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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
March 17 2009 05:57 GMT
#2841
On March 17 2009 08:20 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2009 07:54 SayaSP wrote:
(18:12:57) (@sibladeko) (06:09:21 PM) nyczdominiking: SF4 Justin -vs- Mike Ross was hype as hell too
(18:12:57) (@sibladeko) (06:09:36 PM) nyczdominiking: Justin taunted with Rufus, the one where he sits down and wipes his forehead
(18:12:57) (@sibladeko) (06:11:47 PM) nyczdominiking: then when he won the first game he stood up and looked at Mike Ross and said "WHATS UP MIKE?! THATS IT?!"


videos PLEASE lol



i love the ken one near the end


Wow I know what to go for ;p
Nak Allstar.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
March 17 2009 07:03 GMT
#2842
By the way, anyone who's not following "Street Fighter 4 Help" and has never heard of The Johnsons before will probably want to read this.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89518&currentpage=5#96
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 07:55:24
March 17 2009 07:55 GMT
#2843
Anyone else have trouble in Cps3 Emulator when doing kara stuff with akuma (only guy I tried).
I cannot kara-anything for the life of me.
Kara Throw, Kara UOH, Kara Demon, none of it works. I dunno if it's the keyboard or what.

I made a short thread here and didn't get much help http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=6215700#post6215700

PS- Do I have to kara on the first 1-4 frames or what?
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..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 17 2009 08:08 GMT
#2844
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=6250357&postcount=12
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
March 17 2009 09:21 GMT
#2845
they're a strict timing and you probably just can't do them
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
March 17 2009 09:23 GMT
#2846
probably aren't fast enough
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
March 17 2009 10:02 GMT
#2847
On March 17 2009 16:55 CharlieMurphy wrote:
keyboard

that's your problem right there
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 12:23:45
March 17 2009 12:22 GMT
#2848
For a little more specific advice on what could be going wrong, I know that when I originally hooked up a controller to usb on my pc, it would only check for inputs once every 3-5 frames or so, leading to a lot of missed motions (even basic things like fireballs). Upping the usb polling rate (I found some tutorial on how to do it by counter strike players) fixed all my problems though

It's more likely that you're just not able to do it on a keyboard, I can't see keyboard buttons presses being practically timed to such accuracy the way kara demons would require.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 17 2009 12:46 GMT
#2849
On March 17 2009 21:22 Trumpet wrote:
For a little more specific advice on what could be going wrong, I know that when I originally hooked up a controller to usb on my pc, it would only check for inputs once every 3-5 frames or so, leading to a lot of missed motions (even basic things like fireballs). Upping the usb polling rate (I found some tutorial on how to do it by counter strike players) fixed all my problems though

It's more likely that you're just not able to do it on a keyboard, I can't see keyboard buttons presses being practically timed to such accuracy the way kara demons would require.


that's strange man, cause standard usb poll rate is 125 Hz, so it checks 125 times in a second, while there are 60 frames in a second, so it should've checked twice for every frame
And all is illuminated.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 12:57:13
March 17 2009 12:52 GMT
#2850
maybe trumpet is on to something. I can easily wakeup-RD or c/sRH-RD
I have noticed that often when I srk a hadou comes out or vise versa (or sometimes just a punch). Or any move for that matter actually, sometimes it just doesn't come out.

I use keyboard for PPP , KKK and dpad on controller.

On March 17 2009 17:08 SayaSP wrote:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=6250357&postcount=12


I know the moves work, i've seen them done. This is the post that made me post here. It's very vague.
like for example, kara-UOH is just forward and mk+mp and it just doesn't work but it can't be the keyboard because in order to do UOH i need 2 keypresses, and since im using dpad for the 3rd press it shouldn't effect it right?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 16:17:08
March 17 2009 16:08 GMT
#2851
Raging Demon input window is a hell of a lot bigger than kara-throw input window, AND requires no simultaneous button presses. It pretty much has no bearing on whether or not you can kara-throw with your input device.

If you have a pad, map buttons to the pad so you don't have to deal with keyboard input limit crap. If you're not on a USB keyboard then USB refresh/polling rate has nothing to do with your inability to kara-throw; even if you are using a USB keyboard, keyboard input reading limit and the fact that keys just aren't very good arcade button substitutes are far more relevant concerns.

And even then... it's doable. I just did booted up FBA and did it like 5 times in a row on keyboard (Akuma kara-throw, that is). So the issue is probably a combination of you not having the timing down and keyboard being a generally bad way to play fighting games.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 18:17:16
March 17 2009 18:06 GMT
#2852
I just tried it on keyboard and could not do the kara-throw, with button config punches ASD, kicks ZXC. The problem was keyboard input limit, as when I changed R -> LP and Y -> LK I was able to do it fine. (I tested mapping A -> MP, S -> LP, X -> LK and that wouldn't work either.) Just map the buttons far away just to check if it's the keyboard input reading that's the issue.


On a side note...I forget the site(s) that lets you watch nicovideo if you don't have an account, but this is the self-styled "keyboard master" (that's his tag on GGPO...I think people are saying it's TKO, the Vampire Hunter champ)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6100982

edit: oh yeah of course, different vid:
+ Show Spoiler [Furious Keys] +

Didn't somebody win a MB tourney on keyboard sometime? Play on whatever you want, but don't complain if stuff doesn't work or is hard, I guess.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 17 2009 19:40 GMT
#2853
Yeah I think that Melty thing was at one of the BBGs or something lolol PHILLY
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 20:14:41
March 17 2009 20:14 GMT
#2854
lol what is this shit

I am doing Baiken combos on keyboard like
5S 2D 236K FRC iad j.D land 6HS 2D superjump sj.S sj.D airdash sj.S sj.D

and this guy shows shows how to do yoga flame.. lol
And all is illuminated.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 17 2009 20:41 GMT
#2855
So pro
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 17 2009 20:41 GMT
#2856
Both of you
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 17 2009 21:01 GMT
#2857

at the moment i cant brag about anything else
And all is illuminated.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 22:33:17
March 17 2009 21:33 GMT
#2858
On March 18 2009 01:08 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Raging Demon input window is a hell of a lot bigger than kara-throw input window, AND requires no simultaneous button presses. It pretty much has no bearing on whether or not you can kara-throw with your input device.

If you have a pad, map buttons to the pad so you don't have to deal with keyboard input limit crap. If you're not on a USB keyboard then USB refresh/polling rate has nothing to do with your inability to kara-throw; even if you are using a USB keyboard, keyboard input reading limit and the fact that keys just aren't very good arcade button substitutes are far more relevant concerns.

And even then... it's doable. I just did booted up FBA and did it like 5 times in a row on keyboard (Akuma kara-throw, that is). So the issue is probably a combination of you not having the timing down and keyboard being a generally bad way to play fighting games.

yea, I forgot to mention that I mapped forward mp+mk all to 1 button and I still couldn't kara UOH or kara throw either.

I seriously tried for like a half hour to kara anything and you would think I could accidentally do it at least once but no. I'm on a ps2 keyboard.

Is there a way I can slow down the emulation and can someone tell me the perfect frame timing to do all the kara stuff so I can test.


edit- ok yea im testing it here at work with straight keyboard and i can kara uoh easily T_T
does akuma make the Zugai Hasatsu hmm-hmmpf sound when you do kara throw too?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
March 17 2009 22:37 GMT
#2859
On March 17 2009 21:46 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2009 21:22 Trumpet wrote:
For a little more specific advice on what could be going wrong, I know that when I originally hooked up a controller to usb on my pc, it would only check for inputs once every 3-5 frames or so, leading to a lot of missed motions (even basic things like fireballs). Upping the usb polling rate (I found some tutorial on how to do it by counter strike players) fixed all my problems though

It's more likely that you're just not able to do it on a keyboard, I can't see keyboard buttons presses being practically timed to such accuracy the way kara demons would require.


that's strange man, cause standard usb poll rate is 125 Hz, so it checks 125 times in a second, while there are 60 frames in a second, so it should've checked twice for every frame


The math is there for you to be right, it may have had something to do with going through an adapter that changed things. Maybe? I really don't know the technical side of it, I know the caveman logic it didn't work before, I pushed some usb polling rate buttons, and I go from unable to fireball to can genei jin again. :D

That shit is actually what kept me off of GGPO for the longest time, and as soon as it was resolved, I fell the fuck in love with GGPO lol. As such, I recommend it as a possible fix for anyone having problems
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 17 2009 22:49 GMT
#2860
Yeah charlie he makes the noise and you freakin like... move forward lol
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
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