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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
December 18 2009 22:11 GMT
#13641
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 18 2009 22:14 GMT
#13642
you aren't king! no one voted for you!
@QxGDarkCell ._.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
December 18 2009 22:15 GMT
#13643
TOO LATE MR DARKCELL

+ Show Spoiler +
ze
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 22:17:05
December 18 2009 22:16 GMT
#13644
Deadwood:
- Rotten Grasp now triggers after 1.5 seconds (down from 2.5. Was bugged and doing an extra .5 seconds)
- Rotten Grasp now reduces the armor of anyone caught in it by 2,3,4,5
- Uproot no longer has a cast time, letting you grab and run
- Clearcutting now lasts for 12,14,16,18 seconds

Was that necessary? Dude was OK now it looks like he will give Vengeful a run for his money as the premier Ganker. If he uproots you consider yourself dead. -5 armor and -32 str from his ult. Both of which are AoE. Dead sure is scary now.

Puppet Master
- Base strength lowered to 19 (from 20)
- Strength gain lowered to 1.9 (from 2.1)
- Damage dealt via Voodoo Puppet will no longer pass through Magic Immunity


Why? Just... Why!? That is one of the hardest nerfs any of the heroes have taken. So... is Testie going back to DotA now? Will this open up the possibility of Vindicator being played more in competitive games? Puppet was the default pseudo-disabler ranged DPS but that nerf kind of puts him in the same place as Vindicator, or will both will be ignored from now on?
Part Time Ninja
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
December 18 2009 22:19 GMT
#13645
Those nerf WERE needed, especially the Archer one :}
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
December 18 2009 23:08 GMT
#13646
wildsoul is now even cooler because of the new hack and slash
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17776 Posts
December 18 2009 23:08 GMT
#13647
The nerf on PM puppet was needed. 2-hit killing people mid/late game was a bit too strong as it was (he pretty much raped anything with harkon's or whatever the name of the item which changes your dmg to magic was).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
December 19 2009 00:16 GMT
#13648
Fuck HoN!
Moderator<:3-/-<
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
December 19 2009 00:54 GMT
#13649
Manit0u? I never seen Puppet Master with a Harkon's Blade T_T
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 19 2009 02:34 GMT
#13650
wow fa got raped this patch
lol
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Kenny
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States678 Posts
December 19 2009 03:18 GMT
#13651
Not sure if you guys have seen this yet, but I was just watching some random HoN youtube videos, and I found this video

http://www.youtube.com/user/honleague?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/1/BdEGiOD8dcU

at 2:36 they actually mention tasteless and the panda bear guy haha. Thought it was cool. Not sure if the guys making this are involved in the SC community big time, but still pretty neat.
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
December 19 2009 03:25 GMT
#13652
thats a pretty terrible video kenny
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 19 2009 03:29 GMT
#13653
Mojo/maledict build even more beast now.

Hack and slash potentially not terrible anymore.

Whoa.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Kenny
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States678 Posts
December 19 2009 03:40 GMT
#13654
On December 19 2009 12:25 radmax86 wrote:
thats a pretty terrible video kenny


Haha yea the video itself is terrible, but cool they had tasteless in it
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
December 19 2009 03:47 GMT
#13655
I tried frostburn (the new hacknslash) on tDL today, and it was nice. Thunderclaw is probably still better as a burst-DPS/farming item, but frostburn isn't half bad especially if your team lacks coordination with their stuns. Bfury first, natch.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 19 2009 04:44 GMT
#13656
On December 19 2009 12:29 L wrote:
Mojo/maledict build even more beast now.

Hack and slash potentially not terrible anymore.

Whoa.



im still amazed at how so many people dont go mojo/male early game. It gives you so much flexibility with babysitting and its offensive power/pushing early power is just too strong to pass up. By just going stun/male, you really limit yourself to a one trick pony with stun/male/ult.

With the L1 stun L4 mojo L4 male at level 9, you hit your L1/2 ult at 10/11, and you really are a powerhouse at level 7 and further, even with very little assistance from other heroes, you can just take out anyone from full life easily.
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 19 2009 05:45 GMT
#13657
i heard someone sexy posted in the thread so i came to check

as expected, it was alv!
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17776 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-19 12:23:05
December 19 2009 12:21 GMT
#13658
On December 19 2009 09:54 Crucifix wrote:
Manit0u? I never seen Puppet Master with a Harkon's Blade T_T


I did. The guy had steamboots + hellflower + harkon. It was not funny at all since with his ult he 2-shot anyone If he gets his +180% (not sure how much his ult gives at lvl3) dmg and it all goes through regardless of your armour/magic resistance it's just sick.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
December 19 2009 17:22 GMT
#13659
how do you build arachna?

i'm caught in kind of a dilemma as to which core item to build first...

shieldbreaker for synergy with ult?
savage mace to stop tps?
geometers bane?
maybe even HotBL first?
and when should you get lifesteal?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17776 Posts
December 19 2009 17:49 GMT
#13660
On December 20 2009 02:22 hideo wrote:
how do you build arachna?

i'm caught in kind of a dilemma as to which core item to build first...

shieldbreaker for synergy with ult?
savage mace to stop tps?
geometers bane?
maybe even HotBL first?
and when should you get lifesteal?


Helm of the Black Legion, then proceed with Nullifier Blade/Charged Hammer and Geometer's Bane. Add shards/lifesteal at your leisure.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
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