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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
July 10 2010 15:26 GMT
#5301
Well, part of the problem is that Q is garbage in 3s. You have to be much better than your opponent to beat them consistently.

It'd be easier to give you advice if we had some concrete examples of stuff that's giving you trouble. E.g. I have no idea what level your opponents are, so I don't know what kinds of pressure they're applying.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-10 16:40:28
July 10 2010 16:21 GMT
#5302
On July 10 2010 18:48 Humbug wrote:
Not sure if I should be asking here since this is the video thread, but I just recently got into third strike (and the entire fighting game genre actually) and am maining as Q (failing horribly).

It seems that I can never get off grabs / CaDB yet other players can grab me / karakusa me all the time. Am I doing something wrong? Also, how to deal with pressure? Q seems pretty slow, so when a dudley/ken/makoto/yun whathaveyou really gets into my space, I have a hard time countering their pressure since they seem to just go through everything I use and get through my blocking too. Like, it even seems hard to punish whiffed supers/specials since they always seem to instantly be able to block and then attack me back. (though that might just be because I'm reacting too slowly? or using the wrong moves)

Also is there anyway to open like a training mode or smth in GGPO, since it's kinda annoying to practice combos by having to add in a 2nd player by hand :\

Thanks

Just like Bill was saying, you gain frame advantages from parrying, so you NEED to use parry when using the lower tier characters.

Also, master Q's kara throw

im going on GGPO right now - and its lagging
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
July 10 2010 18:47 GMT
#5303


best hyper move ever
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
July 11 2010 05:06 GMT
#5304
blabberrrrr
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 05:31:36
July 11 2010 05:31 GMT
#5305
On July 11 2010 14:06 blabber wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl2D5s2dpw4


thanks for video. hella crazy

quick who's easier full miyako or crescent ciel in MBAA anyone lol?
Forever Young
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12237 Posts
July 11 2010 05:39 GMT
#5306
On July 11 2010 14:31 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2010 14:06 blabber wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl2D5s2dpw4


thanks for video. hella crazy

quick who's easier full miyako or crescent ciel in MBAA anyone lol?


Aw man, it was taken down. That was fast =(
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
July 11 2010 05:41 GMT
#5307
learn "the" one F-Miyako combo and you are set
not really, but
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 16:50:39
July 11 2010 16:48 GMT
#5308
I've never played against Ciel, but Miyako seems fairly easy to learn.

Recently I've started learning H-VAkiha (I'll post a video of my day-1 H-VAkiha in the Evo topic , along with an explanation of some of the game's mechanics). Her combos are surprisingly easy: you do have to get some timing down like in SSF4, but the timing is a lot easier than SSF4's links, imo. Basically, you just need to hit them with cr.C back.C dp+B, and if you're close to the corner you can do that 2 more times with ease ("momiji loop"). You can go into it from fullscreen too, but it's more complicated to exlpain. A downside of H-VAkiha for beginners, besides having very low health, is that imo you really need to know how to do Melty Blood's land-low vs airdash-high mixup to get the most out of her. An upside is that she's half-moon, so you get some newbie-friendly tools like auto-heat, auto-shield-counter, and a great "bunker" (basically an alpha counter).
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 05:05:02
July 11 2010 16:57 GMT
#5309
On July 11 2010 14:31 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2010 14:06 blabber wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl2D5s2dpw4


thanks for video. hella crazy

quick who's easier full miyako or crescent ciel in MBAA anyone lol?

Doren wins with F-Miyako.

Says it all imo.

edit: Charlie, your videos are always amazing. keep it up pls.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 18:20:21
July 11 2010 17:46 GMT
#5310
Here are my posts about MBAA:

Game Mechanics
Offense, Pressure, and Mixups
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 18:56:32
July 11 2010 18:55 GMT
#5311
On July 11 2010 03:47 broz0rs wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16lsJREj9vY

best hyper move ever

confused by this

edit- OH he grabbed his life bar
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
July 12 2010 20:44 GMT
#5312
On July 12 2010 02:46 Bill307 wrote:
Here are my posts about MBAA:

Game Mechanics
Offense, Pressure, and Mixups


now that evo is over and im back from class (wow waking up for that was hard lol) ill actually get a chance to read this
doubt it'll come in handy when i play it for the first time this weekend lolllll
Forever Young
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
July 12 2010 21:17 GMT
#5313
http://shoryuken.com/f2/fantasy-strike-new-fighting-game-david-sirlin-243520/

Behold. The new era of american DONJON ENGINE
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 12 2010 21:20 GMT
#5314
On July 13 2010 05:44 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2010 02:46 Bill307 wrote:
Here are my posts about MBAA:

Game Mechanics
Offense, Pressure, and Mixups


now that evo is over and im back from class (wow waking up for that was hard lol) ill actually get a chance to read this
doubt it'll come in handy when i play it for the first time this weekend lolllll

best way to learn mbaa is to watch a bunch of japanese videos and play as many matchups as possible (against decent people)
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
July 13 2010 01:01 GMT
#5315
yo mcmcmc you know zandwich right go find zand fix his computer please i want him to come back to the internet we miss him
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
July 13 2010 07:30 GMT
#5316
On July 13 2010 06:17 SayaSP wrote:
http://shoryuken.com/f2/fantasy-strike-new-fighting-game-david-sirlin-243520/

Behold. The new era of american DONJON ENGINE

Seems like it got closed, 'cause it's no longer accessible. =/
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 03:47:03
July 14 2010 03:18 GMT
#5317
http://shoryuken.com/f315/ciji-starslay3r-thornton-signs-evil-geniuses-ssf4-243702/
i mean i know eg signed marn but this... this is a new low


edit: yo nvm http://i.imgur.com/9VygN.png
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
July 14 2010 06:51 GMT
#5318
On July 13 2010 16:30 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2010 06:17 SayaSP wrote:
http://shoryuken.com/f2/fantasy-strike-new-fighting-game-david-sirlin-243520/

Behold. The new era of american DONJON ENGINE

Seems like it got closed, 'cause it's no longer accessible. =/

didnt miss much, it was only the best fighting game ever
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 08:13:52
July 14 2010 08:13 GMT
#5319
ROFL STARSLAY3R GOT SIGNED BY EG HAHAHA

edit: oops ok still thx 4 da laff
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
July 14 2010 08:28 GMT
#5320
Haha, Deadpool is one of the best fictional characters of all time. That fact is undeniable.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
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