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On February 20 2008 02:22 Ack1027 wrote:FocusIRE jungled luna recently and he went the following: Glaives, aura, glaives, stats, stats/glaives[not sure here], ult. Do not question FocusIRE. Edit: http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=203784It's a pure farm game which ends up being Luna and SF vs EMG's TB but FocusIRE is just amazing with every hero he plays. Edit2: Nobody cares but imo LightOfHeaven and Focusire >>>> Vigoss, NS, Loda, Maelk Thanks for posting the replay link.
Can someone explain to me why there are bans? Does each team get to ban a certain number of heroes for the other team?
Edit: I just watched the replay. Holy. Shit.
I thought I farmed fast with Luna. Wow.
At 30 minutes, she had 3 wraiths, travels, dominator, and was over halfway to an eaglehorn. That's why she's banned in my IHs with RL friends.
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No shit. Every time you turn it on, or off, or click anything, it just stops working.
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On February 20 2008 11:07 rpf wrote: No shit. Every time you turn it on, or off, or click anything, it just stops working.
the funny thing is when it stops working (i.e. you get disconnected) you get NO notice about it yet when someone does something as miniscule as message u or add u to flist you get alttabed out of ur game, lagged to hell and probably die too
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Hm, I thought I had while playing ES:
Is it possible to fit in a perseverance earlier on in the game so that you have the regen earlier in the game for later when you go refresher? Of course you could just buy it earlier, but I wonder if it would be efficient. It's a rather expensive item, and although what you get is definitely good, I wonder if by the time it's completed you'll have enough intelligence to make the regen worthwhile.
I've tried both arcane and bottle on him numerous times, and while the arcane ring is definitely nicer, the bottle is a lot easier to get, so I can't really decide which is better.
I also see people get annoyed if there's more than one ring on a team, so I'm guessing it's a safer bet to aim for a bottle but go ring instead if it isn't going to be gotten by a teammate.
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when i play ES, i go arcane and RoH/dagger
i dono if you've played with adfadfa, but he doesnt get boots till level 21 when he plays ES lol -_-
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On February 20 2008 08:18 Southlight wrote:In terms of raw damage output...
I was only mentioning the pure DPS ones. I don't think those are all particularly great carries. Void can team-kill with enough farming (BFly + Life Steal + Chrono on the biggest threat = basically invincible, add BKB and he can generally obliterate teams) but his lane control is so horrible and he's so easy to stop farming that I don't think it's usually worth it. He's better than some other heroes in that he only needs Life Steal to be useful (Chrono is a whore) but, eh.
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I can't stand playing void early on. But, if you can manage to grab a bfly and a MoM, holy fuck you're scary.
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i dont like void very much , 1 guinsoo and his dead. I find him to be the weakest carry you can pick. Spectre , Luna , Potm are clearly better.
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With BFly, his survivability under Guinsoo is far stronger than the three you listed, especially with the new Dispersion change. And he has essentially the same escape mechanism as PotM's Leap. Luna's the worst offender, she has like, no health gain, unless she gets a Reaver she's rather easily to kill...
I still don't like Void, his early game is so horrible.
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On February 20 2008 09:14 rpf wrote: I completely disagree. Put a good player in a solo lane with silencer or razor, and you will lose. Christ, even I can do really well with razor, and you've all seen me play. I'm not that great, and I'm usually underfarmed by late game. ;;
Most good QoPs have issues against good dual stun lanes, Razor and Silencer <<<< QoP in terms of survivability. Point is, if the lane is aggressive, that solo silencer and razor isn't going to do much provided similar skill.
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On February 21 2008 01:49 Southlight wrote: With BFly, his survivability under Guinsoo is far stronger than the three you listed, especially with the new Dispersion change. And he has essentially the same escape mechanism as PotM's Leap. Luna's the worst offender, she has like, no health gain, unless she gets a Reaver she's rather easily to kill...
I still don't like Void, his early game is so horrible.
Problem is most FV carries in leagues avoid Fly (for good reason) for Buriza+MoM+Midas.
Luna's perk is that Glaives farm hard mid game, avoiding the need for Radiance, which means she can power through her items with just Bands + Stats. And chasing after a hero that has base 320 ms isn't smart especially with ulti up. Like I said before, she jungles, she farms, she accelerates the game into late game as all she needs are 3 items to dangerously effective, BKB, Satanic, Fly. Aura makes up for the damage gap from Fly and the other two pretty much ensures your survivability.
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http://download.yousendit.com/6E113F8441F99A59
A game where I carry early but turn utterly useless later on, because SF isn't a carry hero. Nice game on how you should play SF now I think. Although I'm not sure if you should get dagger or lothars;(
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On February 21 2008 08:22 {ToT}Strafe wrote:http://download.yousendit.com/6E113F8441F99A59A game where I carry early but turn utterly useless later on, because SF isn't a carry hero. Nice game on how you should play SF now I think. Although I'm not sure if you should get dagger or lothars;(
Is that the game you dumped me for? :@
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On February 21 2008 08:22 {ToT}Strafe wrote:http://download.yousendit.com/6E113F8441F99A59A game where I carry early but turn utterly useless later on, because SF isn't a carry hero. Nice game on how you should play SF now I think. Although I'm not sure if you should get dagger or lothars;( Is this the game where every time you'd deny me, my shot was in midair? God, I hate tinker's animation and projectile speed. I played SF earlier. It was a joke how fast and easily I could least hit.
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try playing SF against me rpf I swear you won't deny more than 10
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Lies. 
I just watched that game, and holy shit that was a GG. Nice all-kill by Lich at the end. It's annoying how DotA doesn't announce anything larger than a triple kill, so it announces a triple kill like, three times. 
I was surprised how well you controlled the runes so early on. That chicken definitely helps a lot.
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