead until you actually know whats happening... Probably you can look like the Nob dies but thats abut is.
Just lost a game because of that... :/
enough for today... Orks > Spesmarines... Couldn't to shit with marines, with ork i had close loses (except one) and clean wins...
That poor SM guy was truly hurt as my 3 stickbommas killed his tactical squad :p.. 330/10 vs 500 req? ouch :p
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Man, this kinda sucks now that I have an idea what to do. Everyone I play is a complete newb... takes longer to find a game than it does to play one. :/
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If anyone has a 3v3 team and wants to play, hit me up sometime! :D
Steam: Shinyface
WinLive: Shiny000
Gogo!
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Windows live name is Maerot
i'm not completely horrible i promise
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I'm really looking forward to this.
The only thing they have to get right is balance. If they manage to do that, I won't play SC2 but DOW2 instead.
The game is generally more appealing to me - cooler universe, great soundtrack  , focus on micro, tactical battles, lots of terrain modifiers, and of course the WH40k races are cooler than the Starcraft copies. Plus, I'm not too happy with some of the new units in SC2, and I still don't like all graphics (although they have improved, some things still look like toys), while DOW2 looks absolutely amazing.
If there is a competitor for "better RTS than SC1" apart from SC2, it's this game. And we really need a new "best RTS". Because unless you love every aspect about SC1 to death, chances are high that you're (by now, after all these years...) sick and tired of some of the more annoying aspects of SC1 (like me), and you really want a better game without such flaws, but unfortunately there is still none.
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Been messing around with Tyranid... can't for the life of me figure out how to do anything useful with the Hive Tyrant (so freaking slow, not even all that good at combat, synapse isn't that good... people just avoid him in general)... heroes in general seem pretty unbalanced. Each race has one hero that has gains hitpoints at a substantially faster rate than the other heros, and it doesn't seem like the abilities the other heroes even come close to making it up except for the Warp Spider Exarch. Maybe I'm missing something.
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On January 29 2009 15:22 zer0das wrote:
Been messing around with Tyranid... can't for the life of me figure out how to do anything useful with the Hive Tyrant (so freaking slow, not even all that good at combat, synapse isn't that good... people just avoid him in general)... heroes in general seem pretty unbalanced. Each race has one hero that has gains hitpoints at a substantially faster rate than the other heros, and it doesn't seem like the abilities the other heroes even come close to making it up except for the Warp Spider Exarch. Maybe I'm missing something.
Hmm i don't think you can say which of the tryranid or space marine commanders are the best. I haven't play enough orks or eldar to know wether thier heroes are balanced.
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