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On November 12 2008 11:04 JeeJee wrote:uh. Show nested quote +nor did I argue that the competitiveness of a game is based on how many sponsored or league/teams there are. cough Show nested quote +You pay once for cs, its not a subscription. A good competitive game [ aka gameplay ] will draw players. If you compare GunZ to CS+CS:Source [ the most popular multiplayer game in the world even if you included Korea and sc ] its pretty laughable to think a skilled GunZ player is comparable to a valuable member of a big CS team. Are there even leagues for GunZ? Show nested quote +What I am arguing is not absolutely stupid. Games that are good/harder will have a huge community behind them, aka sc and cs. except that's not what you're arguing. you're arguing that games that are good will have huge sponsors/leagues available to them anyway, please define to me what you consider as 'wide' league/sponsor support. because i would argue that neither the old unreals nor the old quakes had it, yet they were fucking awesome. moreover i still dont see why you're restricting it to fps only when it's clearly not a genre-specific point. and if it is, then did you miss the fact that gunz isnt an fps. anyway, AoX anyone?
...? I still don't get it. I'm arguing that one of the qualities of a good competitive game is large player/higher skilled player competition base. That's one of the qualities that makes a game competitive. GunZ can be described as an FPS, so don't know why you made that point. I've played the game as apparent from my other posts I know its not purely FPS.
There's no sponsored teams and wide league support such as for games like super smash brothers, cs, sc, dota, war3, etc....These games have teams that play consistently, meaning annually at a big lan or through leagues. GunZ is an inferior competitive game in my book, and one way of looking at it is through its laughable competitive population. This is the last post I'll make since we have a lot of conflict on definitions.
Bottom line is GunZ is fun with friends, it has competition potential it has its own sub-skillsets that are extremely difficult, but its not anything like the big games. Don't try to make GunZ something it isn't.
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On November 12 2008 11:12 Ack1027 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2008 11:04 JeeJee wrote:uh. nor did I argue that the competitiveness of a game is based on how many sponsored or league/teams there are. cough You pay once for cs, its not a subscription. A good competitive game [ aka gameplay ] will draw players. If you compare GunZ to CS+CS:Source [ the most popular multiplayer game in the world even if you included Korea and sc ] its pretty laughable to think a skilled GunZ player is comparable to a valuable member of a big CS team. Are there even leagues for GunZ? What I am arguing is not absolutely stupid. Games that are good/harder will have a huge community behind them, aka sc and cs. except that's not what you're arguing. you're arguing that games that are good will have huge sponsors/leagues available to them anyway, please define to me what you consider as 'wide' league/sponsor support. because i would argue that neither the old unreals nor the old quakes had it, yet they were fucking awesome. moreover i still dont see why you're restricting it to fps only when it's clearly not a genre-specific point. and if it is, then did you miss the fact that gunz isnt an fps. anyway, AoX anyone? ...? I still don't get it. I'm arguing that one of the qualities of a good competitive game is large player/higher skilled player competition base. That's one of the qualities that makes a game competitive. GunZ can be described as an FPS, so don't know why you made that point. I've played the game as apparent from my other posts I know its not purely FPS. There's no sponsored teams and wide league support such as for games like super smash brothers, cs, sc, dota, war3, etc....These games have teams that play consistently, meaning annually at a big lan or through leagues. GunZ is an inferior competitive game in my book, and one way of looking at it is through its laughable competitive population. This is the last post I'll make since we have a lot of conflict on definitions. Bottom line is GunZ is fun with friends, it has competition potential it has its own sub-skillsets that are extremely difficult, but its not anything like the big games. Don't try to make GunZ something it isn't.
ok, i guess the main argument here is the definition of competitiveness. you seem to imply the major factor is popularity whereas i think it is gameplay. i guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
edit: by the way im on quest3 for a bit if anyone wants to play. ill be in channel teamliquid, and in chatroom TL (/chatjoin TL, type using @), also you can msg cordless
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ill be on quest 3 as well
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females are so imba. I got my male character to level 30 when i decided to make a female one. allows butterflies to be easier.
basically, females are faster
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I'm on as IntoTheWow or IntoTheRain
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On November 12 2008 11:34 omfghi2u2 wrote:
females are so imba. I got my male character to level 30 when i decided to make a female one. allows butterflies to be easier.
basically, females are faster
actually they just look nicer. in terms of actual gameplay mechanics, males are superior in every aspect from spray to certain moves that females simply cannot do
everyone still plays females though lol
anyway gf's heavonearth, 'twas fun. ill play again tomorrow for a lil bit if anyone wants to. probably around same time as this
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ok.. our team liquid meeting zone is then officially quest 3?
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Id say cs 1.6 is harder than gunz. I have a killer headache right now so ill probably edit later and make a more complete response.
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On November 12 2008 12:05 SaveYourSavior wrote:
ok.. our team liquid meeting zone is then officially quest 3?
alright quest 3 priv. channel teamliquid and chatroom is TL
type /chatjoin TL or whisper kerpwnt or join the channel!
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On November 12 2008 12:36 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
What exactly is k-style?
stands for korean style
basically fast movement using sword to dodge bullets while combining them with a fast shot for greatest dmg output/evasion generally shotguns or pistols
in other words while you're moving and dodging you pick opportune moments to let out a shot
typically you won't see k stylers with rifles sprayer weps etc.
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thanks guys for taking the time to teach me cute tricks :D
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Yeah well, K-Styling needs low ping usually, if not it's really hard but basically you are calm and defensive while looking for wholes to burst damage.
1v1 K-Style is not very fun. But some K-Stylers vs pubs is SO fun.
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aaaah intothewow
heretic
kstyle 1v1 is fun
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kstyle 1v1 is dumb from the players view and from the spectator view 
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but...
4V4 tdm Town Kstylers only...
do u have any objection =)
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