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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
November 12 2009 09:08 GMT
#12381
On November 12 2009 17:23 Alventenie wrote:
I wish they would port puck over, then my heroes would be complete, except for the missing part of techies, but i know that they will never port him over for the fear of darkcell coming to own everyone =(.

Yeah...
Maliken kind of got the puck skill though.
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 12 2009 18:02 GMT
#12382
where's my dark seerrrrrrrrrrrrrr =[

):
T_T

and i miss a bunch of the strength heroes as well
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-13 06:25:58
November 13 2009 06:24 GMT
#12383
Can anyone explain to me why the CD on home stones are 100 seconds? (and cost mana, 135 gold, and can be stunned out of ). Like why cant the cooldown be 10-30 seconds, it doesn't really make sense to me to have such hefty cost/drawbacks. Plus you gotta hit shop up to pick up more.
It's not like it would be cheap if it was shorter CD. And how big is the CD on tele boots and they don't cost mana do they?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
November 13 2009 06:30 GMT
#12384
On November 13 2009 15:24 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Can anyone explain to me why the CD on home stones are 100 seconds? (and cost mana, 135 gold, and can be stunned out of ). Like why cant the cooldown be 10-30 seconds, it doesn't really make sense to me to have such hefty cost/drawbacks. Plus you gotta hit shop up to pick up more.
It's not like it would be cheap if it was shorter CD. And how big is the CD on tele boots and they don't cost mana do they?

Boots are 60sec cooldown and 75 mana cost.
I guess the long cooldown is to prevent mass teleporting from lane to lane.
I haven't watched pro hon games but in dota teams always have a tp scroll on them going from lane to lane ganking and pushing alot.
Making history not reliving it.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-13 07:32:23
November 13 2009 07:04 GMT
#12385
if you couldnt get stunned out of it, you know how easy it would be to survive ganks? lol. you could pretty much survive anything in 3 seconds with the right moves



SUPER KEWL PAPER DOTA CHANGE: ALL HEROES START WITH A TP AT START OF GAME

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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-13 09:34:11
November 13 2009 09:32 GMT
#12386
all they need to do is not show the exact spot that heroes are tp'ing into cus it's way too easy to just setup your spells for the guy tp'ing in, it's so retarded.

charlie you're not experienced in higher skill games so you may not realize how incredibly powerful TPs already are, those cooldowns/manacost/weaknesses are all necessary, except the one i just mentioned. not to mention that in many high lvl games people will often carry 2 TPs (if their hero makes sense for it, something like pharaoh, but not carries) stacked so rebuying isnt necessary after one's used. and you can buy them at the outposts anyway
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-13 11:16:08
November 13 2009 11:15 GMT
#12387
I understand all the drawbacks except for the cooldown use. It just seems way too long. And even more excessive because of the fact that it already has all those drawbacks.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
November 13 2009 11:27 GMT
#12388
Ok guys, let me interrupt the discussion a bit.

My friend has asked me for help since it appears that at the fantasy convention in my city there will be a 3v3 DotA tournament tomorrow. I have no idea about the competition level (but I doubt there will be many/any people who even played dota before). My team consists of me, Wawer (he used to be very good at WC3 but with little DotA experience) and one more guy whose only experience with DotA is AI maps and he thinks that battlefury is the best item ever on every hero (and 2 battlefuries are even better).
What I need help with (I'm not even sure what mode will be played there but I'm trying to be optimistic and think -ap or -tp) is noob-bashing team setup with 2 heroes that would be fairly easy to use.

I was thinking about SF for myself, Lich for one and can't quite think about 3rd hero that would fit into this. Preferably ranged with AoE or stun (venge?) or some kind of easy tank (leviathan?).

What would you suggest for this 2 modes? (so I need sent only/scourge only/mixed team setup)
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
November 13 2009 11:30 GMT
#12389
On November 13 2009 15:24 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Can anyone explain to me why the CD on home stones are 100 seconds? (and cost mana, 135 gold, and can be stunned out of ). Like why cant the cooldown be 10-30 seconds, it doesn't really make sense to me to have such hefty cost/drawbacks. Plus you gotta hit shop up to pick up more.
It's not like it would be cheap if it was shorter CD. And how big is the CD on tele boots and they don't cost mana do they?


Dude... Have you any idea how many times I wished the cooldown on TPs would be less? Or if they costed less mana?

Just think what do you use it for:
- pushing -> defending
- ganking
- saving yourself
- denying towers
- generally moving fast around the map

They're still too cheap as they're one of the best items you can get.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-13 16:36:03
November 13 2009 16:35 GMT
#12390
Nevermind :D
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
November 13 2009 17:14 GMT
#12391
HI GUYS WHAT'S UP REMEMBER ME?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
November 13 2009 17:34 GMT
#12392
On November 13 2009 20:27 Manit0u wrote:
Ok guys, let me interrupt the discussion a bit.

My friend has asked me for help since it appears that at the fantasy convention in my city there will be a 3v3 DotA tournament tomorrow. I have no idea about the competition level (but I doubt there will be many/any people who even played dota before). My team consists of me, Wawer (he used to be very good at WC3 but with little DotA experience) and one more guy whose only experience with DotA is AI maps and he thinks that battlefury is the best item ever on every hero (and 2 battlefuries are even better).
What I need help with (I'm not even sure what mode will be played there but I'm trying to be optimistic and think -ap or -tp) is noob-bashing team setup with 2 heroes that would be fairly easy to use.

I was thinking about SF for myself, Lich for one and can't quite think about 3rd hero that would fit into this. Preferably ranged with AoE or stun (venge?) or some kind of easy tank (leviathan?).

What would you suggest for this 2 modes? (so I need sent only/scourge only/mixed team setup)

Sven / Lich / Luna
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
bhp255
Profile Joined July 2008
United States600 Posts
November 13 2009 19:50 GMT
#12393
techies, definitely
Following Okazaki's steps to becoming a Fuuko Master
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
November 13 2009 21:03 GMT
#12394
bane elemental
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-13 21:55:33
November 13 2009 21:55 GMT
#12395
On November 14 2009 02:34 Crucifix wrote:
Sven / Lich / Luna


Well, for now we've decided to go with potm/lich/sven (or rhasta).

Will be easier to end games quickly vs noobs.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-13 22:20:32
November 13 2009 22:20 GMT
#12396
Bane is pretty much a must have for 3v3. Sleep 1, grip 1, enfeeble carry.

#1 Kwanro Fan
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 13 2009 22:24 GMT
#12397
techies is a must have for 3v3.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
November 13 2009 22:46 GMT
#12398
get storm obv
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
November 13 2009 23:03 GMT
#12399
rob get online
aka. Samael
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
November 13 2009 23:30 GMT
#12400
if he likes multiple bfuries he should obv go magnus
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