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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
December 19 2009 17:50 GMT
#13661
Magebane with new Hack 'n Slash is fucking retarded T_T
I'm so pissed off right now, fcking imba stuff.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 19 2009 21:28 GMT
#13662
I should really learn all the heros all i'm thinking is Magebane??? hes the umm antimage equivalent i think...and i can't even check cuz
http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/heroes.php
brings up a blank hero listing page lol
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
December 19 2009 21:57 GMT
#13663
I hate stupid EM players that play on noem games and they only ks you or feed the other players (just played with SW and everytime I got a kill a thunderbringer soloer used his ult to KS me).
His final score 5-10-0 and all of those 5 kills = KS.

They need to put something that doesnt let EM players join noem games (like no leavers.. no em players).
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17261 Posts
December 19 2009 23:40 GMT
#13664
On December 20 2009 06:57 FranzF1 wrote:
I hate stupid EM players that play on noem games and they only ks you or feed the other players (just played with SW and everytime I got a kill a thunderbringer soloer used his ult to KS me).
His final score 5-10-0 and all of those 5 kills = KS.

They need to put something that doesnt let EM players join noem games (like no leavers.. no em players).


Just today I played a game where I was Arachna and tried to carry my team through early/mid game until our wraith would kick in... Unfortunately after my initial ganking and overall good performance our team started to lose a bit since enemy team had more heavy-hitters and I was unable to keep any of them at bay since whenever I webbed/ulted a half-hp FA for example our WS would wait until she had 50hp and ult her... When I asked him why was he stealing this kill he said he needed to keep up his KDR (not to mention he was saying during the game how -em games are so much better). It wouldn't be half that bad as he didn't manage to steal much since he was dead most of the time, unfortunately we also had a Pyromancer who thought that KDR is the only indication of one's skill and thus proceeded to steal anything he could (getting quad-kills near the end of the game after the entire team has commited, we lost 2 guys and only then he started using his skills).

I feel you man
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
December 20 2009 02:40 GMT
#13665
is EM like fastest? coz i play alot of em... lul woops
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
December 20 2009 02:47 GMT
#13666
On December 20 2009 11:40 ulszz wrote:
is EM like fastest? coz i play alot of em... lul woops


Yeah -em players are like fastest/bgh players. Basically everyone picks a carry and sucks. You'll never see anyone buy a courier or wards. Everyone plays selfishly pretty much. I'd stick with non-em if you want to improve tbh.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 20 2009 03:17 GMT
#13667
there are no real reproductions in EM mode you can die 10 times and still be rich enough to buy w.e you want. too much free money so everyone plays carry and goes for late game.
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 06:38:26
December 20 2009 03:52 GMT
#13668
On December 20 2009 08:40 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 06:57 FranzF1 wrote:
I hate stupid EM players that play on noem games and they only ks you or feed the other players (just played with SW and everytime I got a kill a thunderbringer soloer used his ult to KS me).
His final score 5-10-0 and all of those 5 kills = KS.

They need to put something that doesnt let EM players join noem games (like no leavers.. no em players).


Just today I played a game where I was Arachna and tried to carry my team through early/mid game until our wraith would kick in... Unfortunately after my initial ganking and overall good performance our team started to lose a bit since enemy team had more heavy-hitters and I was unable to keep any of them at bay since whenever I webbed/ulted a half-hp FA for example our WS would wait until she had 50hp and ult her... When I asked him why was he stealing this kill he said he needed to keep up his KDR (not to mention he was saying during the game how -em games are so much better). It wouldn't be half that bad as he didn't manage to steal much since he was dead most of the time, unfortunately we also had a Pyromancer who thought that KDR is the only indication of one's skill and thus proceeded to steal anything he could (getting quad-kills near the end of the game after the entire team has commited, we lost 2 guys and only then he started using his skills).

I feel you man


That's not really indicative of EM, to be honest. Are you saying that people in non-EM don't KS?
It's indicative of people being assholes; they exist whether you play EM or not.

As for the EM vs non-EM argument, from someone who plays both and actually has a higher KDR in non-EM:

Yes, the fastest/bgh vs. melee SC analogy works pretty well. Tournaments are all in non-EM, so if you want to play somewhat competitively non-EM is what you want to look for

But just as fastest vs. melee goes, if all you're planning for is fun, there's nothing wrong with playing EM. It simply requires a different skill set: EM requires a lot of heroes to be played differently, and item builds are a lot more important, since skills tend to play a lesser role due to the fast leveling/item farming which renders things such as Pyro's Phoenix Wave ineffective much earlier. I play EM sometimes simply because I think it's much more fast-paced.

I disagree with the comment above me saying that you can die ten times with no repercussions. Actually, it may be even worse in EM because the other team can get items faster than they typically would in non-EM. And, if they are all carries, that makes even less sense: you're feeding their carries, while at the same time, your own carry isn't being fed/isn't farming. It's also a lot more punishing, faster: I have played far more EM games that concede at 15 minutes than non-EM games that do the same.

Still, I think that non-EM is the way to go. There is far more strategic sense, tactics, map control, and the skill is required is much greater. But hey, that's why EM is called Easy Mode after all.

EDIT: Ah. I stand corrected.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 20 2009 06:26 GMT
#13669
On December 20 2009 12:52 DarkOptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 08:40 Manit0u wrote:
On December 20 2009 06:57 FranzF1 wrote:
I hate stupid EM players that play on noem games and they only ks you or feed the other players (just played with SW and everytime I got a kill a thunderbringer soloer used his ult to KS me).
His final score 5-10-0 and all of those 5 kills = KS.

They need to put something that doesnt let EM players join noem games (like no leavers.. no em players).


Just today I played a game where I was Arachna and tried to carry my team through early/mid game until our wraith would kick in... Unfortunately after my initial ganking and overall good performance our team started to lose a bit since enemy team had more heavy-hitters and I was unable to keep any of them at bay since whenever I webbed/ulted a half-hp FA for example our WS would wait until she had 50hp and ult her... When I asked him why was he stealing this kill he said he needed to keep up his KDR (not to mention he was saying during the game how -em games are so much better). It wouldn't be half that bad as he didn't manage to steal much since he was dead most of the time, unfortunately we also had a Pyromancer who thought that KDR is the only indication of one's skill and thus proceeded to steal anything he could (getting quad-kills near the end of the game after the entire team has commited, we lost 2 guys and only then he started using his skills).

I feel you man


That's not really indicative of EM, to be honest. Are you saying that people in non-EM don't KS?
It's indicative of people being assholes; they exist whether you play EM or not.

As for the EM vs non-EM argument, from someone who plays both and actually has a higher KDR in non-EM:

Yes, the fastest/bgh vs. melee SC analogy works pretty well. Tournaments are all in non-EM, so if you want to play somewhat competitively non-EM is what you want to look for

But just as fastest vs. melee goes, if all you're planning for is fun, there's nothing wrong with playing EM. It simply requires a different skill set: EM requires a lot of heroes to be played differently, and item builds are a lot more important, since skills tend to play a lesser role due to the fast leveling/item farming which renders things such as Pyro's Phoenix Wave ineffective much earlier. I play EM sometimes simply because I think it's much more fast-paced.

I disagree with the comment above me saying that you can die ten times with no repercussions. Actually, it may be even worse in EM because the other team can get items faster than they typically would in non-EM. And, if they are all carries, that makes even less sense: you're feeding their carries, while at the same time, your own carry isn't being fed/isn't farming. It's also a lot more punishing, faster: I have played far more EM games that concede at 15 minutes than non-EM games that do the same.

Still, I think that non-EM is the way to go. There is far more strategic sense, tactics, map control, and the skill is required is much greater. But hey, that's why EM is called Easy Mode after all.


Actually, EM is called easy mode because it used to be called shortmode, but people in pubs farmed and refused to push just like in normal pubs, so they renamed it.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
December 20 2009 06:59 GMT
#13670
On December 20 2009 15:26 L wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 20 2009 12:52 DarkOptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 08:40 Manit0u wrote:
On December 20 2009 06:57 FranzF1 wrote:
I hate stupid EM players that play on noem games and they only ks you or feed the other players (just played with SW and everytime I got a kill a thunderbringer soloer used his ult to KS me).
His final score 5-10-0 and all of those 5 kills = KS.

They need to put something that doesnt let EM players join noem games (like no leavers.. no em players).


Just today I played a game where I was Arachna and tried to carry my team through early/mid game until our wraith would kick in... Unfortunately after my initial ganking and overall good performance our team started to lose a bit since enemy team had more heavy-hitters and I was unable to keep any of them at bay since whenever I webbed/ulted a half-hp FA for example our WS would wait until she had 50hp and ult her... When I asked him why was he stealing this kill he said he needed to keep up his KDR (not to mention he was saying during the game how -em games are so much better). It wouldn't be half that bad as he didn't manage to steal much since he was dead most of the time, unfortunately we also had a Pyromancer who thought that KDR is the only indication of one's skill and thus proceeded to steal anything he could (getting quad-kills near the end of the game after the entire team has commited, we lost 2 guys and only then he started using his skills).

I feel you man


That's not really indicative of EM, to be honest. Are you saying that people in non-EM don't KS?
It's indicative of people being assholes; they exist whether you play EM or not.

As for the EM vs non-EM argument, from someone who plays both and actually has a higher KDR in non-EM:

Yes, the fastest/bgh vs. melee SC analogy works pretty well. Tournaments are all in non-EM, so if you want to play somewhat competitively non-EM is what you want to look for

But just as fastest vs. melee goes, if all you're planning for is fun, there's nothing wrong with playing EM. It simply requires a different skill set: EM requires a lot of heroes to be played differently, and item builds are a lot more important, since skills tend to play a lesser role due to the fast leveling/item farming which renders things such as Pyro's Phoenix Wave ineffective much earlier. I play EM sometimes simply because I think it's much more fast-paced.

I disagree with the comment above me saying that you can die ten times with no repercussions. Actually, it may be even worse in EM because the other team can get items faster than they typically would in non-EM. And, if they are all carries, that makes even less sense: you're feeding their carries, while at the same time, your own carry isn't being fed/isn't farming. It's also a lot more punishing, faster: I have played far more EM games that concede at 15 minutes than non-EM games that do the same.

Still, I think that non-EM is the way to go. There is far more strategic sense, tactics, map control, and the skill is required is much greater. But hey, that's why EM is called Easy Mode after all.


Actually, EM is called easy mode because it used to be called shortmode, but people in pubs farmed and refused to push just like in normal pubs, so they renamed it.


I have this thing where I don't like to push unless I'm almost sure we'll rape them (like 1 death vs genocide).

It's like my TvT style of starving them -_-

Bad habit though... waste so much time.
Stuck.
[TYG]Transcend
Profile Joined March 2008
679 Posts
December 20 2009 20:17 GMT
#13671
+1 ENFOS

hi bye

go on garena more faggots

eff u

<3 some of you
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 20 2009 21:47 GMT
#13672
Obv i am loved.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
December 21 2009 02:14 GMT
#13673
On December 20 2009 12:17 Virtue wrote:
there are no real reproductions in EM mode you can die 10 times and still be rich enough to buy w.e you want. too much free money so everyone plays carry and goes for late game.


lol@ "reproductions"
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
December 21 2009 02:25 GMT
#13674
On December 21 2009 11:14 RANDOMCL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 12:17 Virtue wrote:
there are no real reproductions in EM mode you can die 10 times and still be rich enough to buy w.e you want. too much free money so everyone plays carry and goes for late game.


lol@ "reproductions"


Ha, just noticed that too.

I AM HAPPY (on a totally different matter)
Stuck.
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
December 21 2009 02:26 GMT
#13675
the worst is jereziah's who use heal to KS
or scout and nighthounds who sit around and wait for the last hit..pretty annoying when suddenly you realize that everyone on your team isn't attacking and is just waiting for the last hit...or thunderbringers who ult
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17261 Posts
December 21 2009 02:46 GMT
#13676
On December 20 2009 02:50 Crucifix wrote:
Magebane with new Hack 'n Slash is fucking retarded T_T
I'm so pissed off right now, fcking imba stuff.


Wanna see retarded?

[image loading]

Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 21 2009 04:17 GMT
#13677
Lol at all these complaints, congratulations now HoN is officially DotA.
Get it by your hands...
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
December 21 2009 04:41 GMT
#13678
Does armor go into the negatives?
Stuck.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
December 21 2009 07:06 GMT
#13679
now i know how testie felt when i picked sf for him against slardar in that cd.

except worse.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
December 21 2009 08:13 GMT
#13680
On December 21 2009 13:41 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Does armor go into the negatives?


In DotA, yessssss
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