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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Glaives, aura, glaives, stats, stats/glaives[not sure here], ult. Do not question FocusIRE. Edit: http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=203784 It's a pure farm game which ends up being Luna and SF vs EMG's TB but FocusIRE is just amazing with every hero he plays. Edit2: Nobody cares but imo LightOfHeaven and Focusire >>>> Vigoss, NS, Loda, Maelk | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 20 2008 01:42 BlueRoyaL wrote: does anyone hate how they changed luna again? - x-;; frekin i would only get aura + stats for a while early game when i laned because she has low health and really low base dmg but now if you want your ult to be useful at all you need to level your nukes again. its RETArDeD No, because health and damage (to a degree) was irrelevant for a hero that jungled and can effectively bitch slap the entire other team with 3 items that can be farmed very easily with Glaives. Dmg and HP has little effect on junglers, only in lanes, which is why almost (if not) every team that used Luna in lane has lost, because the other team sees it and just throws their carry+sp/lock into the lane against it to free farm. Right now the consensus among league players is that TB ~ Luna > FV/Spec for the scary carries, because the latter two are so dependent on the Radiance while the former two are not. Btw, FocusIRE and LightofHeaven are both on Begrip. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Dave[9]
United States2365 Posts
Clinkz Luna Phantom Assassin Faceless Void Stealth Assasin Bloodseeker Enchantress Lightning Revenant Tiny Silencer Juggernaut Storn Spirit Sniper Drow Lycan Nightstalker Uhh fuck, i know there are more. | ||
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zulu_nation8
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
 most agi heroes naturally have really high dps by endgame troll warlord spectre anti-mage bounty VS also obsidian destroyer | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
centaur is your stereotypical tank stun/disable is pretty straightforward to figure out just by looking at spells Lion CM Rhasta Bane ES anything with a guinsoo | ||
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Avius
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Avius
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paper
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
KotL? I just gave him a serious try. This is what I did: - Chicken, two tangos, three branches - Boots, Mek, TP scroll - Necro 1/2/3, BoT - BKB (I accidentally bought an ogre axe so I went BKB more to stop alch's imba stun than anything) - Shiva's - Assault I basically just farmed the entire game, and kept sending waves of shit to their towers. It was ridiculously easy to farm and keep my mana up, although I wish I'd bought a void stone in there somewhere. Even though I had an arcane ring as an ability, I still would eventually go OOM between the Mek, necro, chakra, etc. I don't know, I'm just looking for build criticism. Normally I just go "SJ, what do I buy" but that's pretty dumb.  I figures aura stuff would be good since I have summons already, and by ability to instantly stop a push means I'm going to be great for pushing as well.I was absolutely terrible at killing other heroes, though, although I guess my role never was really to kill others anyhow. I had 347 creep kills before the game ended, and that wasn't even the final score. I forgot to look, but I saved the replay. | ||
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Judicator
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rpf
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1t2t3t4t5taw
Andorra173 Posts
On February 20 2008 06:30 rpf wrote: How can you effectively counter a hero like PA who is farmed? Massive amounts of armor? Or even throwing in a blade mail? Disables are the counter to DPS heros | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 20 2008 06:30 rpf wrote: How can you effectively counter a hero like PA who is farmed? Massive amounts of armor? Or even throwing in a blade mail? Armor and Nuke Her down, your physical attackers should just wipe their supports and disable PA for as long as you can. Blade Mail is really a bad item no matter how you cut it, especially since the release of SG and the buffs to Vanguard. Out of all the melee carries, she is least threatening, namely because her item choices are so damn limited. | ||
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
As opposed to standard league carry heroes like Shadow Fiend (farms fast + lane control), Silencer (one of the strongest lane control heroes) and Void (Chrono + Butterfly = invincivoid, can teamkill by himself with a relatively minimal amount of items, has a built-in escape mechanism and can help ganks from level 6), PA's kinda... useless. In terms of raw damage output, Razor, Silencer, Obsidian Destroyer, PA and Clinkz are probably heads above the others, but of those only Clinkz has an escape mechanism, Silencer has the lane control and team wrecking spell, and OD has the highest DPS. Razor's an SF-esque hero in that it farms retardedly fast. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 20 2008 08:18 Southlight wrote: ...Razor, Silencer, Obsidian Destroyer, PA and Clinkz... SF can semi carry, not a great carry. The ones you listed are not great carries either. Silencer is not a great lane control hero, Clinkz might be back up to his pre-37 days or close to it but time will tell. Razor is....no just no. TB/FV/BB/Cent/Spec/SF/Mag/Luna/Skel/QoP are the common carries right now. Silencer is overrated along with Sand King and Viper right now. Oh and Void can hardly solo a team, its usually the addition of Euls/Guin that really make the team fight unfavorable late game for the other team. | ||
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rpf
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