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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
May 16 2009 19:04 GMT
#3681
MCMcEmcee is FRAYYYYYYYYYYYY
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
May 16 2009 21:24 GMT
#3682
<37



end of first round of v13 vs tager lolol
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
May 16 2009 21:29 GMT
#3683
I just finished watching that before I checked out this thread haha. Teleport into THROW OF DEATH
Contact me via the following: Twitter: @notginseng | Discord: Ginseng#9638
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
May 16 2009 22:47 GMT
#3684

ken's stage is THE TOP TIRES
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
May 16 2009 22:55 GMT
#3685
That Cammy is way too good
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
May 17 2009 02:42 GMT
#3686


tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger
man new sagat sucks
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 03:03:41
May 17 2009 03:01 GMT
#3687
yo im watching these dsp videos of him playing on LIVE at the G2 level. so fuckin funny with his gamer rage lol

edit: also something i noticed that has been bothering me. iunno how the people he's facing have so much points with their level of gameplay. most of the people hes been facing have like 6k+ points yet its all flowchart-esque tactics.
Forever Young
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
May 17 2009 03:26 GMT
#3688
On May 17 2009 12:01 sung_moon wrote:
yo im watching these dsp videos of him playing on LIVE at the G2 level. so fuckin funny with his gamer rage lol

edit: also something i noticed that has been bothering me. iunno how the people he's facing have so much points with their level of gameplay. most of the people hes been facing have like 6k+ points yet its all flowchart-esque tactics.

because sf4 online is stupid and you can't use it to learn
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
May 17 2009 04:36 GMT
#3689
On May 17 2009 12:26 anotak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 12:01 sung_moon wrote:
yo im watching these dsp videos of him playing on LIVE at the G2 level. so fuckin funny with his gamer rage lol

edit: also something i noticed that has been bothering me. iunno how the people he's facing have so much points with their level of gameplay. most of the people hes been facing have like 6k+ points yet its all flowchart-esque tactics.

because sf4 online is stupid and you can't use it to learn

You are so butthurt from that time your dreams were shattered when you learnt that GGPO was not paradise.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 05:24:03
May 17 2009 05:12 GMT
#3690
edit: nevermind
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 06:11:57
May 17 2009 06:09 GMT
#3691
On May 17 2009 12:26 anotak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 12:01 sung_moon wrote:
yo im watching these dsp videos of him playing on LIVE at the G2 level. so fuckin funny with his gamer rage lol

edit: also something i noticed that has been bothering me. iunno how the people he's facing have so much points with their level of gameplay. most of the people hes been facing have like 6k+ points yet its all flowchart-esque tactics.

because sf4 online is stupid and you can't use it to learn

Lies. SF4 championship mode taught me how to deal with anti-air Focus Attacks. (Namely, jump-in throw.) Seriously.

Ranked matches are still dumb imo, but the new championship mode is really good.


In other news, I made an AH2 combo video for Dorothy:



Most useful parts imo are the ambiguous crossups that I demonstrate, not the actual combos. I actually learned most of those crossups while making this vid.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 10:42:12
May 17 2009 10:34 GMT
#3692
Playing SF4 online isnt ideal, but its very far from useless. Playing someone instate is not bad, and even vs sung_moon who lives 1/3 the country away, the delay is hardly noticeable. Yea, its there. Oh well. I benefit a ton from online play as most my old buddies are an hour away. People cant always play live or just dont feel like driving some days for a 3 person get together.

That combo video seemed more like a set ups / mixups video like the tricks of the trade ones for marvel than actual combos. Interesting stuff though, I didnt know ah had unblockables O.O


Anyway, heres the real meat of the post. I placed 3rd in the local (pretty much the state level) tournament last friday. Not amazing, but all of top 8 matches were recorded, so I get to show some tourney play! Any criticism is welcome.


(Hey 3mc, remember when I asked for help with sagat vs blanka? THANK YOU! )


This guy is pretty well known as a Rogue player in marvel last I heard, but he quit marvel for 4 (and his own blood pressure).


Only 2 of my matches are up so far, I really want you guys help for what to do vs the ryu who zoned me out, but those videos havent been uploaded

And as a treat, the finals reaction (me + gf are in it at the very end. I'm the white guy with black t shirt + black hair, she's... like the only girl in the video )
You may want to lower your volume beforehand.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
May 17 2009 11:36 GMT
#3693
vegita-x played rouge/storm/tron. he was damn good with it too

props for beating him :o
the courage to be a lazy bum
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 17:07:25
May 17 2009 12:05 GMT
#3694
agshdj
Hacksaw11
Profile Joined July 2008
Australia359 Posts
May 17 2009 12:15 GMT
#3695
even a jab can punish it? O_o
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Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 12:42:22
May 17 2009 12:37 GMT
#3696
Wow... Thanks!

Although you did go more into length about how the geif could have killed me than what I can do to counter that stuff hahaha.

I know better than to use the ultra randomly like that. Bad instinct I guess. Same reason I do cr mp -> tu -> fadc ultra instead of just ultra off of focus crumbles. I went with whatever my muscle memory picked at that specific moment without questioning it x.x

Edit: Now that I think about it, I had done an anti air ultra earlier in the tournament successfully, that's probably why I tried it. Don't know if that one was caught on tape though, hopefully it was so I don't seem completely retarded. I mean, I admitted to playing online a lot and threw out a random ultra in both videos, so it looks bad I know xD

Lots of good info though, much appreciated. Gonna test out the blanka punish later.

I'll probably copy paste all this info to the geif, seems like he didnt know any of it :O

There is a reason I do f.hk so much though! When an opponent is crouching (or most standing characters) it whiffs, most people try to punish with a poke or something. So I do whiff f.hk -> TU as a little trap and it works wonders. After I did it to that geif once, he just kept blocking after f.hks, and thats why I could throw them out so much without too much worry.

Seriously though, great info. Thanks!
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
May 17 2009 12:54 GMT
#3697
On May 17 2009 21:05 anotak wrote:
this is the matchup i know the best because i have the luxury of having one of the better zangiefs in the country in my local scene...


What makes you say he's one of the better Zangiefs in the country?
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 17 2009 13:08 GMT
#3698
congrats trumpet. beefy sagat. whiff f.RH TU fadc gets me all the time too
Forever Young
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 17:07:40
May 17 2009 13:13 GMT
#3699
gsdffhsd
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 18:21:35
May 17 2009 18:20 GMT
#3700
Trumpet: I don't know whether to cheer for you in these vids as a TLnetter, or to cheer against you as a Sagat player.

Btw anti-air ultra works, but you have to start your ultra early because ultras have so much start-up. It's very hard to do it fast enough on reaction unless you buffer a QCF beforehand. E.g. if I anticipate a jump-in and want to anti-air ultra, I'll randomly do QCF or QCFx2 motions while my opponent is standing on the ground, so that if they jump I can react to it and pull out my ultra fast enough.

On the other hand, since you're Sagat, you'd have to make sure you don't do the ultra too early or else you'll fly under them. Besides, it's easier and safer to just anti-air them with an uppercut or f.hk and combo into the ultra, if possible. There's almost no reason for Sagat to use a raw ultra as anti-air, imo.
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